[Rhodes22-list] Andrew C. said, "... again... and now a touch Political

Tootle ekroposki at charter.net
Sun Dec 14 12:01:14 EST 2008


Andrew,

Good to hear that you are keeping going on...

But you said, "As to credit, we observe that the media is not portraying the
actual
financial situation accurately (what a surprise).

Gee, it is your liberal media!  Are you saying that at times the MSM does
not knoweth what they say?  Have you heard me say that a few times?  

The main stream media has a craving for controversy and not truth nor
accuracy.  Locally our paper is what I would call 'Liberal'.  They claim
balanced, but if you do not understand what is reported how can it be
balanced.

Since you seem to one of the few with a positive outlook, we list members
expect your leadership in getting things accomplished in the Northeast.  

Ed K
Addendum:  "New York State.Cattargaugus County/ 1851- a burial ground
uncovered scores of skeltons with bodies if 7 to 8 and a half ft tall." 
News you can believe in...








Andrew Collins-2 wrote:
> 
> Ed
> 
> While the mechanism of taking my people and perhaps clients on aretreat
> would no work for many reasons, your underlying concept of stating that
> the
> situation is vulnerable to analysis and measures can be taken that will
> compensate for the 'absence ' (more on this in a moment) of liquidity in
> the
> credit market is right on.
> We are doing some things that are new: we have established an Energy
> Modeling Laboratory which allows our clients to know the annual energy
> consumption cost of every design decision made and this also allows us to
> guide them to obtaining utility co. rebates for equipment and solar PV
> installations, Green Building tax credits, and accreditation through the
> US
> Green Building Council (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design). We
> printed up a nifty postcard announcing the Energy Lab, we reduced fees, we
> will do certain kinds of inspection work we hadn't been doing, and so
> forth.
> We are the engineers for the only LEED Platinum rated building in NY
> State,
> the Queens Botanical Garden Admin Building, which gives us credibility
> whenbidding. We have formed a marketing group that offers soup to nuts
> design to construction to commissioning services. So we are adjusting our
> sails.
> 
> As to credit, we observe that the media is not portraying the actual
> financial situation accurately (what a surprise). Since I cannot know
> exactly what is happenning due to my worm's eye view, by inference I do
> know
> that things are not monolithically froze. As is usual during downturns the
> following sectors are up: education, bars and restaurants,
> endowment-funded
> outfits like the Bronx Zoo continue to work, as do publicly funded
> projects.
> Luxury homes are recession proof, but housing in general has not stopped
> in
> its tracks by any means. Corporations need new offices if they down-size,
> and if they move, let us keep our fingers crossed. Malls, restaurants etc
> are jammed in the NY, Tucson and LA areas, my sources report. An employee
> bought his first house, with a mortgage and at a steep discount (25%!) and
> the builder paid the closing costs. I guess the builder is reacting, too.
> Other clients are clearly getting credit. So while the construction sector
> is slowing as a whole, it is nuanced.
> Thanks for your support
> 
> Andrew
> sv Carmen
> 
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Andrew C said, "Oh, and since my clients can't get loans, they are not
>> building, and don't need to hire engineers. This is going to be quite a
>> holiday season, thanks to the absence of leadership in the in the halls
>> of
>> Washington."
>>
>> Andrew, looking to others or to Washington is an abdication of
>> leadership.
>> At times you seem to be a man who can reason.  Consider the approaching
>> quiet time as opportunity.
>>
>> What you say?  Have you ever heard of the Adirondack Mountains?  Find a
>> cheap and quaint motel, hotel, or such near or in the mountains.  Take
>> your
>> people for a couple of days cross country skiing.  Tell them to bring
>> their
>> lap tops and a couple of blank flip charts.
>>
>> Maybe bring a real prospect that has a genuine need for your services.
>> Bring in a banker or someone skilled at getting financing to do projects.
>>
>> The second day after a day of exercise and skiing and beverages, sit
>> around
>> a big round table in the morning and discuss a hypothetical built around
>> your client and his need.
>>
>> Just go around the table as a case study with brain storming, no
>> solutions
>> just discussions of need.  Then go skiing again.
>>
>> Designate two different people to prepare old fashioned paper flip charts
>> of
>> the mornings discussions.  Over dinner and wine, review what was said,
>> and
>> then on a blank flip chart write down potential ways to achieve a good
>> result.
>>
>> Leaders do not look to others to lead.  There is always a need for
>> leaders.
>> Now is the time for you to be that 2nd Lieutenant and say "Charge".
>>
>> Ed K
>> Addendum:  ""I am looking for a lot of men who have an infinite capacity
>> to
>> not know what can't be done." Henry Ford
>>
>>
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