[Rhodes22-list] Political -A Reply To A Politician Seeking Office- #1

Tootle ekroposki at charter.net
Sun Jan 27 08:08:23 EST 2008



Bob,

I will not attempt to write an inclusive reply to your post.  Your post
actually has one or two points that I agree with.  But as you anticipate
many that I cannot.

My opinion emanates from my perspective on how America achieved economic
success.  I also understand that I have always seen the world different than
most.

I have studied economics more than most subjects because I innately
understand the points that the others try to make.  I can also anticipate
the likely results of that line of reasoning.  I have had specific
background and understand statistics.  Statistics is merely a tool to
understand what has happened, is happening and under similar conditions will
likely happen in the future.
  
This is where I come from on the subjects of socialism, capitalism, charity,
obligation, helping others, etc.
You mentioned the subject of health care and government’s role in providing
a floor.  I have personally seen how your proposed floor works.  While
occasionally the results are good, just as often the results are deleterious
and wasteful.  Too make everybody pay, contribute to that debacle is wrong,
it is totalitarianism.  If people want to contribute as a charity, that is
their free choice.  But to compel every person to contribute is dictatorship
and evil.  It is also known as communism.
  
Europe is very illustrative of socialism in its various designs and results
thereof.  Socialism is advocated by many well educated and well intentioned
people in USA.  They believe that they can choose the best parts of
socialism and make them work in America.
  
They and you strongly advocate their positions.  In fact those opinions
control the formerly free press in America.
  
However, those views are not those that the American democratic republic was
founded on.  Change as advocated by Barack Obama simply states that freedom
must give way to socialism.  The change advocated by the liberal press is
saying the freedoms espoused by those who wrote the Declaration of
Independence and Constitution are no longer valid.
  
I disagree because those freedoms created the highest standard of living the
world has ever known.  That standard of living does not result in equal
results to all.  As a system it does not guarantee a floor of health care to
all.  If you want a health care floor to all then create a charity that will
provide it.  But do not use dictatorial powers of government to compel it.

Eastern European socialism has failed because a dictatorial system results
in corruption.  The medical floor for heath care that you espouse leads not
only to corruption, but to deleterious applications of medical treatments.   
Those treatments and procedures are ordered because the medical doctors
order those treatments solely because they can or the family demands them
under threats to the docotor, not because the results of those therapies
have been adequately analyzed.

In summary you are advocating socialism.  If you want to live under
socialism go to a socialist country.

Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
"The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred
as the laws of God, and there is not a force of law and public justice to
protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence. Property must be sacred or liberty
cannot exist." - John Adams 




Robert Skinner wrote:
> 
> This is a message that I sent to a person seeking to be a US
> congresswoman for/from the state of Maine.  As you can see,
> I do not regard a party platform as sacrosanct.
> 
> OK, Brad, Ed, Herb, etc.  Have a field day!
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> "Tell Chellie what you think Congress's top priority should be."
> 
> Chellie, 
> 
> I don't think we should allow ourselves to focus on any issue 
> to the exclusion of others, so I will reply by ranking  your
> suggested issues.
> 
> 1.  Iraq - stop the hemorrhage of blood and treasure, let the
>     religious zealots slug it out.  Concentrate on control of 
>     nukes, access to oil in the short term, and point actions 
>     against Al-Qaeda to keep their heads down.
> 
> 2.  Health care - Rationalize the chaotic patchwork of health 
>     care in the US.  While there must be limits of what can be 
>     provided as the basic floor under all US citizens, it is 
>     essential that there be some minimum of health care for 
>     all.
> 
> 3.  Economy - Set some controls on off-shoring of jobs.  Limit 
>     immigration - fences, passports, etc.  Stop providing 
>     welfare and other US citizen's basic support to illegal 
>     immigrants.  Eliminate tax loopholes for the rich and make 
>     tax laws understandable for all.  Reconsider the 
>     implementation and consequences of NAFTA.
> 
> 4.  Other (please write in the box below)
> 
>     Develop alternative energy sources - wind, hydro, solar, 
>     biodiesel, switchgrass ethanol, LNG - in that order.  Tax
>     petroleum products and and use the proceeds exclusively 
>     to subsidize development of alternatives.  We cheaped our 
>     way into this mess, and we will have to work ourselves 
>     out - painfully.
> 
> 5.  Global climate change
> 
>     I do not regard "Global climate change" as something that 
>     the US government can (or should) deal with unilaterally.
>     It may be irreversible, so the rate of change and dealing 
>     with consequences are the issues - sea level rise,
>     desertification, etc.
> 
>     On an international level, we need to plan the relocation 
>     of people living in delta and other lowland areas prone to 
>     flooding.  Bangladesh and New Orleans come to mind, as do
>     all the major seaports around the world.
> 
>     We must also (for the sake of our health and economy) work 
>     on limiting our dependence on non-renewable resources in 
>     the US.  Biodiesel, wind power, tidal pool generators, etc.
>     all need attention.
> 
>     But I also think that the developing countries will need to
>     use petroleum resources while they implement alternatives -
>     ones that (hopefully) result from our lead in such 
>     endeavors.  
> 
>     Perhaps we need an Energy Corps - like the Peace Corps of
>     the last century.
> 
> -- 
> Robert Skinner, 9 Gateway Commons, Gorham, Maine 04038-1331
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