[Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack?

petelargo petelauritzen at earthlink.net
Fri Mar 7 16:50:39 EST 2008


Sorry Mr Stan Hussein Spitzer, I have been busy. Did you see McCain do that
slip up and state that he is a liberal republican and then start back
peddling while the spittle was flying out of his mouth. That really cracked
me up.


stanleyl wrote:
> 
> Pete, where have you been?
> 
> Of course he is going to be known as the king of stand up comics.  Didn't 
> you catch his act last week when he told a news conference that the Turks 
> did it the right way when they invaded Iraq, got the job done fast and got 
> right out.   His words and expression and delivery gave away his
> underlying 
> brilliant comedic talent - I still can't stop laughing.
> 
> Stan Hussein Spitzer
>  (They named the governor of a state after me so be careful about 
> politically picking on names - it can backfire,)
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "petelargo" <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 8:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack?
> 
> 
>>
>> Really. This is seriously nit-picky.  The march to which Obama referred 
>> was
>> not one of the famous Martin Luther King Selma marches, which started in
>> 1965. In 1955, a group of black women walked home instead of taking the 
>> bus,
>> a preface to the more famous Montgomery Bus Boycott of 1956. As well, 
>> civil
>> rights marches had started occurring in late 50s.
>>
>> As regards his oratory abilities.  Compared to a president that can't
>> conjugate a verb, speak in complete sentences, or pronounce words,
>> anybody
>> looks smooth AND less embarrassing.
>>
>> For a more substantiative political critique I suggest the discussion of
>> whether the bush presidency will be eventually considered a catastrophe
>> or 
>> a
>> disaster. I am undecided, but willing to hear arguments on both sides.
>>
>> Pete Hussein Lauritzen
>> Key Largo
>>
>>
>>
>> Hank-5 wrote:
>>>
>>>  Here is some more slick talking from Obama.
>>>
>>> Hank
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/03/obamas_selma_speech_text_as_de.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Say What, Barack?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> By Paul R. Hollrah
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Tuning in to C-Span recently, I found myself listening to a speech by
>>> Senator Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. He was standing in the pulpit of a 
>>> black
>>> church in Selma, Alabama, and as I studied the body language of the
>>> dozen
>>> or
>>> so black ministers standing behind the senator, I couldn't help but be
>>> reminded of the little head-bobbing dolls that people used to place in 
>>> the
>>> rear windows of their 1957 Chevrolets. If their reactions are any
>>> indication, the new "Schlickmeister" of the Democrat Party is actually a
>>> pretty accomplished public speaker.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, as he spoke, I found my b.s. alarm going off, repeatedly. But I
>>> couldn't quite figure out why until I actually read excerpts of his 
>>> speech
>>> several days later. Here's part o f what he said:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "...something happened back here in Selma, Alabama. Something happened
>>> in
>>> Birmingham that sent out what Bobby Kennedy called, "ripples of hope all
>>> around the world." Something happened when a bunch of women decided they
>>> were going to walk instead of ride the bus after a long day of doing
>>> somebody else's laundry, looking after somebody else's children.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "When (black) men who had PhD's decided 'that's enough' and 'we're going
>>> to
>>> stand up for our dignity,' that sent a shout across oceans so that my
>>> grandfather began to imagine something different for his son. His son, 
>>> who
>>> grew up herding goats in a small village in Africa could s uddenly set 
>>> his
>>> sights a little higher and believe that maybe a black man in this world
>>> had
>>> a chance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an airlift.  We're going to 
>>> go
>>> to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and
>>> give
>>> them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country
>>> America is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came
>>> over
>>> to
>>> this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great- 
>>> grandfather
>>> had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going
>>> on
>>> because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that, 
>>> (in)
>>> the world as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get
>>> together
>>> and have a child. There was something stirring across the country
>>> because
>>> of
>>> what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march
>>> across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. Was born. So
>>> don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma , Alabama. Don't tell me I'm
>>> not
>>> coming home to Selma, Alabama."
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, so what's wrong with that? It all sounds good. But is it?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Obama told his audience that, because some folks had the courage to 
>>> "march
>>> across a bridge" in Selma, Alabama, his mother, a white woman from 
>>> Kansas,
>>> and his father, a black Muslim from Africa, took heart. It gave them the
>>> courage to get married and have a child. The problem with that
>>> characterization is that Barrack Obama, Jr., was born on August 4,
>>> 1961,while the first of three marches across that bridge in Selma didn't
>>> occur until March 7, 1965, at least five years after Obama's parents
>>> met.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Obama went on to tell his audience that the Kennedys, Jack and Bobby,
>>> decided to do an airlift. They would bring some young Africans over so
>>> that
>>> they could be educated and learn all about America. His grandfather
>>> heard
>>> that call and sent his son, Barrack Obama, Sr., to America.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The problem with that scenario is that, having been born in August 1961,
>>> the
>>> future senator was not conceived until sometime in November 1960. So if
>>> this
>>> African grandfather heard words that ''sent a shout across oceans,''
>>> inspiring him to send his goat-herder son to America, it was not a
>>> Democrat
>>> Jack Kennedy he heard, nor his brother Bobby, it was a Republican
>>> President,
>>> Dwight D. Eisenhower.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Obama's speech is reminiscent of Al Gore's claim of having invented the
>>> Internet, Hillary Clinton's claim of having been named after the first 
>>> man
>>> to climb Mt. Everest, even though she was born five years and seven 
>>> months
>>> before Sir Edmund climbed the mountain, and John Kerry's imaginary trip 
>>> to
>>> Cambodia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As one of my black friends, Eddie Huff, has said, "We need to ask some
>>> very
>>> serious questions of the senator from Illinois. It's not enough to be
>>> black,
>>> it's not enough to be articulate, and it's not enough to be eloquent and 
>>> a
>>> media darling. The only question will be how deaf an ear, or how blind
>>> an
>>> eye, will people turn in order to turn a frog into a prince."
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