[Rhodes22-list] Catastrophe or a disaster?

[Herb Parsons]

Pete,

I think he was actually talking about my response to Rob Lowe, not you, 
Being a bit presumptuous there, aren't ya fella?

The "F-thing" had to do with Rob's assertion that President Bush 
"avoided Vietnam". He did, and he did so in a very honorable manner. He 
was a pilot with the National Guard, flying an F-102. You know, the 
"F-thing"


petelargo wrote:
> Don't you think it is just a little presumptuous and dismissive to declare
> what you think my "agenda" is when you don't know one thing about me? And as
> regards your imagery of being strapped to your 'F-thing' while at full
> thrust, you will have to find someone else as I don't swing that way. (not
> that there is anything wrong with that).  
>
>
> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>   
>> Herb,
>>
>> You're wasting your time.  These rants are from people with a whole
>> different agenda.  But just for shits and grins, I'd like to strap their
>> ass
>> to an F-102 for one ride and see if they still want to run their mouth
>> about
>> "avoiding Vietnam" again.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Mymymy, aren't we glad you don't write the history books. Soooo much
>>> spin, garbage, and nonsense, one hardly knows where to begin.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rob Lowe wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Oh, I don't know.  It's an interesting question, but I agree it has
>>>>         
>>> nothing
>>>       
>>>> to do with discussing the current candidates and should be debating on
>>>>         
>>> it's
>>>       
>>>> own merits.  Pete, which is worse, a catastrophe or a disaster?  I am
>>>> undecided how W's administration will be remembered too, between those
>>>>         
>>> two
>>>       
>>>> choices that is.
>>>>
>>>> In some ways, you got to feel sorry for W.  He grew up in the shadow of
>>>>         
>>> his
>>>       
>>>> very famous and successful father.  Although I didn't care much for
>>>>         
>>> George
>>>       
>>>> H.W., I have to admire him for his accomplishments and his success. 
>>>>         
>>> H.W
>>> .
>>>       
>>>> was a successful collage baseball player, war hero, business man, a
>>>>         
>>> pretty
>>>       
>>>> good politician, and put together a coalition to drive the Iraqis out
>>>>         
>>> of
>>>       
>>>> Kuwait.  W. on the other hand was a C student, avoided the Vietnam War,
>>>> failed in business until his daddy's rich friends bought his businesses
>>>>         
>>> at
>>>       
>>>> inflated prices, choose partisanship over accomplishments in politics
>>>> (although I have to argue Cheney is the force behind most of that), and
>>>>         
>>> got
>>>       
>>>> into two wars that he can't win.  And bin Laden is still on the loose.
>>>>
>>>> W.'s pretty much shot Jeb's chance at the White House, and it wasn't
>>>> supposed to be that way.  Jeb is the favorite son and was being groomed
>>>>         
>>> for
>>>       
>>>> the White House.  But W, looking for daddy's approval, decided to run
>>>>         
>>> for
>>>       
>>>> the White House and won.  Well, he didn't win it, the Supreme Court
>>>>         
>>> gave
>>> it
>>>       
>>>> to him.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, history will be the judge of W's legacy.  But this is the same guy
>>>> trying to spin his own legacy.  This is the guy who has compared
>>>>         
>>> himself
>>> to
>>>       
>>>> both George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.  You sure don't see anyone
>>>>         
>>> else
>>>       
>>>> comparing W. to Washington or Lincoln, not even his most ardent
>>>>         
>>> supporters.
>>>       
>>>> So, catastrophe or disaster?  Worse president in American history? 
>>>>         
>>> Only
>>>       
>>>> time will tell.  - rob
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 11:43 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Huh???? How is discussing whether "the bush presidency will be
>>>>>           
>>> evtually
>>>       
>>>>> considered a catastrophe or a disaster" more a substantiative
>>>>>           
>>> political
>>>       
>>>>> critique than discussing the current candidates? The Bush presidency
>>>>>           
>>> is
>>>       
>>>>> just about over, and virtually nothing can be done to change his
>>>>>           
>>> course.
>>>       
>>>>> History has shown that the great presidencies were typically not
>>>>> recognized as such until LONG after they're over. In reality, that
>>>>> discussion would be virtually empty of substance were it to be held
>>>>>           
>>> now.
>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>>>> For a more substantiative political critique I suggest the discussion
>>>>>>             
>>> of
>>>       
>>>>>> whether the bush presidency will be eventually considered a
>>>>>>             
>>> catastrophe
>>>       
>>>> or a
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> disaster. I am undecided, but willing to hear arguments on both
>>>>>>             
>>> sides.
>>>       
>>>>>> Pete Hussein Lauritzen
>>>>>> Key Largo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
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>>>>         
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