[Rhodes22-list] The following post is Political, Religious, Educational, point of discussions, Big Al delete!

Thu Jan 10 16:07:11 EST 2008

so i'm right. control. an eye for an eye. now that's going back, how far? and bs on the world market. our market. would we stand for russian or chinese ships in the straits? no way! control! as far as making iran an ally, what do they want? whatever it is ....we have it....control. are we willing to give it to them....probably not. perhaps its time for the carrot.

Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:  John,

International law is international law. Don't get sucked in by jingoism!
The Iranians knew exactly what they were doing was provocative. The US Navy
patrols the seaways for the world market. If we quit, the Chinese will take
over tomorrow. This is a small globe. How do you make Iran an ally?
Perhaps the methods we used with Germany and Japan is the solution.
Methinks you live in fantasy land. Israel doesn't have the luxury of living
in fantasy land. They live in reality. We have a strong movement in this
country to paint Israel as the bad guys. BS! History moves slowly
sometimes. In the case of Israel, they had about 6000 years to figure out
what works, and force works quite nicely, thank you. We've had 1300 years
to figure out what works with the "Religion of Peace", and force works quite
nicely, thank you. The Iranians aren't bad people, I know several. But,
peace comes at the end of a gun barrel.

You can continue to draw on your 'crack pipe' of why 'can't we just all get
along' but it won't solve the problem. I'm not suggesting the Chinese
solution to the problem (I know people in government in the China Muslim
provinces and the reason you don't hear about their radical Muslim problems
is because the bad guys are dead) but we can't be pussies either. Well, we
can, remember 9/11?

Brad

On Jan 10, 2008 12:23 PM, john Belanger wrote:

> the solution we seem to be going for seems to be control. i will ask the
> obvious question: if ships of a foriegn nation were passing close to our
> shores, would we not send someone out to see whats going on? would we have
> any shortage of volunteers? think about this: make iran an ally. its much
> cheaper. if iran is on our side, many problems go away. no, really, think
> about it. even israel would be happy. better yet, who would be unhappy?
> bolton?
>
> Brad Haslett wrote: Robert,
>
> The religious beliefs of the candidates are the last thing we need to
> worry
> about. They all have a long enough political career to judge them on their
> political record. The issue in 2000 was that 43 (who apparently is sincere
> in his religious beliefs) was going to impose some religious doctrine on
> the
> country. That didn't happen. His wife and mother disagree with him on his
> views on certain issues that have a religious backdrop. He's gone in about
> a year anyway. The attacks on Obama's faith will come from fellow Dems. I
> hope the GOP has enough class to stay away from the issue.
>
> In other news that got lost in Hillary's crying, Obama's smile, and
> Brittney's trip to the hospital, we came damn close to a shooting war with
> Iran on Sunday. I'm assuming that the Bush Administration has put Iran on
> notice that next time the Navy might not be so restrained. The Looney Left
> is portraying this as a Gulf of Tonkin type incident. It is not! I could
> care less whether the next President pees standing up or sitting down,
> worships every Sunday/Saturday, or not at all. White or Black (Obama can
> go
> either way and chose Black) is insignificant. The real issue is : Do you
> think there are bad people in the World and if so, what are you willing to
> do about it?
>
> Sunday was scary! Domestic issues will seem trivial if we don't win 'The
> Long War'. We're addicted to cheap and easy energy and that funds the
> "Religion of Peace" fruitcakes of the world. If a candidate can solve that
> riddle they get my vote, even if they're from Mars.
>
> Brad
>
> On Jan 10, 2008 9:55 AM, Robert Skinner wrote:
>
> > Ed wrote,
> >
> > "which U. S. Presidential candidate is alledged [sic] ...".
> >
> > Alleged? Church? Guilt by association? McCarthyism?
> >
> > Here we go 'round again! Osama wants to take us back to
> > 700 AD. Ed is more conservative - he only wants to take us
> > back to the 1950s.
> >
> > Hell, the Shrub joined a secret death-worshipping cult when
> > he was in college. Come to think of it, he's still a
> > member and is leading his cronies in kill counts by a long
> > shot.
> >
> > /Robert
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Tootle wrote:
> > >
> > > See the following web site:
> > >
> > > http://www.tucc.org/mission.htm
> > >
> > > Ask yourself, which U. S. Presidential candidate is alledged
> > > to belong to this church?
> > >
> > > And it is not Mitt Romney.
> > >
> > > And to save Captain Rummy the effort, look at this comment:
> > >
> > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/church.asp
> > >
> > > As an aside, W.E.B. DuBois held a Phd. from Harvard. However, his
> point
> > of
> > > view was authoritarian elitest rather than democratic. The following
> > > comment ought to make the neo marxist on this forum happy: In 1959, Du
> > Bois
> > > received the Lenin Peace Prize. In 1961, at the age of 93, he joined
> the
> > > Communist Party USA.
> > >
> > > Ed K
> > > Greenville, SC, USA
> > >
> > > --
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> >
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