[Rhodes22-list] Sta Bil has new product for outboards!

Wed Jul 16 13:27:01 EDT 2008

Art,

I agree. I used to dispose of the 2-3 gallons of 50:1 mix (for my 2-cycle) 
left in the tank at the end of the season at the local recycler, but they no 
longer accept gasoline products.  It is certainly cheaper to throw it away 
or use it as firepit starter than to attempt to preserve it, although that 
is not "green" any longer.  In addition, the marketing info appears to 
indicate that marine applications require the use of a stabilizer during the 
season as well.  So, get out the eyedroppers for the Sta-Bil.  What would we 
use to mix the more concentrated products?

Let me see, 8 oz per 80 gals, 3 gals need 0.3 oz!  Using Google.com, "0.3 fl 
oz in teaspoon" yields "0.3 US fluid ounces = 1.8 US teaspoons" or in 
metric, about 9 cc (use a syringe.)  Actually, that's not half bad since I 
have 10 cc syringes.  3 cc per gallon.

BTW, how long is Sta-Bil good for?  Do you need a stabilizer for Sta-Bil? 
It will take me years to go through the 8oz bottle.

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY

From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>Sent: Wednesday, July 
16, 2008 12:25 PM
> Mike,
> I really have to laugh - here we are in our Rhodes, sipping two-three 
> gallons per year, trying to mix Sta Bil at 8oz per 80 gallons in a 3 
> gallon tank.  An eyedropper application!
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
>>Sent: Jul 16, 2008 11:36 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Sta Bil has new product for outboards!
>>
>>Art,
>>
>>Sta-Bil is less expensive at Defender (www.defender.com p/n:751633, 
>>$11.95,
>>8oz=80gals.)
>>
>>You might also want to investigate the following:
>>    MDR E-Zorb Fuel Stabilizer  #300047    16oz (320 gals)    $14.71
>>(Defender)
>>    Pri-G Gasoline Treatment      #1444900  16oz (256 gals)    $23.99 
>> (West
>>Marine)
>>
>>The Pri-G also claims to refresh old fuel to "refinery fresh" by 
>>preventing
>>gum and varnish formation as well as treating the phase separation noted 
>>in
>>E-10.  They claim storage capability of years
>>(http://www.priproducts.com/prigproduct.htm .)  E-Zorb claims to emulsify
>>ethanol and water so that they may be burned.  Most reviews of E-Zorb and
>>Sta-Bil note that the fuel should be consumed within 60 days, although 
>>both
>>are sold for "winterizing" fuel.  All are compatible with 2- and 4-cycle
>>engines.
>>
>>The cautions regarding the use of ethanol mixes in marine applications 
>>come
>>down to this:
>>
>>    1.    Ethanol is a great solvent and may dissolve old varnish and gum 
>> in
>>the
>>                system (tank, hoses, engine, etc.)  We used to call this 
>> an
>>"engine
>>                cleaning gasoline" (remember the Mobil washing machine?)
>>After
>>                a few tanks of E-10, your fuel system will be ethanol 
>> clean.
>>Until then
>>                most manufacturers recommend filter changes at 10-20 hours
>>of operation.
>>
>>    2.    Ethanol may dissolve fuel system components such as hoses and
>>certain
>>                poorly made fiberglass tanks.  Since 1980, the USCG has
>>required all
>>                marine components (hoses, seals, etc.) to be ethanol or
>>alcohol compatible.
>>                If you use a plastic fuel tank all should be fine.  If in
>>doubt, buy new
>>                hoses (or tank.)
>>
>>    3.    Ethanol mixes attract water vapor and separate from the 
>> gasoline.
>>                To remedy this, pick up the tank and mix the fuel 
>> regularly
>>to prevent.
>>                If concerned, use one of the above stabilizers.
>>
>>Since most of us use our engines for infrequent short runs and keep fuel 
>>for
>>next year, the use of a stabilizer product such as Pri-G may be the best
>>solution.
>>
>>Mike
>>s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>Nissequogue River, NY
>>
>>
>>From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>Sent: Wednesday, July
>>16, 2008 10:05 AM
>>> Thanks, Ed.  This really helpful.  I found it in stock, no problem, at
>>> West.  Their product# is 9240227.
>>> Art
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>>>>Sent: Jul 16, 2008 9:12 AM
>>>>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Sta Bil has new product for outboards!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>See this:
>>>>
>>>>http://www.sta-bil.com/sta-bil/stabil_marine.htm
>>>>
>>>>They must monitor this list.  Recalling some discussions in the past.
>>>>
>>>>Ed K
>>>>Greenville, SC, USA
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