[Rhodes22-list] Politics

[Brad Haslett]

Herb,

Thank you and the Patriot Guard Riders for the respect you show our fallen
heroes.

Brad

On Feb 12, 2008 9:47 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> Yeah, the dog races would probably have been more plesant. Here's the
> inside story, since there's at least a couple voices of reason here.
>
> I get two weeks paid vacation a year. While patriotic motivation wasn't
> the only reason for my decision, it was one of the biggest. This year I
> made a decison to start riding with the Patriot Guard Riders. Every one
> of my "vacation days" this year were spent riding with the PGR. This
> meant that instead of working on my project boat in New Orleans, or
> sailing my boat on Lake Grapevine, I was attending (usually) funerals
> for strangers that I didn't know, or (sometimes) seeing strangers off to
> war, shaking their hands and wishing them well, or welcoming them home
> thanking them for a job well done. Some of the "rides" were for hours in
> freezing cold weather (my first was PGR mission started at 5am with an
> outside temp of 19f degrees), or rain, or 90-100f heat.
>
> I don't say this to heap praise upon myself, because there's about
> 120,000 other folks that do the same thing, many of them doing so much
> more and under harsher condistions frequently than I.
>
> However, I DO say it to explain WHY I take it personally when a person
> uses the self-sacrifice of those troops to further their own political
> beliefs.
>
> I doubt that the person in this discussion who accused me of being
> "non-chalant" about the sacrifice these people, and thier families, have
> made has done the same or similar; yet this person throws off a
> statement like that for one reason - to support their political
> viewpoint. But you know, it really doesn't MATTER of that person has
> done the same, the FACT is that said person spoke of my attitude about
> the deaths of others in total ignorance (not knowing my view), and I
> find that disgusting.
>
> I hope you'll pardon me my disdain.
>
> If those that don't see my view want to come stand by me in the on the
> flag line, I'd be happy to stand with them. You don't have to be for or
> against the war, you don't even have to have a motorcycle. I can promise
> you this though, once you've done it once, once you've had the
> mother/wife/husband/daughter/son of one of these hero's look you in the
> eye and thank you for being there, as if what you've done even remotely
> compares to their sacrifice, you'll have a totally different viewpoint.
> Maybe then you'll be a lot less hesitant to use the sacrifice of these
> people to further your petty political statements.
>
> I suspect you'll also come away with a different view of others' alleged
> "non-chalance".
>
> And now, I AM through with the particular little side-thread. If someone
> wants to think ill of my for my view, fine I can live with that. Your
> insults will go ignored by me. If someone understands, thank you for
> your understanding.
>
>
> Brad Haslett wrote:
> > Wow, glad I had to go to work today!  The statement we use in the
> simulator
> > five times an hour is probably appropriate here -
> >
> > "OK, that problem is over, new day, new jet!"
> >
> > The idea of going to the dog track this weekend probably is the highest
> and
> > best use of my time.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2008 9:02 PM, Just bent <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> Herb, no offense taken here,
> >>  I think the way you insult is much more effective than Roberts.
> >> Jb
> >>
> >>
> >> hparsons wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, I'll have to give up. Anyone that can't recognize the sarcasm
> can
> >>> hardly be expected to acknowledge their own hypocrisy.
> >>>
> >>> So, are you going to make implications about my mother, maybe one of
> my
> >>> kids, or have you fully exhausted the depths of your abilities?
> >>>
> >>> And how about the restu of you folks that were so "offended" by my
> >>> posts. Will you really sit there mutely while Robert insults my
> mother?
> >>> At least in my "lowering of standards", I insulted the person
> directly,
> >>> rather than attacking his family.
> >>>
> >>> I will say this for you Robert, you don't surprise me at all.
> >>>
> >>> Robert Skinner wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hmmm, I don't know. Let me work on it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> By all means.  I look forward to your cutting new territory
> >>>> in this exchange.  I would rejoice in your getting a "10"
> >>>> or two from the judges.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> I guess I'll have to sit back in awe at your amazing level of
> >>>>> intelligence and the "high ground" you take.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> Please don't give up so easily.  I had such hopes...
> >>>>
> >>>> /Robert
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> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> --
> >>> Herb Parsons
> >>> S/V O'Jure - O'Day 25
> >>> S/V Reve de Pappa - Coronado 35
> >>>
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