[Rhodes22-list] Political- Caroline's disappointing day.

Brad Haslett flybrad at gmail.com
Wed Dec 17 17:33:11 EST 2008


Ben,

That reminds me of one of the favorite stories I've read about A
Lincoln. He took a vote at a cabinet meeting one day, "all those
opposed say NAY".  Every single cabinet member opposed his idea.
"Very well, the AYES have it!"

Brad

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:08 PM, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
>
> So therefor, there being no voices raised in support of Ms. Kennedy's
> candidacy, and upon unanimous consent of the body, be it hereby resolved
> that Ms. Kennedy should not be endorsed for the office of US Senator from
> New York. Next case.
>
> Thanks boys,
>
> Ben C.
>
>
>
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>
>> Herb,
>>
>> What's the big fuss in Illinois about?  Their Senate seat has been
>> unused for four years.  Why the big hurry?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> wrote:
>>> That's the kicker Brad, she's not going to be running against anyone.
>>> There won't be an election (I think). I'm almost positive that filling
>>> Hillary's vacancy is by appointment.
>>>
>>> Stop and think about THAT one. How much of a "deal" did New Yorkers get
>>> when they voted for Hillary this time around? She spent the first half
>>> of her term campaigning for another job, then is going to resign to take
>>> a DIFFERENT "other job".
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>> Ben,
>>>>
>>>> "Who the heck is advising her?"  Good question, maybe that idiot
>>>> neo-Republican John McCain? I'd say Ms. Kennedy has the exact number
>>>> of political and business successes to point to in her career as the
>>>> President-Elect, ie,  ZERO - without the long string of corrupt
>>>> colleagues and failed leadership in quasi-public ventures. Why the
>>>> need to compare her to Sarah Palin?  Does she have a record of
>>>> standing up to corruption?  Palin has a long record of
>>>> accomplishments.  If Ms. Kennedy has 1/10 of that record then I'd say
>>>> she's more than qualified.  Who is she running against?  What are
>>>> their qualifications? Since when did the NYTimes give a shit about
>>>> competence? The NYTimes isn't worth  wrapping dead fish in Rahm
>>>> Emmanuel style - it gives dead fish a bad image and makes them smell
>>>> bad.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Folks;
>>>>>
>>>>> In the article posted below a reporter is said to have asked Ms.
>>>>> Kennedy
>>>>> what she would say about her qualifications for the job of US Senator
>>>>> from
>>>>> NY. Surely she knew the question would come, and surely she must have
>>>>> thought about her answer. It is reported that "an aide" stopped her
>>>>> from
>>>>> responding. What's up with that?
>>>>>
>>>>> I was 14 years old when her father was killed, and a sophomore in high
>>>>> school. I was just getting interested in politics and government. I
>>>>> know now
>>>>> he was deeply flawed, but we loved him and were terribly affected by
>>>>> his
>>>>> death.  I wanted so much for her to do well, but I must say this is not
>>>>> an
>>>>> auspicious beginning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Somebody joked that this was just a strategy to keep her cousin Kerry's
>>>>> ex-husband Andrew Cuomo from getting the job. I dimissed it, but now
>>>>> I'm not
>>>>> so sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do you not answer reporters who ask the obvious question in this
>>>>> circumstance? Who the heck is advising her? What a letdown.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NYTimes Online 12/17/08
>>>>> In Appearance Upstate, Kennedy Says Little
>>>>> By JEREMY W. PETERS and NICHOLAS CONFESSORE
>>>>> SYRACUSE — In a carefully controlled strategy reminiscent of the
>>>>> vice-presidential hopeful Sarah Palin, aides to Caroline Kennedy
>>>>> interrupted
>>>>> her on Wednesday and whisked her away when she was asked what her
>>>>> qualifications are to be a United States senator.
>>>>>
>>>>> In her first public appearance since letting it be known that wants to
>>>>> succeed Hillary Rodham Clinton, Ms. Kennedy emerged from a closed-door
>>>>> meeting with Matthew J. Driscoll, the mayor of Syracuse, where about a
>>>>> dozen
>>>>> reporters were waiting.
>>>>>
>>>>> She offered a 30-second statement saying that she would respect the
>>>>> process
>>>>> undertaken by Gov. David A. Paterson to fill the vacancy.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then, as reporters asked why Ms. Kennedy was seeking the Senate seat
>>>>> and
>>>>> whether she was ready, she did not answer, then walked away, heading
>>>>> toward
>>>>> a waiting black sport-utility vehicle.
>>>>>
>>>>> When one reporter asked what she would tell New Yorkers who question
>>>>> whether
>>>>> she has the qualifications for the job, Ms. Kennedy, 51, started to
>>>>> respond.
>>>>> But then an aide stopped her from saying more, and led her to the
>>>>> waiting
>>>>> vehicle.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Hopefully I can come back and answer all those questions," she called
>>>>> out
>>>>> as she got into the S.U.V.
>>>>>
>>>>> It was the first stop in an orchestrated tour of upstate New York. Ms.
>>>>> Kennedy has plans to visit with officials in Rochester and, possibly,
>>>>> Buffalo, a first stab at getting skeptical upstate voters used to the
>>>>> idea
>>>>> of being represented in Washington by yet another down-stater.
>>>>>
>>>>> The area has already expressed wariness of her, with some officials and
>>>>> newspapers questioning her abilities.
>>>>>
>>>>> The tour has been kept somewhat secretive, reflecting, in part, the
>>>>> delicacy
>>>>> of the situation. No schedule was given, though details percolated
>>>>> rapidly
>>>>> through political circles in New York. An aide accompanying her said
>>>>> she was
>>>>> headed to Rochester after Syracuse, but declined to say where.
>>>>>
>>>>> Technically, there is no seat open, since the current holder, Senator
>>>>> Clinton, has not yet been confirmed to be secretary of state. And there
>>>>> can
>>>>> be no true campaign, since there is no true election: the only vote
>>>>> that
>>>>> counts if that of Governor Paterson.
>>>>>
>>>>> In her brief statement, Ms. Kennedy said: "As some of you may have
>>>>> heard, I
>>>>> told Governor Paterson I'd be honored to be considered for the position
>>>>> of
>>>>> United States senator. There's a lot of good people in this community
>>>>> that
>>>>> the governor is considering. He's laid out a process and I'm proud to
>>>>> be
>>>>> part of that process."
>>>>>
>>>>> As the S.U.V. pulled out of downtown Syracuse, she gave a wave and a
>>>>> smile
>>>>> to the disappointed reporters who had gathered.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben C.
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