[Rhodes22-list] Catastrophe or a disaster?

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Brad,
 
Just for the record, I never told Pete you were a nice guy.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 3/10/2008 10:34:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
petelauritzen at earthlink.net writes:


No  worries. I was actually kidding. I got a thick skin and I heard you are  a
relatively nice guy.  


Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>  
> Pete,
> 
> A bit testy are we?  My observation was  directed at Rob's comment about W
> having "avoided the Vietnam War" not  yours.  Relax, if you want some
> lessons
> on how to have a  real cat fight, search the archives for some of the
> debates
>  between Bill Effros and myself. Bill is a real pro and doesn't think  every
> comment is directed at him personally. A lot of folks don't like  being
> strapped to an "F-thing" and who can blame them.  The death  rate in that
> contraption was higher than serving in Vietnam, and their  mission was to
> patrol the southern border against Cuban based Soviet  aircraft.  The F-102
> also served in Vietnam with several National  Guard pilot losses. Exactly
> what did Bill Clinton do during Vietnam?  As to your agenda?  Frankly my
> dear.........
> 
>  Brad
> 
> On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 8:11 AM, petelargo  <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>  
>>
>> Don't you think it is just a little presumptuous and  dismissive to
>> declare
>> what you think my "agenda" is  when you don't know one thing about me? And
>> as
>> regards  your imagery of being strapped to your 'F-thing' while at full
>>  thrust, you will have to find someone else as I don't swing that  way.
>> (not
>> that there is anything wrong with  that).
>>
>>
>> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>  >
>> > Herb,
>> >
>> > You're wasting  your time.  These rants are from people with a whole
>> >  different agenda.  But just for shits and grins, I'd like to  strap
>> their
>> > ass
>> > to an F-102 for  one ride and see if they still want to run their mouth
>> >  about
>> > "avoiding Vietnam" again.
>> >
>>  > Brad
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 3:54 PM,  Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Mymymy, aren't we glad you don't  write the history books. Soooo much
>> >> spin, garbage, and  nonsense, one hardly knows where to begin.
>> >>
>>  >>
>> >> Rob Lowe wrote:
>> >> > Oh, I  don't know.  It's an interesting question, but I agree it has
>>  >> nothing
>> >> > to do with discussing the current  candidates and should be debating
>> on
>> >>  it's
>> >> > own merits.  Pete, which is worse, a  catastrophe or a disaster?  I
>> am
>> >> >  undecided how W's administration will be remembered too, between
>>  those
>> >> two
>> >> > choices that  is.
>> >> >
>> >> > In some ways, you got  to feel sorry for W.  He grew up in the shadow
>> of
>>  >> his
>> >> > very famous and successful  father.  Although I didn't care much for
>> >>  George
>> >> > H.W., I have to admire him for his  accomplishments and his success.
>> >> H.W
>> >>  .
>> >> > was a successful collage baseball player, war  hero, business man, a
>> >> pretty
>> >> >  good politician, and put together a coalition to drive the Iraqis
>>  out
>> >> of
>> >> > Kuwait.  W. on the  other hand was a C student, avoided the Vietnam
>> War,
>>  >> > failed in business until his daddy's rich friends bought  his
>> businesses
>> >> at
>> >> >  inflated prices, choose partisanship over accomplishments in
>>  politics
>> >> > (although I have to argue Cheney is the  force behind most of that),
>> and
>> >>  got
>> >> > into two wars that he can't win.  And bin  Laden is still on the
>> loose.
>> >> >
>>  >> > W.'s pretty much shot Jeb's chance at the White House, and it  wasn't
>> >> > supposed to be that way.  Jeb is the  favorite son and was being
>> groomed
>> >>  for
>> >> > the White House.  But W, looking for  daddy's approval, decided to
>> run
>> >>  for
>> >> > the White House and won.  Well, he didn't  win it, the Supreme Court
>> >> gave
>> >>  it
>> >> > to him.
>> >> >
>>  >> > Yes, history will be the judge of W's legacy.  But this is  the same
>> guy
>> >> > trying to spin his own  legacy.  This is the guy who has compared
>> >>  himself
>> >> to
>> >> > both George  Washington and Abraham Lincoln.  You sure don't see
>>  anyone
>> >> else
>> >> > comparing W. to  Washington or Lincoln, not even his most ardent
>> >>  supporters.
>> >> >
>> >> > So,  catastrophe or disaster?  Worse president in American  history?
>> >> Only
>> >> > time will  tell.  - rob
>> >> >
>> >> > -----  Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Herb Parsons"  <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> >> > To: "The Rhodes 22  mail list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> >> > Sent:  Friday, March 07, 2008 11:43 AM
>> >> > Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] Say What, Barack?
>> >> >
>>  >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Huh????  How is discussing whether "the bush presidency will be
>> >>  evtually
>> >> >> considered a catastrophe or a disaster"  more a substantiative
>> >> political
>> >>  >> critique than discussing the current candidates? The Bush
>>  presidency
>> >> is
>> >> >> just about  over, and virtually nothing can be done to change his
>> >>  course.
>> >> >> History has shown that the great  presidencies were typically not
>> >> >> recognized as  such until LONG after they're over. In reality, that
>> >>  >> discussion would be virtually empty of substance were it to be  held
>> >> now.
>> >> >>
>>  >> >>
>> >> >>> For a more substantiative  political critique I suggest the
>> discussion
>> >>  of
>> >> >>> whether the bush presidency will be  eventually considered a
>> >> catastrophe
>> >>  >>>
>> >> > or a
>> >>  >
>> >> >>> disaster. I am undecided, but willing  to hear arguments on both
>> >> sides.
>> >>  >>>
>> >> >>> Pete Hussein  Lauritzen
>> >> >>> Key Largo
>> >>  >>>
>> >> >
>> >> >
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