[Rhodes22-list] Brad--Flight Time

Steven Alm stevenalm at gmail.com
Tue Feb 19 20:49:56 EST 2008


Art,

Thanks for the invite but no plans to go down there soon.  Wish I could.  I
hope to visit sometime this summer when my wife can go too.  Naples is much
nicer in the summer IMO.  I like it hot and it's never crowded anywhere.

Slim

On Feb 19, 2008 5:52 PM, Arthur H. Czerwonky <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
wrote:

> Slim,
>
> Speaking of time off, when are bound for Florida again to see your mother?
>  I may be able to sync on of my trips and take you out on Tampa Bay.
>  Actually any skippers plan to travel south.  The winter sailing is mighty
> nice.
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com>
> >Sent: Feb 19, 2008 5:45 PM
> >To: The Rhodes 22 mail list <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Brad--Flight Time
> >
> >Hank,
> >
> >We got most of June, July and August off although each year they seem to
> >creep further into June.  Then approx two weeks off for Christmas/New
> Year,
> >a week off at Easter/Spring break and another 6 or 7 miscellaneous days
> for
> >Presidents Day, convention day, MEA, and a few others I can't remember.
> >Maybe it's a bit more than 8 months but less than 9.
> >
> >Rik,
> >
> >Wow!  What do you do with all your spare time?
> >
> >Brad,
> >
> >In my business, like many others, there's a trend to hire younger and
> thus
> >lower paid performers.  We old Jedi Masters have to keep being more and
> more
> >masterful to stay ahead of the kids.  There ain't no seniority thing.
>  There
> >is a musician's union but it's just for certain jobbing gigs like the
> >symphony, the circus band, broadway shows and the old guy who plays the
> >organ at the ball park--I hope that's me some day.
> >
> >Slim
> >
> >On Feb 19, 2008 8:35 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Slim,
> >>
> >> Around 25,000 hours is in the ballpark (I'd have to pull-up the latest
> >> printout from the company). I spent a few years teaching in the 727 and
> >> the
> >> last few teaching in the DC-10 and don't fly that much during the
> teaching
> >> gigs.  We are limited to 1000 hours of "hard time" a year but you only
> >> approach that if you fly international (I don't do that anymore, been
> >> there,
> >> done that, got plenty of cheap T-shirts from all over the world). My
> guess
> >> is that "time on duty" is about double what the flight time is,
> especially
> >> if you fly domestic. Experience counts for a lot, but only if there is
> a
> >> learning curve to go with it.  I'd like to think my skill-set is still
> >> improving with age but there comes a time when the 'ole eyes' and other
> >> body
> >> parts don't react as well as they used to.  That's when the "old bull,
> >> young
> >> bull" operating modus comes into play to make-up for the difference.
> One
> >> benefit of being a 'senior' pilot is that you don't have to screw
> around
> >> with the rheostats in the cockpit anymore - you just crank all the
> lights
> >> to
> >> full bright and then complain about the dimmest bulb.
> >>
> >> Brad
> >>
> >> On Feb 19, 2008 5:49 AM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Brad,
> >> >
> >> > The History Channel is playing "History of the Joke" hosted by Lewis
> >> Black
> >> > and he's interviewing all these many comics on all the many aspects
> of
> >> > comedy.  One of the segments referred to experience and they were
> >> talking
> >> > to
> >> > Penn and Teller.  Penn said that when you look at a pilot, the first
> >> thing
> >> > you look at is his flight time hours.  He then equated his "flight
> time
> >> > hours" as an important part of the success of a comedian.  Like
> anything
> >> > else, experience is important.
> >> >
> >> > So just for the hell of it I've tried to calculate my "hours."  I'm
> >> > starting
> >> > with my first full-time band that I joined when I was 25 years old.
>  I'm
> >> a
> >> > music major grad and I'm in my first full-time professional music
> job.
> >> >  Like
> >> > you, I started performing for money when I was still a teenager--I'm
> not
> >> > counting that.  I'm not counting my college gigs, not counting
> commuting
> >> > time, not counting rehearsal time (biggie), I'm not counting break
> time,
> >> > not
> >> > even counting the few years I was a public shool teacher--just flight
> >> > time--when I'm in the air and have control of the airplane.  In other
> >> > words,
> >> > on stage.  I haven't gone through all my years with a fine toothed
> comb
> >> > and
> >> > made any exact totals but in very round numbers I think I have about
> >> > 25,000+
> >> > full-time, professional hours of actual "flight time."
> >> >
> >> > Now, for professionals like Elle, a teacher, her flight time hours
> will
> >> > exceed that by many fold.  Give flight time hours a shot, Elle.  You
> >> > probably teach 6 units a day, we're not including preps (sorry--I
> have
> >> > more
> >> > prep hours than anybody--I started "prepping" for my job at age 5.)
>  I
> >> > know
> >> > you put in more than 40 hours/ week but let's just start there.  40 X
> 4
> >> > weeks is 160 hours a month times 8 months is 1280 times (guessing) 30
> >> > years
> >> > is 38,400 actual flight time hours.  Am I close?  I don't know if
> I'll
> >> > catch
> >> > up to you before I'm retired--or dead.
> >> >
> >> > How many hours have you logged?
> >> >
> >> > Slim
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