[Rhodes22-list] Who's List Is It?

[Bill Effros]

John,

If you proceed we've got a real problem.

Rhodes22 may have been registered by Michael, but he represented it to 
me as work for hire, and he let it be known on the list that he received 
payment in kind for his services.

"Rhodes" is a trademark.  Only General Boats holds the license for 
"Rhodes22".  Michael can't use trademarks he doesn't own.  He can't use 
copyrighted material he doesn't own.  And he can't either use or 
transfer email addresses without permission.

If you guys want to start a sailing list with yourselves as the great 
poobahs, go right ahead.  I'm sure many will join you.  But why must you 
simultaneously destroy the existing list?  Explain to me exactly how 
this destructive act cures the "tone".

We can muddle along just fine without you, as we have for many years.  
We think we're sometimes funny, sometimes crude, sometimes helpful, and 
often annoying.  What do you accomplish by taking or destroying what 
we've built?

Start your own list.  Build it.  Police it.  Promote it.

Try posting a privacy policy this time--and clearly state who owns the 
list.  I haven't checked lately, but I do believe both of these things 
are required. What do you think?

Now, we can work this all out together, or you and "my way or the 
highway" can escalate this silliness into a real problem.

Your choice.

Bill Effros







John Lock wrote:
> At 04:11 PM 12/31/2008 -0500, Bill Effros wrote:
>   
>> What he can't do is "give" my work, to John without my permission, and
>> let me state, here and now, that I do not give John permission to
>> distribute my work.
>>     
>
> Gosh, Bill... then we've got a real problem.  Michael does own the 
> domain name "rhodes22.org".  However, I own the servers and resources 
> that publish the list and archive.  So, I am already publishing your 
> material without your permission.  Did you also grant permission for 
> nabble.com to publish your information?  Better deal with that 
> situation as well.
>
> It is a simple matter to run a program that removes your material 
> from the archives (the ones at rhodes22.org, can't do anything about 
> nabble.com).  However, if you continue to send e-mail to the list, 
> you are implicitly granting permission for me to publish it.
>
> So... if you want to follow this to its logical conclusion, cease 
> sending email to the list and I will remove all your copyrighted 
> material from the archives.
>
>
> John Lock
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