[Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02

R22RumRunner at aol.com R22RumRunner at aol.com
Wed Jun 18 08:50:44 EDT 2008


Slim,
You have to understand that going below, mixing a drink and getting back to  
the helm prior to broaching is a real challenge. It's probably one of the few  
that I have yet to conquer with the Rhodes22.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 6/18/2008 2:07:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
stevenalm at gmail.com writes:

John,  you're missing the point.  A fresh drink should be served as  a
bartender would serve it.  Fresh ice, rum and mix--or  whatever.

Rummy, my friend, learn to heave to.  It's the best way  to briefly take a
little break and do what needs to be done.  Are you  in a hurry or
something?  It's easier than fussing with locking the  tiller down and
trimming the sails perfectly so everything is balanced and  you can go
below.  Although I admit that's a worthy  challenge.

Slim

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM, KUHN, LELAND  <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:

>
> "I learn something new every  time I go out."  If an experienced sailor
> feels that way, it  convinces me that I will never get bored of sailing.
> Perfect total  boat adjustment for all conditions would be impossible to
> experience,  much less learn and remember.  It's got to be one of the
> easiest  sports to learn and the absolute hardest to master.
>
> I took out  a calculator and started doing the math.
>
> If you conservatively  should make an adjustment for every 10 degree
> directional change and  every knot of wind change; and then factor in
> different combinations  of current, chop, headsail, mainsail,
> centerboard, tiller, traveler,  boom height, alcohol consumption, mast
> rake, stay tention, and all  standing/running rigging; then you would
> need to learn and remember  over 99,999,999.99 adjustments.  I don't know
> how much more  because my calculator maxed out.  I'm just now discovering
> the  impact of adjusting the loose foot of the main.
>
> Now if I only  had a boom vang.
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22  At  Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com  [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:31  PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
>
> Bill,
> Learning the Rhodes22  is a wonderful experience. Forget almost
> everything
> you ever  knew about sailing and try sailing her with the equipment that
>  Stan
> puts on her. The sails have so many adjustments that it will  take
> several years
> until you reach a comfort level where you  will want to change sails
> around.
> The  175 is a great  sail with many adjustments. I learn something new
> every
> time I  go  out. Just when I think I have it mastered, something comes up
>  and
> reminds me  that I still have a lot to learn. The hardest  thing for me
> is to go
> below and  mix a drink while still  under full sails single handing. I'm
> fast,
> but not quite   fast enough.
>
> Rummy :)
>
>
> In a message  dated 6/16/2008 3:18:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>  wpdavidge at gmail.com writes:
>
> ED
>
> I'm not sure  about JIm Or Jhon But I do like to change  sails .That 's
>  one
> of the reason I have  the Rhodes ..I'm just looking  for  the Sail that
> woks
> Best for me .
> By the way You are  right  when you tell people to ck with Rummy. His
>  instructions  are right on  but not everyone can Sail at the same  level
> that
> He can ,or at least I  can't ,,Yet !
>  Ed don't discount Your advise. It's also right on just  a little  blunt
> at
> times .
>
>
> Thanks    Bill  Davidge
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at  7:13 PM, Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
>  >
> > Jim:
> >
> >  I said, "Ask Captain  Rummy for his detailed instructions and
> comments."
>  >
> > See, he gave you the best advice  yet.
>  >
> >
> > R22RumRunner wrote:
> > >
>  > >  Jim,
> > > Forget about changing sails. Order the  boat with the 175  genoa and
> learn
> > > how
>  > > to adjust the sail(s) for the  conditions. Screwing around  with
> multiple
> > > sails is a waste of  precious  sailing and drinking time.
> > >
> > > Rummy
>  >  >
> > > If you were a racer you would not even be  asking these  questions.
> So
> > > follow Rummy's  advice.  Get the most  versitile sail and go
>  sailing...
> > >
> > > Ed K
> > >   Greenville, SC, USA
> > > Addendum:  "A chicken crossing the  road  is poultry in motion."
> > >
> > > In a  message dated 6/14/2008  7:25:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >  > jamesldickson at aol.com  writes:
> > >
> >  >
> > > HI  Ed,
> > >  Thanks for the  reply -
> > >
> > > Mary Lou's information was   very helpful  as well - Thanks. I'm
> buying the
> > >  boat through  Stan - 1991 recycled- should  be available at the  of
> the
> > >  month.
> > > The furler  that is currently on the boat  is the GBI  Factory
> Version  and
> > I
> > > won't be looking to change Genoa   sizes  often.
> > >
> > > But because I sail on a  lake with  summer light winds I requested  a
> Genoa
>  > > 150. The 170 is just  too big for the lake winds I sail on -  it
> would be
> > > reefed  in more than 75% of the  time. So it needs to be made
> special
> >  order
>  > > which won't be ready by the time I'm scheduled to go down   to  pick
> up the
> > > boat.
> > >
>  > > Stan is  going to give me an old 170 to take home  until  the 150 can
> be
> >  > shipped to me. Which means I  need to replace the  Genoa's. Although
> I
> >  been
> > > sailing since I was a kid. I have had the   same  ODay Javelin that
> has
> > been
> > >  in
> > > our  family since 74. I have never sailed   anything larger than 19'
> and
> > > nothing with anytype of  Furler. Just nervous  about  changing.
> > >
>  > > I've sent an email to Stan to see if it's  too late to   change to
> the CDI
> > > version - this would  actually  make it easier to change. I  might
> even  see
> > > if
> > >  I can purchase the old 170  from Stan for times when we  take the
> boat
> > >  camping
> > > and to the NJ Shore where there will be  more  wind and  the 170
> would make
> > > more  sense.
> >  >
> > > But just in case I can't get  the CDI  furler on it I  want to find
> out how
> >  > difficult it will be to make a one  time  replacement of the  old 170
> to my
> > > new
> > > 150.  Again  with the understanding that  I'm by no means anytype of
>
>  master
> > > sailor or great with do it yourself   repairs.
> >  >
> > > Thanks in advance for your  advice and help.
> >  >
> > > Jim
> >  > New  rhodes owner
> > >  Quakertown PA
> >  >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >   >
> > >
> > > Tootle wrote:
> >  >>
> > >>  JimJim02
> > >>
>  > >> You said that you were purchasing a  Rhodes  22.   Is this from
> General
> > >> Boats?
> >   >>
> > >> As to changing  the foresale, it depends  as  Mary Lou said which
> furler
> > >> you
>  > >>  have.   That is if the boat has a furler.   If you are  purchasing
> that
> > >> 1973
>  > >> that was posted for  sale, it may be a hank on.
>  > >>
> > >>  Mary Lou  pointed out the GBI  factory design, CDI, and SnapFurl.
> There
> >  >>  are
> > >> even more brands.  So if you are getting  a  boat thru GBI,  call
> and ask
> > >> what  is on the boat  now.  Stan ususally does not  change  the
> furler
> > >>  unless
> > >> it  is broken.  So if the boat has an  older  CDI, that is what  you
> will
> > >> get.
> > >>
>  >  >> Harkin makes one of the  best system and  charges  accordingly.  It
>
> allows
> >  >> changing  foresales on the  run.  It allows hoisting a  second sail
> while
> > >>  using  the  first.  It even allow using two sails at the same time,
>  as
> >  in
> > >> wing on wing.
> >  >>
> >  >> So understand, more information is   required to answer your
> question.
> > >> Suggest you  get a three ring binder  to keep  notes of your
>  questions,
> > >> answers and other   information.   It will get filled up quickly.
> >   >>
> > >> Ed K
> > >> Greenville,  SC,   USA
> > >> Addendum:  "boltrope - strong  rope stitched to edges  of a  sail"
> > >>
>  > >
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