[Rhodes22-list] Fw: Chris Crispel - some sauce to you with the bone that you threw out.

Ron Singerman sail at tds.net
Tue Feb 5 13:55:44 EST 2008 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Singerman" <sail at tds.net>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel - some sauce to you with the bone 
that you threw out.


> Can you imagine that?  A site that actually limits discussion to boats. 
> What will they think of next?
>
>>>rns<<
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Rik Sandberg" <sanderico1 at gmail.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel - some sauce to you with the 
> bone that you threw out.
>
>
>> Brad,
>>
>> Yep, very nice boats. They do have a really nice picture site.
>>
>> But, yes, god forbid you talk about anything other than boats on their
>> list. Not really much to go there for unless you have some question
>> about the boat. Kinda like most sailing boards/lists, other than this
>> one. Not much going on. I guess that's why people tend to stay on here, 
>> eh?
>>
>> Rik
>>
>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> Looks like a nice boat - dull owners group!
>>>
>>> Brad
>>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2008 7:47 PM, Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Good Evening Ed:
>>>>
>>>> The Montgomery 23 is far from a pipe dream.  Montgomery has been 
>>>> selling
>>>> boats for more years than I have under my belt.  I don't expect to run
>>>> into
>>>> a boat that has headroom that will allow me to stand erect, at least 
>>>> not
>>>> in
>>>> the trailerable category.  However, the Montgomery has 5'10.5" 
>>>> headroom,
>>>> enough to allow me to move about without being on my knees (Rhodes).
>>>>
>>>> You and others will find Montgomery Boats by doing a Google search and 
>>>> you
>>>> will find their web site.  Click on the picture and scroll down and you
>>>> will
>>>> undoubtedly see the link to the 23.
>>>>
>>>> By my guest.
>>>>
>>>> Chris C
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tootle" <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:56 PM
>>>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel - some sauce to you with the 
>>>> bone
>>>> that you threw out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Chris C:
>>>>>
>>>>> Where on the internet is some accurate information or pictures of this
>>>>> Montgomery 23.  Or is it just a dream like Stan's 28?  At least with
>>>>> Stan's
>>>>> dream a hull exist.  I can give you the name of another company that
>>>>> alleged
>>>>> it was building a trailerable 28.  They were never able to fund it, so
>>>>> still
>>>>> build their bigger boat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you looked at:
>>>>> http://www.etapyachting.com/index.php?pageID=50&lang=en
>>>>> But the 28 still has only 6' 4" standing headroom.
>>>>>
>>>>> But nobody makes or designs small sailboats with your headroom.  Have
>>>>>
>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>> considered an open Viking boat?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed K
>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Crispel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Brad:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm seriously considering a Montgomery 23, designed for the sea and
>>>>>> transportable by trailor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 9:47 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes 22 Evaluation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "A man got's to know his limits!"  I'd give you some advice on a
>>>>>>> sailboat
>>>>>>> that is just right for you at 6' 7" but off the top of my head I'd
>>>>>>>
>>>> have
>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> suggest something from Royal Caribbean. BTW, I don't own a Rhodes
>>>>>>> anymore
>>>>>>> but this list varies between 80% sailboat and 20% social/political
>>>>>>> commentary (or visa verse) and cyberspace gunfights.  Pick any issue
>>>>>>>
>>>> you
>>>>
>>>>>>> want unless it is against Stan, Rose, or Elton.  They aren't sacred
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>> but you'll wish YOU were if you treat them with disrespect.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 4, 2008 11:30 AM, Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Rhodes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Last Saturday, Chris Geankoplis (commonly referred to as Da Greek),
>>>>>>>> picked
>>>>>>>> my wife and I up at our home (sold our car in anticipation of the
>>>>>>>>
>>>> sale
>>>>
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> our home as the first step to our relocation to Panama) and drove 
>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>> home in Medford (about 13 miles from Ashland) to where his wife,
>>>>>>>>
>>>> Alice,
>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> The Boat resides.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We had plenty of opportunity to see the great cockpit, the
>>>>>>>>
>>>> comfortable
>>>>
>>>>>>>> coamings and storage built into it.  The area below was as clever 
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> unbelievable goodies found aboard a 22 ft boat.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, it was abundantly clear that the vessel is just to small 
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> frame 6'7" and girth (these numbers will remain undisclosed).  The
>>>>>>>> bedding
>>>>>>>> in the main cabin could me made larger to accommodate me and the 
>>>>>>>> pop
>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>> could be raised another 3 inches and the seatback in the saloon 
>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> moved forward so that my head is not angled forward due to the
>>>>>>>>
>>>> ceiling
>>>>
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> the head enclosure could be modified for my long knees, the hatch
>>>>>>>>
>>>> would
>>>>
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> to open whenever I would need to use it, etc, etc.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In the final analysis, although a cork floats, (as does the foamed
>>>>>>>> Rhodes)
>>>>>>>> if you were in it at sea, it may not be the most comfortable
>>>>>>>> environment
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> which to experience an even short ocean passage.  The cockpit
>>>>>>>>
>>>> although
>>>>
>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>>> and comfortable is potentially dangerous on an ocean going boat if
>>>>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>>>>> bow
>>>>>>>> is lifted out of the water by the weight of the water in the 
>>>>>>>> cockpit.
>>>>>>>>  (yes,
>>>>>>>> I know that there are three drains and the foam will not let the 
>>>>>>>> boat
>>>>>>>> sink)
>>>>>>>> As we know all boats are a compromise and it appears that we are 
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> prepared to make the number and types of compromises on a boat and
>>>>>>>> trailer
>>>>>>>> that will sell for close to $50,000.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris, independent of my evaluation, seeing me in the boat and
>>>>>>>> attempting
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> move around in it, feels that the vessel is just not sized for me
>>>>>>>>
>>>> and,
>>>>
>>>>>>>> further, it's intended use would put it out of the picture as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, there you have it.  I would like to stick aroud on the website
>>>>>>>>
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>>>>> awhile and enjoy all the political commentary and all the nautical
>>>>>>>>
>>>> talk
>>>>
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> warms the cockels of my heart.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mucho Gracias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chris C
>>>>>>>>
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