[Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel

[Chris Crispel]

Stan:

Could you respond to the second part of my question relative to changes that 
have been made in the past two and a half years.

Thanks

Chris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel


> yes - every night.
>
> never sure about Jack London's park - like going cause our kid lives in
> Santa Cruz but bringing a boat back with these gas prices !
>
> ss
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>
>
>> Stan:
>>
>> Do you plan to be at Sail Pacific in April?  If you are would love to
>> spend
>> some quality time with you.
>>
>> Stan, it has been about two years since we chatted last.  Have you made
>> any
>> improvements to the boat in the last two years.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:44 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>
>>
>>>I might point out that Chris is the noted skipper sailing his old Rhodes
>>>in
>>> the cover  illustration of one of the latest books that they insist
>>> publishing about the Rhodes.   In this book the author, who is a 
>>> Catalina
>>> man, waxes on to say, "From the deep blue ocean to shallow coves, the
>>> Rhodes
>>> covers it all.".
>>>
>>> ss
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:21 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>
>>>
>>>> Your on!  Will give you a call tomorrow.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:06 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Aw Chris,
>>>>>                What a bummer, I just opened my email after a bit of a
>>>>> haietus to find a felow (well potential) Rhodie right next door from
>>>>> Medford
>>>>> where I live.  Tell you what, I'll try to change your mind AND I buy
>>>>> the
>>>>> beer at Standing Stone.   Give me a call at 857-1061 anytime after 6
>>>>> pm.
>>>>> I
>>>>> have a lot of sailing experience and have admitidly pushed the limits
>>>>> on
>>>>> the
>>>>> boat but didn't find them, well maybe that one time with the
>>>>> tornado........
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>> Medford, OR
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, Robert, unfortunately it looks that way.  Not enough boat for my
>>>>>> intended use.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>> From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:16 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Chris, given what you have laid out as
>>>>>> > requirements, and the nature and depth
>>>>>> > of your objections, it appears that you
>>>>>> > have ruled out the Rhodes 22.  Is that
>>>>>> > the case?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > /Robert
>>>>>> > ---------------------------------------
>>>>>> > Chris Crispel wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Hi Mary Lou:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Most of the vessels that ply that country are at least 27' 
>>>>>> >> vessels,
>>>>>> >> usually
>>>>>> >> with a cutaway full keel, or a fin keel with a lot of lead in the
>>>>>> >> fin.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Thanks
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Chris
>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>>>>> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:46 AM
>>>>>> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> > Chris,
>>>>>> >> > A few more thoughts.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > I think Steve (Slim) makes a good distinction between two kinds
>>>>>> >> > of
>>>>>> >> > sailing. Do you want a small trailerable boat with its attendant
>>>>>> >> > characteristics or do you want a more solid ocean going boat 
>>>>>> >> > that
>>>>>> >> > is
>>>>>> >> > less trailerable. (Most boats under 40ft. are transportable if
>>>>>> >> > you
>>>>>> >> > have access to a crane (on both sides of the country) and a
>>>>>> >> > flatbed.
>>>>>> >> > The real consideration in my mind is how far you have to go and
>>>>>> >> > likely are you to get caught out in real weather - your
>>>>>> >> > definition
>>>>>> >> > but in my mind "real weather" does NOT include the passing
>>>>>> >> > squall.
>>>>>> >> > If
>>>>>> >> > you remember Paul Cleavenger's description of his capsize he 
>>>>>> >> > says
>>>>>> >> > that had he been able to get the bow into the wind he might have
>>>>>> >> > weathered even the microburst. Note that the wave that capsized
>>>>>> >> > him
>>>>>> >> > built in a shallow river. I don't know the depths where you 
>>>>>> >> > might
>>>>>> >> > be
>>>>>> >> > sailing but in true ocean depths waves won't build in a short
>>>>>> >> > squall.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > I think the question for you may be how likely are you to get
>>>>>> >> > caught
>>>>>> >> > out in weather systems that raise the winds above 25 knots for a
>>>>>> >> > day
>>>>>> >> > at a time? Wind blowing 25 knots for 24 hours or more will build
>>>>>> >> > up
>>>>>> >> > bigger waves than a sudden brief squall. Somewhere between 20 
>>>>>> >> > and
>>>>>> >> > 30
>>>>>> >> > knots, the Rhodes becomes less able to tack into the wind.  The
>>>>>> >> > windage of the flared hull, the freeboard and rigging combine
>>>>>> >> > with
>>>>>> >> > the larger waves throwing you about and it all catches up to 
>>>>>> >> > you.
>>>>>> >> > If
>>>>>> >> > you are sailing on the ocean, what are the distances between you
>>>>>> >> > and
>>>>>> >> > a safe harbor? Would you have enough notice of a weather system
>>>>>> >> > coming in to get there?
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > We sail all over the Chesapeake in our Rhodes. Weather
>>>>>> >> > forecasting
>>>>>> >> > and delivery of weather information is good. We can pick our
>>>>>> >> > weather
>>>>>> >> > windows. Safe harbors are never more than 8 hours away.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > What do folks who sail your prospective cruising grounds sail?
>>>>>> >> > Are
>>>>>> >> > there boats under 30 ft? If folks are sailing newer small
>>>>>> >> > Catalinas
>>>>>> >> > and Hunters, they are probably not much more seaworthy than the
>>>>>> >> > Rhodes.We spend a lot of time with folks with bigger boats and
>>>>>> >> > while
>>>>>> >> > we are perhaps more cautious where the weather is concerned (our
>>>>>> >> > motto is "why get beat up if you don't have to?"), we don't miss
>>>>>> >> > much. For the most part we find that when we stay in because of
>>>>>> >> > the
>>>>>> >> > wind and waves, our friends in Catalinas stay in as well. Some 
>>>>>> >> > of
>>>>>> >> > our
>>>>>> >> > friends in Island Packets or the guy with the Heritage West
>>>>>> >> > Indies
>>>>>> >> > 34
>>>>>> >> > will go out in higher winds and be comfortable.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > Again best of luck with your decision,
>>>>>> >> > Mary Lou
>>>>>> >> > 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>>> >> > Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > At 09:48 AM 1/23/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>Steven:
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>You have given sound advice.  I was just about to pack it in 
>>>>>> >> >>when
>>>>>> >> >>I
>>>>>> >> >>received
>>>>>> >> >>your e-mail.  Of course your right and will proceed cautiously.
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>Thanks Again
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>Chris
>>>>>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >> >>From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:51 AM
>>>>>> >> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> > Chris,
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > I think it all depends on how you like to sail.  Obviously 
>>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>>> >> >> > R22
>>>>>> >> >> > is
>>>>>> >> >> > much
>>>>>> >> >> > more tender than a full keel boat like the Dana, Flicka, Cape
>>>>> Dory,
>>>>>> >> >> > whatever, but I've been caught in high winds and have been 
>>>>>> >> >> > way
>>>>>> >> >> > over-powered
>>>>>> >> >> > and dunked my rails and shipped water into the cockpit many
>>>>>> >> >> > times.
>>>>>> >> >> > If
>>>>>> >> >> > you
>>>>>> >> >> > don't mind riding a spirited horse then you'll be fine.  The
>>>>>> >> >> > boat
>>>>> is
>>>>>> >> >> > seaworthy as hell but in high winds, you're in for some "X
>>>>> sailing."
>>>>>> >> >> > Secure
>>>>>> >> >> > your gear and sail her like a laser.  I'm fine with that and
>>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>>> >> >> > boat's
>>>>>> >> >> > fine
>>>>>> >> >> > with that, but the Mrs. doesn't like it that much.  Therein
>>>>>> >> >> > lies
>>>>> the
>>>>>> >> >> > question:  What does the Mrs. want?  I've finally learned to
>>>>>> >> >> > reef
>>>>>> >> >> > way
>>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>>> >> >> > hell in and sail upright in high winds and keep the crew 
>>>>>> >> >> > happy
>>>>>> >> >> > and
>>>>>> >> >> > safe.
>>>>>> >> >> > This is the beauty of the Rhodes IMF with furling
>>>>>> >> >> > Genny--infinite
>>>>>> >> >> > reefing
>>>>>> >> >> > capabilities.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > That said, the highest wind you can comfortably sail the R22
>>>>>> >> >> > in
>>>>>> >> >> > is
>>>>>> >> >> > about
>>>>>> >> >> > 27.  Beyond that the hull has too much windage to tack about.
>>>>>> >> >> > In
>>>>>> >> >> > that
>>>>>> >> >> > case
>>>>>> >> >> > you have to jibe about, but you can still make way.  And if
>>>>>> >> >> > you're
>>>>>> >> >> > going
>>>>>> >> >> > downwind, you'll be a happy guy!
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > As for toughness, the R22 has 9 stays--each with it's own
>>>>>> >> >> > chainplate.
>>>>>> >> >> > You
>>>>>> >> >> > could lose any two and the mast would still stand.
>>>>> Ummm...probably.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > You said you are enamored by the Rhodes (as well you should
>>>>>> >> >> > be)
>>>>> for
>>>>>> >> >> > her
>>>>>> >> >> > many
>>>>>> >> >> > great features.  You said you want to explore the
>>>>>> >> >> > islands--with
>>>>> the
>>>>>> >> >> > combination keel of the Rhodes you can easily beach your boat
>>>>>> >> >> > on
>>>>>> >> >> > those
>>>>>> >> >> > islands.  You certainly can't do that with a full keel.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > You're an experienced sailor and you know big WX can f**k you
>>>>>> >> >> > up
>>>>> no
>>>>>> >> >> > matter
>>>>>> >> >> > what boat you're on.  Examine your needs and wants and ask
>>>>>> >> >> > more
>>>>>> >> >> > questions
>>>>>> >> >> > here.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > Re Panama, the San Blas are on the Caribbean side which is 
>>>>>> >> >> > far
>>>>> more
>>>>>> >> >> > calm
>>>>>> >> >> > than the Pacific.  I think you'd be fine with the R22.
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > Slim
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> > On Jan 23, 2008 12:50 AM, john Belanger <jhnblngr at yahoo.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> i have to ask a question. why are you buying a boat here and
>>>>> taking
>>>>>> >> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> >> to
>>>>>> >> >> >> panama? are you sailing it to panama, shipping it or driving
>>>>>> >> >> >> down
>>>>>> >> >> >> with
>>>>>> >> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> >> on
>>>>>> >> >> >> a trailer?  i may have missed part of your explanation,
>>>>>> >> >> >> somewhere
>>>>> .
>>>>>> >> >> >> sorry,
>>>>>> >> >> >> i
>>>>>> >> >> >> just don't get it. are you going to be on the atlantic  or
>>>>> pacific
>>>>>> >> >> >> side?
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote:  You mean like a
>>>>>> >> >> >> larger,
>>>>>> >> >> >> heavier boat with a diesel engine and prop (under
>>>>>> >> >> >> the hull)
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> thanks, you and others are helping me make a decision.
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> Chris
>>>>>> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >> >> >> From: "Just bent"
>>>>>> >> >> >> To:
>>>>>> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:10 PM
>>>>>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> > Chris,
>>>>>> >> >> >> > I have not been sailing long but I have been out in some
>>>>>> >> >> >> > big
>>>>>> >> >> >> > weather
>>>>>> >> >> >> > in
>>>>>> >> >> >> my
>>>>>> >> >> >> > R22, (on a lake) and the one thing that was a problem for
>>>>>> >> >> >> > me
>>>>> was
>>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>>> >> >> >> motor
>>>>>> >> >> >> > hanging off the back of the boat. I was rolling so much 
>>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>> prop
>>>>>> >> >> >> > would
>>>>>> >> >> >> > come
>>>>>> >> >> >> > out of the water. I remember thinking it might be better 
>>>>>> >> >> >> > if
>>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>>> >> >> >> > prop
>>>>>> >> >> >> > was
>>>>>> >> >> >> > under the boat.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> > Jb
>>>>>> >> >> >> > Just bent
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> > Chris Crispel wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Hi Tootle:
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I'm here on "the list" because I have been taken with the
>>>>> Rhodes
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 22
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> but
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> have
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> a major question that needs to be put to the members of
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 'the
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> list".
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> My wife and I will be moving to the Republic of Panama to
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> make
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> it
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> our
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> future
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> home. As you may know, there are no bays (to speak of) or
>>>>> lakes,
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> just
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> ocean. My question is multifaceted- have any of you 
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> sailed
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> offshore
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> in
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Rhodes?, how does she handle ocean swells, what
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> adjustments
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> (modifications)
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> would you make to increase safety and comfort aboard. 
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Yes,
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I
>>>>> do
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> know
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> that
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> one can sail in a cork, but who wants to be battered 
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> about
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> in
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>>>>> >> >> >> ocean.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I have been sailing since the age of 16 and now I'm way,
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> way,
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> beyond
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> that.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I am a highly experienced sailor and my common sea sense
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> is
>>>>> that
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> this
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> vessel
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> is to small and subject to being tossed about like a 
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> cork.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> So,
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> please
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> tell
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> me that I am wrong and making to much out of this.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I currently reside in Ashland, Oregon and would love to
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> meet
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> other
>>>>>> >> >> >> owners
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> and their vessels. California and Oregon are the States
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> where
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> that
>>>>>> >> >> >> would
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> be
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> possible. However, if I can't meet everyone, then I will
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> have
>>>>> to
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> be
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> satisfied with "the list".
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Many Thanks
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Chris Crispel
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> From: "Tootle"
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> To:
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:42 AM
>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Chris,
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Welcome to the Rhodes List. Now, just who are you? And
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> where
>>>>> ya
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> be?
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> And
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> why ya here?
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Ed K
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> fishin' is like a box of chocolate.. u never no what 
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> your
>>>>> gonna
>>>>>> >> >> >> catch..
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> and
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> sometimes you catch nothing! Unattributed
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> --
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> View this message in context:
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> http://www.nabble.com/Chris-Crispel-tp15022481p15022481.html
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> > --
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>>>>>> >> >> >> > http://www.nabble.com/Chris-Crispel-tp15022481p15034016.html
>>>>>> >> >> >> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at 
>>>>>> >> >> >> > Nabble.com.
>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________
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