[Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
James Barron
jbarron1 at cinci.rr.com
Fri Jan 25 16:12:16 EST 2008
Stan:
Very interesting. I would love to know more about the tiller lock system.
I had been thinking of "mushfaking" one like I had on my last boat.
Can your new one be purchased from you? And do you have any descriptive
information about it?
JB
-----Original Message-----
From: stan
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 5:00 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
if you are talking about new boats we now have 4 docking cleats so no need
for bow chocks, a new two tone nonskid deck, the electric motor lift now
also tilts the motor for better water clearance when under sail and
slightly
deeper prop when under motor, the keel is little longer for slightly more
ballast and a little better pointing ability, a heavier duty rudder
hardware
design for guys who insist on going to Bimini in a 22, a better tiller
lock
system for sailing when not at the tiller, a lighter finished interior, a
prettier cabin door for dockside admiration after the crew has left for the
day and other items I have forgotten - nothing major so go for the bigger
boat - we will get you on your way down.
ss
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
> Stan:
>
> Could you respond to the second part of my question relative to changes
> that
> have been made in the past two and a half years.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>
>
>> yes - every night.
>>
>> never sure about Jack London's park - like going cause our kid lives in
>> Santa Cruz but bringing a boat back with these gas prices !
>>
>> ss
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 1:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>
>>
>>> Stan:
>>>
>>> Do you plan to be at Sail Pacific in April? If you are would love to
>>> spend
>>> some quality time with you.
>>>
>>> Stan, it has been about two years since we chatted last. Have you made
>>> any
>>> improvements to the boat in the last two years.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 8:44 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>
>>>
>>>>I might point out that Chris is the noted skipper sailing his old
Rhodes
>>>>in
>>>> the cover illustration of one of the latest books that they insist
>>>> publishing about the Rhodes. In this book the author, who is a
>>>> Catalina
>>>> man, waxes on to say, "From the deep blue ocean to shallow coves, the
>>>> Rhodes
>>>> covers it all.".
>>>>
>>>> ss
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 11:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Your on! Will give you a call tomorrow.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Chris Geankoplis" <napoli68 at charter.net>
>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:06 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Aw Chris,
>>>>>> What a bummer, I just opened my email after a bit of
a
>>>>>> haietus to find a felow (well potential) Rhodie right next door from
>>>>>> Medford
>>>>>> where I live. Tell you what, I'll try to change your mind AND I buy
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> beer at Standing Stone. Give me a call at 857-1061 anytime after 6
>>>>>> pm.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have a lot of sailing experience and have admitidly pushed the
limits
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> boat but didn't find them, well maybe that one time with the
>>>>>> tornado........
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris Geankoplis
>>>>>> Medford, OR
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Chris Crispel" <ccrispel at jeffnet.org>
>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:44 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, Robert, unfortunately it looks that way. Not enough boat for
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> intended use.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Robert Skinner" <robert at squirrelhaven.com>
>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 5:16 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Chris, given what you have laid out as
>>>>>>> > requirements, and the nature and depth
>>>>>>> > of your objections, it appears that you
>>>>>>> > have ruled out the Rhodes 22. Is that
>>>>>>> > the case?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > /Robert
>>>>>>> > ---------------------------------------
>>>>>>> > Chris Crispel wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Hi Mary Lou:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Most of the vessels that ply that country are at least 27'
>>>>>>> >> vessels,
>>>>>>> >> usually
>>>>>>> >> with a cutaway full keel, or a fin keel with a lot of lead in
the
>>>>>>> >> fin.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thanks
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Chris
>>>>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> >> From: "Mary Lou Troy" <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
>>>>>>> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:46 AM
>>>>>>> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] small boat sailing Re: Chris Crispel
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> > Chris,
>>>>>>> >> > A few more thoughts.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > I think Steve (Slim) makes a good distinction between two
kinds
>>>>>>> >> > of
>>>>>>> >> > sailing. Do you want a small trailerable boat with its
>>>>>>> >> > attendant
>>>>>>> >> > characteristics or do you want a more solid ocean going boat
>>>>>>> >> > that
>>>>>>> >> > is
>>>>>>> >> > less trailerable. (Most boats under 40ft. are transportable if
>>>>>>> >> > you
>>>>>>> >> > have access to a crane (on both sides of the country) and a
>>>>>>> >> > flatbed.
>>>>>>> >> > The real consideration in my mind is how far you have to go
and
>>>>>>> >> > likely are you to get caught out in real weather - your
>>>>>>> >> > definition
>>>>>>> >> > but in my mind "real weather" does NOT include the passing
>>>>>>> >> > squall.
>>>>>>> >> > If
>>>>>>> >> > you remember Paul Cleavenger's description of his capsize he
>>>>>>> >> > says
>>>>>>> >> > that had he been able to get the bow into the wind he might
>>>>>>> >> > have
>>>>>>> >> > weathered even the microburst. Note that the wave that
capsized
>>>>>>> >> > him
>>>>>>> >> > built in a shallow river. I don't know the depths where you
>>>>>>> >> > might
>>>>>>> >> > be
>>>>>>> >> > sailing but in true ocean depths waves won't build in a short
>>>>>>> >> > squall.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > I think the question for you may be how likely are you to get
>>>>>>> >> > caught
>>>>>>> >> > out in weather systems that raise the winds above 25 knots for
>>>>>>> >> > a
>>>>>>> >> > day
>>>>>>> >> > at a time? Wind blowing 25 knots for 24 hours or more will
>>>>>>> >> > build
>>>>>>> >> > up
>>>>>>> >> > bigger waves than a sudden brief squall. Somewhere between 20
>>>>>>> >> > and
>>>>>>> >> > 30
>>>>>>> >> > knots, the Rhodes becomes less able to tack into the wind.
The
>>>>>>> >> > windage of the flared hull, the freeboard and rigging combine
>>>>>>> >> > with
>>>>>>> >> > the larger waves throwing you about and it all catches up to
>>>>>>> >> > you.
>>>>>>> >> > If
>>>>>>> >> > you are sailing on the ocean, what are the distances between
>>>>>>> >> > you
>>>>>>> >> > and
>>>>>>> >> > a safe harbor? Would you have enough notice of a weather
system
>>>>>>> >> > coming in to get there?
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > We sail all over the Chesapeake in our Rhodes. Weather
>>>>>>> >> > forecasting
>>>>>>> >> > and delivery of weather information is good. We can pick our
>>>>>>> >> > weather
>>>>>>> >> > windows. Safe harbors are never more than 8 hours away.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > What do folks who sail your prospective cruising grounds sail?
>>>>>>> >> > Are
>>>>>>> >> > there boats under 30 ft? If folks are sailing newer small
>>>>>>> >> > Catalinas
>>>>>>> >> > and Hunters, they are probably not much more seaworthy than
the
>>>>>>> >> > Rhodes.We spend a lot of time with folks with bigger boats and
>>>>>>> >> > while
>>>>>>> >> > we are perhaps more cautious where the weather is concerned
>>>>>>> >> > (our
>>>>>>> >> > motto is "why get beat up if you don't have to?"), we don't
>>>>>>> >> > miss
>>>>>>> >> > much. For the most part we find that when we stay in because
of
>>>>>>> >> > the
>>>>>>> >> > wind and waves, our friends in Catalinas stay in as well. Some
>>>>>>> >> > of
>>>>>>> >> > our
>>>>>>> >> > friends in Island Packets or the guy with the Heritage West
>>>>>>> >> > Indies
>>>>>>> >> > 34
>>>>>>> >> > will go out in higher winds and be comfortable.
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > Again best of luck with your decision,
>>>>>>> >> > Mary Lou
>>>>>>> >> > 1991 R22 Fretless
>>>>>>> >> > Rock Hall, MD
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> > At 09:48 AM 1/23/2008, you wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>Steven:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >>You have given sound advice. I was just about to pack it in
>>>>>>> >> >>when
>>>>>>> >> >>I
>>>>>>> >> >>received
>>>>>>> >> >>your e-mail. Of course your right and will proceed
cautiously.
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >>Thanks Again
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >>Chris
>>>>>>> >> >>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> >> >>From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> >> >>To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>> >> >>Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 2:51 AM
>>>>>>> >> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> > Chris,
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > I think it all depends on how you like to sail. Obviously
>>>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>>>> >> >> > R22
>>>>>>> >> >> > is
>>>>>>> >> >> > much
>>>>>>> >> >> > more tender than a full keel boat like the Dana, Flicka,
>>>>>>> >> >> > Cape
>>>>>> Dory,
>>>>>>> >> >> > whatever, but I've been caught in high winds and have been
>>>>>>> >> >> > way
>>>>>>> >> >> > over-powered
>>>>>>> >> >> > and dunked my rails and shipped water into the cockpit many
>>>>>>> >> >> > times.
>>>>>>> >> >> > If
>>>>>>> >> >> > you
>>>>>>> >> >> > don't mind riding a spirited horse then you'll be fine.
The
>>>>>>> >> >> > boat
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> >> >> > seaworthy as hell but in high winds, you're in for some "X
>>>>>> sailing."
>>>>>>> >> >> > Secure
>>>>>>> >> >> > your gear and sail her like a laser. I'm fine with that
and
>>>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>>>> >> >> > boat's
>>>>>>> >> >> > fine
>>>>>>> >> >> > with that, but the Mrs. doesn't like it that much. Therein
>>>>>>> >> >> > lies
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> >> >> > question: What does the Mrs. want? I've finally learned
to
>>>>>>> >> >> > reef
>>>>>>> >> >> > way
>>>>>>> >> >> > the
>>>>>>> >> >> > hell in and sail upright in high winds and keep the crew
>>>>>>> >> >> > happy
>>>>>>> >> >> > and
>>>>>>> >> >> > safe.
>>>>>>> >> >> > This is the beauty of the Rhodes IMF with furling
>>>>>>> >> >> > Genny--infinite
>>>>>>> >> >> > reefing
>>>>>>> >> >> > capabilities.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > That said, the highest wind you can comfortably sail the
R22
>>>>>>> >> >> > in
>>>>>>> >> >> > is
>>>>>>> >> >> > about
>>>>>>> >> >> > 27. Beyond that the hull has too much windage to tack
>>>>>>> >> >> > about.
>>>>>>> >> >> > In
>>>>>>> >> >> > that
>>>>>>> >> >> > case
>>>>>>> >> >> > you have to jibe about, but you can still make way. And if
>>>>>>> >> >> > you're
>>>>>>> >> >> > going
>>>>>>> >> >> > downwind, you'll be a happy guy!
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > As for toughness, the R22 has 9 stays--each with it's own
>>>>>>> >> >> > chainplate.
>>>>>>> >> >> > You
>>>>>>> >> >> > could lose any two and the mast would still stand.
>>>>>> Ummm...probably.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > You said you are enamored by the Rhodes (as well you should
>>>>>>> >> >> > be)
>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> >> >> > her
>>>>>>> >> >> > many
>>>>>>> >> >> > great features. You said you want to explore the
>>>>>>> >> >> > islands--with
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> >> >> > combination keel of the Rhodes you can easily beach your
>>>>>>> >> >> > boat
>>>>>>> >> >> > on
>>>>>>> >> >> > those
>>>>>>> >> >> > islands. You certainly can't do that with a full keel.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > You're an experienced sailor and you know big WX can f**k
>>>>>>> >> >> > you
>>>>>>> >> >> > up
>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> >> >> > matter
>>>>>>> >> >> > what boat you're on. Examine your needs and wants and ask
>>>>>>> >> >> > more
>>>>>>> >> >> > questions
>>>>>>> >> >> > here.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > Re Panama, the San Blas are on the Caribbean side which is
>>>>>>> >> >> > far
>>>>>> more
>>>>>>> >> >> > calm
>>>>>>> >> >> > than the Pacific. I think you'd be fine with the R22.
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > Slim
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> > On Jan 23, 2008 12:50 AM, john Belanger
<jhnblngr at yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> i have to ask a question. why are you buying a boat here
>>>>>>> >> >> >> and
>>>>>> taking
>>>>>>> >> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> >> to
>>>>>>> >> >> >> panama? are you sailing it to panama, shipping it or
>>>>>>> >> >> >> driving
>>>>>>> >> >> >> down
>>>>>>> >> >> >> with
>>>>>>> >> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> >> on
>>>>>>> >> >> >> a trailer? i may have missed part of your explanation,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> somewhere
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> >> >> >> sorry,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> i
>>>>>>> >> >> >> just don't get it. are you going to be on the atlantic or
>>>>>> pacific
>>>>>>> >> >> >> side?
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Chris Crispel <ccrispel at jeffnet.org> wrote: You mean like
>>>>>>> >> >> >> a
>>>>>>> >> >> >> larger,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> heavier boat with a diesel engine and prop (under
>>>>>>> >> >> >> the hull)
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> thanks, you and others are helping me make a decision.
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Chris
>>>>>>> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> >> >> >> From: "Just bent"
>>>>>>> >> >> >> To:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 7:10 PM
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Chris,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > I have not been sailing long but I have been out in some
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > big
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > weather
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > in
>>>>>>> >> >> >> my
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > R22, (on a lake) and the one thing that was a problem
for
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > me
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>>>> >> >> >> motor
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > hanging off the back of the boat. I was rolling so much
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>>> prop
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > would
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > come
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > out of the water. I remember thinking it might be better
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > if
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > the
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > prop
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > was
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > under the boat.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Jb
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Just bent
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Chris Crispel wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Hi Tootle:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I'm here on "the list" because I have been taken with
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>>>>> Rhodes
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 22
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> but
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> have
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> a major question that needs to be put to the members of
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> 'the
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> list".
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> My wife and I will be moving to the Republic of Panama
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> to
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> make
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> it
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> our
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> future
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> home. As you may know, there are no bays (to speak of)
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> or
>>>>>> lakes,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> just
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> ocean. My question is multifaceted- have any of you
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> sailed
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> offshore
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> in
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Rhodes?, how does she handle ocean swells, what
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> adjustments
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> (modifications)
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> would you make to increase safety and comfort aboard.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Yes,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I
>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> know
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> that
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> one can sail in a cork, but who wants to be battered
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> about
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> in
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> the
>>>>>>> >> >> >> ocean.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I have been sailing since the age of 16 and now I'm
way,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> way,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> beyond
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> that.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I am a highly experienced sailor and my common sea
sense
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> is
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> this
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> vessel
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> is to small and subject to being tossed about like a
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> cork.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> So,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> please
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> tell
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> me that I am wrong and making to much out of this.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> I currently reside in Ashland, Oregon and would love to
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> meet
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> other
>>>>>>> >> >> >> owners
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> and their vessels. California and Oregon are the States
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> where
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> that
>>>>>>> >> >> >> would
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> be
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> possible. However, if I can't meet everyone, then I
will
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> have
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> be
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> satisfied with "the list".
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Many Thanks
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Chris Crispel
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> From: "Tootle"
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> To:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 8:42 AM
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Chris Crispel
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Chris,
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Welcome to the Rhodes List. Now, just who are you? And
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> where
>>>>>> ya
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> be?
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> And
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> why ya here?
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Ed K
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> fishin' is like a box of chocolate.. u never no what
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> your
>>>>>> gonna
>>>>>>> >> >> >> catch..
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> and
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> sometimes you catch nothing! Unattributed
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> --
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
http://www.nabble.com/Chris-Crispel-tp15022481p15022481.html
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> Nabble.com.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>> __________________________________________________
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>>>>>>> >> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > --
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>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
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>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > Nabble.com.
>>>>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >> > __________________________________________________
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