[Rhodes22-list] Illinois Governor Arrested for Corruption

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Wed Dec 10 01:14:58 EST 2008


PS --

Here is something else he actually did say:

“We’re not going to end corruption in Illinois by arrests and 
indictments alone.  What’s going to make the difference is when people 
who are approached to pay-to-play first say no, and second report it.”

I believe he was talking to Mr. Obama, and I don't think this is the 
last we'll hear on this topic.

Bill Effros


Slim,

That's not what he said.

What he said was that Obama is not mentioned "IN THIS INDICTMENT."

That is true.

But, as you know if you follow him, old Fitz likes to amend indictments
as he goes.

"The Press" keeps getting the story totally wrong.  Obama has already
started to dissemble.

The New York Times already has its facts wrong:  "There is nothing in
the criminal complaint unsealed Tuesday to indicate that Mr. Obama knew
anything about plans to seek money and favors in exchange for his Senate
seat; he has never been implicated in any other “pay to play” cases that
have emerged from the long-running investigation of the Blagojevich
administration."

This is wrong on both counts.  Valerie Jarrett is Candidate A in the
indictment.  She was Obama's choice to get his seat.  The Obama camp
refused to pay Blagojevich for the nomination and she dropped out of the
running.  Obama knew Blagojevich was seeking money and favors, he chose
only to not pay -- I'm not sure, but I think he was required to report
the extortion attempt. Fitz doesn't indict on judgment calls like this.
Obama certainly was implicated in other "pay to play" cases involving
the Blagojevich administration.  He came up repeatedly in the Rezko
trial.  The FBI has been following him almost from the day he entered
the Senate.  He was named in a previous indictment.  He was listed as a
potential witness in the Rezko trial.

When Mohammad Ata flipped at the end of the Rezko trial, Fitz no longer
needed Obama on the stand, and didn't call him.

Rezko complained to the judge that Fitz was pressuring him to implicate
Obama.  He refused to do so before the jury verdict.  Now he is cooperating.

Obama is in this up to his ears.  The house was a bribe.  Stuart Levine
described exactly how the bribing was accomplished, as did several
others who testified in the Rezko trial.  Thanks to the Patriot Act, the
FBI was able to follow $20,000 worth of extorted money from the accounts
of people who testified, into Obama's political action committee
accounts.  This is twice the threshold amount for a federal indictment.

Fitz doesn't have all the Obama ducks lined up just yet, so he didn't
indict him just yet.  But he didn't say there is no implication of Obama
whatsoever at this time.  In fact he has said just the opposite.

Bill Effros



Steven Alm wrote:
> I think Fitz is the most intelligent, straight-talking and honest man man in
> the theater.  I believe everything he says.  He is saying there's no
> implication of Obama whatsoever at this time.
>
> Bill, what do you know to the contrary?
>
> Slim
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Jb,
>>
>> Patrick Fitzgerald is relentless.  And patient.
>>
>> He just rolls from one to the next.
>>
>> Ben C. believes Obama has promised he will not replace Fitzgerald until
>> "Operation Board Games" is complete.
>>
>> Blagojevich has been described as a sociopath.
>>
>> Fitzgerald already has the goods on Obama, and he knows it.  But he
>> likes to wait until there is no question he will get convictions.
>>
>> Even though Nixon fired the special prosecutor, he still had to resign
>> in the end.
>>
>> I can't believe Fitzgerald will stop short of the top prize.  The only
>> question in my mind is whether he can get Daley.
>>
>> Obama left fingerprints all over the place.  I don't know of any Daley
>> has left. We are in for interesting times.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>> PS -- Just saw that Blagojevich's co-conspirator in this indictment is a
>> former Daley guy, so the only question for now is who they are going
>> after next.  By all accounts I've seen, it's Obama.
>>
>>
>>
>> JbTek wrote:
>>     
>>>> It is just a matter of time before Obama is indicted and impeached.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Bill,
>>> I don't think so.
>>>  If there is anything that would keep him from POTUS, the Clinton machine
>>>       
>> or
>>     
>>> the Republican machine would have exposed it before the primary or
>>>       
>> election,
>>     
>>> not after. The press isn't going to do it.
>>> Jb
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 3:18 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Illinois Governor Arrested for Corruption
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Jb,
>>>>
>>>> This was contained in the Rezko indictment, and the information was made
>>>> public during the Rezko trial.
>>>>
>>>> Also contained in the indictment and released during the trial was the
>>>> fact that Barack Obama was under investigation for involvement in the
>>>> same matters.
>>>>
>>>> It is just a matter of time before Obama is indicted and impeached.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> JbTek wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
>>>>>
>>>>> Federal prosecutors have investigated Blagojevich's administration for
>>>>> at least three years. They've been looking at everything from how he
>>>>> hired people for state jobs to the actions of friends and contributors.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So why did it take 3 years to arrest this guy when he has been doing
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>> this
>>>
>>>       
>>>>> stuff the whole time, and they knew it.
>>>>> Jb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Bill Effros" <bill at effros.com>
>>>>> To: "R22 List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 8:08 AM
>>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Illinois Governor Arrested for Corruption
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> December 9, 2008
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Illinois Governor Arrested for Corruption
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CHICAGO (AP) — An official says Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich
>>>>>> (bluh-GOY'-uh-vich) has been arrested in Chicago on corruption charges
>>>>>> stemming from the selection of the successor to President-elect Barack
>>>>>> Obama's U.S. Senate seat.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> U.S. Attorney's office spokesman Randall Samborn says both Blagojevich
>>>>>> and his chief of staff John Harris were arrested Tuesday. Authorities
>>>>>> aren't yet releasing details about those charges. However, a federal
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>> law
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>> enforcement official tells The Associated Press the governor is
>>>>>>             
>> accused
>>     
>>>>>> of corruption charges. The official says the charges stem from the
>>>>>> selection process of a successor to Obama.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Federal prosecutors have investigated Blagojevich's administration for
>>>>>> at least three years. They've been looking at everything from how he
>>>>>> hired people for state jobs to the actions of friends and
>>>>>>             
>> contributors.
>>     
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