[Rhodes22-list] Rummy's way of sailing was Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
Tootle
ekroposki at charter.net
Wed Jun 18 11:49:05 EDT 2008
Robert,
You really need to sail with Rummy to understand that while you offered
great suggestions, when you sail with one rail in the water, things change
quickly. You have been on this forum to have heard of the one time he left
the tiller to a Rookey so he could pour another one.
Ed K
Greenville, SC, USA
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Robert Skinner wrote:
>
> And I guess that an autopilot would be cheating, Rummy?
> How about a wind vane? Bungee on the main sheet?
>
> /Robert
>
> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Slim,
>> You have to understand that going below, mixing a drink and getting back
>> to
>> the helm prior to broaching is a real challenge. It's probably one of the
>> few
>> that I have yet to conquer with the Rhodes22.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 6/18/2008 2:07:15 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> stevenalm at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> John, you're missing the point. A fresh drink should be served as a
>> bartender would serve it. Fresh ice, rum and mix--or whatever.
>>
>> Rummy, my friend, learn to heave to. It's the best way to briefly take
>> a
>> little break and do what needs to be done. Are you in a hurry or
>> something? It's easier than fussing with locking the tiller down and
>> trimming the sails perfectly so everything is balanced and you can go
>> below. Although I admit that's a worthy challenge.
>>
>> Slim
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM, KUHN, LELAND <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > "I learn something new every time I go out." If an experienced sailor
>> > feels that way, it convinces me that I will never get bored of
>> sailing.
>> > Perfect total boat adjustment for all conditions would be impossible
>> to
>> > experience, much less learn and remember. It's got to be one of the
>> > easiest sports to learn and the absolute hardest to master.
>> >
>> > I took out a calculator and started doing the math.
>> >
>> > If you conservatively should make an adjustment for every 10 degree
>> > directional change and every knot of wind change; and then factor in
>> > different combinations of current, chop, headsail, mainsail,
>> > centerboard, tiller, traveler, boom height, alcohol consumption, mast
>> > rake, stay tention, and all standing/running rigging; then you would
>> > need to learn and remember over 99,999,999.99 adjustments. I don't
>> know
>> > how much more because my calculator maxed out. I'm just now
>> discovering
>> > the impact of adjusting the loose foot of the main.
>> >
>> > Now if I only had a boom vang.
>> >
>> > Lee
>> > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
>> > Kent Island, MD
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: R22RumRunner at aol.com [mailto:R22RumRunner at aol.com]
>> > Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 7:31 PM
>> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Chosing Genoa by jimjim02
>> >
>> > Bill,
>> > Learning the Rhodes22 is a wonderful experience. Forget almost
>> > everything
>> > you ever knew about sailing and try sailing her with the equipment
>> that
>> > Stan
>> > puts on her. The sails have so many adjustments that it will take
>> > several years
>> > until you reach a comfort level where you will want to change sails
>> > around.
>> > The 175 is a great sail with many adjustments. I learn something new
>> > every
>> > time I go out. Just when I think I have it mastered, something comes
>> up
>> > and
>> > reminds me that I still have a lot to learn. The hardest thing for me
>> > is to go
>> > below and mix a drink while still under full sails single handing.
>> I'm
>> > fast,
>> > but not quite fast enough.
>> >
>> > Rummy :)
>> >
>> >
>> > In a message dated 6/16/2008 3:18:55 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > wpdavidge at gmail.com writes:
>> >
>> > ED
>> >
>> > I'm not sure about JIm Or Jhon But I do like to change sails .That 's
>> > one
>> > of the reason I have the Rhodes ..I'm just looking for the Sail that
>> > woks
>> > Best for me .
>> > By the way You are right when you tell people to ck with Rummy. His
>> > instructions are right on but not everyone can Sail at the same
>> level
>> > that
>> > He can ,or at least I can't ,,Yet !
>> > Ed don't discount Your advise. It's also right on just a little
>> blunt
>> > at
>> > times .
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks Bill Davidge
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 7:13 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Jim:
>> > >
>> > > I said, "Ask Captain Rummy for his detailed instructions and
>> > comments."
>> > >
>> > > See, he gave you the best advice yet.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > R22RumRunner wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Jim,
>> > > > Forget about changing sails. Order the boat with the 175 genoa
>> and
>> > learn
>> > > > how
>> > > > to adjust the sail(s) for the conditions. Screwing around with
>> > multiple
>> > > > sails is a waste of precious sailing and drinking time.
>> > > >
>> > > > Rummy
>> > > >
>> > > > If you were a racer you would not even be asking these questions.
>> > So
>> > > > follow Rummy's advice. Get the most versitile sail and go
>> > sailing...
>> > > >
>> > > > Ed K
>> > > > Greenville, SC, USA
>> > > > Addendum: "A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion."
>> > > >
>> > > > In a message dated 6/14/2008 7:25:12 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > > > jamesldickson at aol.com writes:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > HI Ed,
>> > > > Thanks for the reply -
>> > > >
>> > > > Mary Lou's information was very helpful as well - Thanks. I'm
>> > buying the
>> > > > boat through Stan - 1991 recycled- should be available at the
>> of
>> > the
>> > > > month.
>> > > > The furler that is currently on the boat is the GBI Factory
>> > Version and
>> > > I
>> > > > won't be looking to change Genoa sizes often.
>> > > >
>> > > > But because I sail on a lake with summer light winds I requested
>> a
>> > Genoa
>> > > > 150. The 170 is just too big for the lake winds I sail on - it
>> > would be
>> > > > reefed in more than 75% of the time. So it needs to be made
>> > special
>> > > order
>> > > > which won't be ready by the time I'm scheduled to go down to
>> pick
>> > up the
>> > > > boat.
>> > > >
>> > > > Stan is going to give me an old 170 to take home until the 150
>> can
>> > be
>> > > > shipped to me. Which means I need to replace the Genoa's.
>> Although
>> > I
>> > > been
>> > > > sailing since I was a kid. I have had the same ODay Javelin that
>> > has
>> > > been
>> > > > in
>> > > > our family since 74. I have never sailed anything larger than
>> 19'
>> > and
>> > > > nothing with anytype of Furler. Just nervous about changing.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've sent an email to Stan to see if it's too late to change to
>> > the CDI
>> > > > version - this would actually make it easier to change. I might
>> > even see
>> > > > if
>> > > > I can purchase the old 170 from Stan for times when we take the
>> > boat
>> > > > camping
>> > > > and to the NJ Shore where there will be more wind and the 170
>> > would make
>> > > > more sense.
>> > > >
>> > > > But just in case I can't get the CDI furler on it I want to find
>> > out how
>> > > > difficult it will be to make a one time replacement of the old
>> 170
>> > to my
>> > > > new
>> > > > 150. Again with the understanding that I'm by no means anytype
>> of
>> >
>> > master
>> > > > sailor or great with do it yourself repairs.
>> > > >
>> > > > Thanks in advance for your advice and help.
>> > > >
>> > > > Jim
>> > > > New rhodes owner
>> > > > Quakertown PA
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Tootle wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >> JimJim02
>> > > >>
>> > > >> You said that you were purchasing a Rhodes 22. Is this from
>> > General
>> > > >> Boats?
>> > > >>
>> > > >> As to changing the foresale, it depends as Mary Lou said which
>> > furler
>> > > >> you
>> > > >> have. That is if the boat has a furler. If you are
>> purchasing
>> > that
>> > > >> 1973
>> > > >> that was posted for sale, it may be a hank on.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Mary Lou pointed out the GBI factory design, CDI, and SnapFurl.
>> > There
>> > > >> are
>> > > >> even more brands. So if you are getting a boat thru GBI, call
>> > and ask
>> > > >> what is on the boat now. Stan ususally does not change the
>> > furler
>> > > >> unless
>> > > >> it is broken. So if the boat has an older CDI, that is what
>> you
>> > will
>> > > >> get.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Harkin makes one of the best system and charges accordingly.
>> It
>> >
>> > allows
>> > > >> changing foresales on the run. It allows hoisting a second
>> sail
>> > while
>> > > >> using the first. It even allow using two sails at the same
>> time,
>> > as
>> > > in
>> > > >> wing on wing.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> So understand, more information is required to answer your
>> > question.
>> > > >> Suggest you get a three ring binder to keep notes of your
>> > questions,
>> > > >> answers and other information. It will get filled up quickly.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> Ed K
>> > > >> Greenville, SC, USA
>> > > >> Addendum: "boltrope - strong rope stitched to edges of a sail"
>> > > >>
>> > > >
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