[Rhodes22-list] Response to Alan's Rant

Michael D. Weisner mweisner at ebsmed.com
Mon Mar 31 16:51:51 EDT 2008


Alan,

At least the subject line contains the word "politics" so that you can set 
up an email client filter to remove this email traffic from you inbox - you 
will not even need to hit the delete key - it will be as though nobody even 
had the discussion (as far as you will be concerned)!!  If you need help, 
just ask (see, questions need not be in the form of sailing concerns.)

As to your question, "What does below have to do with a Rhodes 22?", nothing 
other than the fact that the participants are registered on the Rhode22 
list.  Based on the list charter, IT DOES NOT NEED TO.  As we all have been 
reminded so many times, the day that we subscribed to "Da List" we received 
an email that spelled out the list charter, among several other things.  You 
may or may not remember receiving it or reading it, but I still have my copy 
from '06.  Rummy faithfully placed a copy on the list just yesterday 
(http://www.nabble.com/Rhodes-List-Charter-%28Rules-of-the-list%29-to16381419.html#a16381419.) 
To quote from it:

   The focus of this group includes, but is not limited  to:

    * Encouraging the understanding and discussion of Rhodes sailboats  or
    Rhodes sailors, in the many ways people wish to define it.

    * Acting  as a source of information for  Rhodes sailboats or Rhodes
    sailors  worldwide and for people planning  to buy/sell/repair/learn
    about Rhodes  sailboats or Rhodes sailors.

    * Providing a forum for the development and  promotion Rhodes sailboats
    or Rhodes sailors'  culture, history,  traditions and economy.

    * Any other subject that might be found at a  sailor's bar or the
    Clubhouse Bar, Including Rhodes sailboats or Rhodes  sailors' travels,
    events, family, jokes, quotations, pets, etc.

I think that the last paragraph spells it out for you.  As Elle so often 
points out:
"We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails." 
Stop trying to make the wind do what you want and just trim your sails.

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY


From: "Alan Robertson" <bigal_61 at msn.com>Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 4:15 
PM
> Again, what does below have to do with a Rhodes 22??
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: David Bradley<mailto:dwbrad at gmail.com>
>  To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>  Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 6:22 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - Stan and Brad
>
>
>  And Condoleezza just happened to speak out today...  hmm.  McCain/Rice
>  vs. Obama/Richardson.
>
>  It's been interesting to see the knives being sharpened waiting for
>  Barack to get the nomination.  In our neighborhood caucus the fact
>  that Hillary has already been "battle tested" was a convincing factor
>  for some on the fence.
>
>  Dave
>
>
>  On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 2:18 PM, Herb Parsons 
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com<mailto:hparsons at parsonsys.com>> wrote:
>  > I don't disagree with you, just don't know enough to agree. Personally,
>  > I hope you're right, because from where I've sat (a disinterested
>  > non-Democrat who refused to "cross lines" just to vote for the lesser
>  > challenge), he's looked more electable to me than Billary is. It's
>  > becoming obvious he's going to win the nomination, so I hope he can't
>  > win the election.
>  >
>  > Saw a blurb today on Drudge that said hinted at a possible 
> McCain/Romney
>  > ticket. That would suit me just fine, but I'd really prefer to see a
>  > McCain/Rice ticket myself.
>  >
>  >
>  > Brad Haslett wrote:
>  > > Herb,
>  > >
>  > > "He's toast" because Barry Obama has more "lost" baggage than any 
> airline
>  > > and it will come to light.  Had the MSM done their job instead of 
> getting a
>  > > "tingling in their leg" listening to him speak, this would already be 
> in the
>  > > open. The OMessiah ran "silent and deep" like a submariner  in the 
> Illinois
>  > > legislature.  The guy made it to the US Senate basically unopposed 
> and with
>  > > little scrutiny.  That is not the case now.  Right now it is the 
> Clinton's
>  > > who are trying to shine a spot light on the guy but they are walking 
> a
>  > > tightrope so as to not piss off their own base.  McCain will take the 
> high
>  > > road in the general election but there are no shortages of 527's and
>  > > bloggers who will point out the disturbing associations and history 
> of this
>  > > guy.  I don't have a dog in this hunt, for me it will be a process of
>  > > choosing the least of weasels, but it is going to be fun seeing the 
> MSM get
>  > > exposed for their incompetence and infatuation. Obama will need ALL 
> of
>  > > Chicago to get re-elected as Senator - downstaters won't support him 
> once
>  > > they come to know him.
>  > >
>  > > Brad
>  > >
>  > > On Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 9:23 AM, Herb Parsons 
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com<mailto:hparsons at parsonsys.com>>
>  > > wrote:
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >> I don't know that I agree with the statement that "he's toast", but 
> the
>  > >> whole discussion HAS gotten me thinking about how interesting the US
>  > >> political process is. How often do we have political candidates that 
> are
>  > >> seriously considered for the highest office in our country, arguably 
> the
>  > >> most powerful position in the world, that fade into obscurity
>  > >> afterwards? Actually, the easier question would be how often do the
>  > >> losers NOT fade into obscurity? There are the occasional "succeed on 
> the
>  > >> second try" candidates, but for the most part, if you lose a serious
>  > >> presidential bid, you can just about shelve your further political
>  > >> aspirations.
>  > >>
>  > >> Face it, we're a fickle group. As much was love the "underdog", we
>  > >> dislike losers more.
>  > >>
>  > >> I think Brad's partially right. If Obama doesn't become President, 
> he
>  > >> will fade to obscurity. I also feel his fall (if it happens) will be 
> as
>  > >> fast as his rise.
>  > >> If Hillary doesn't become President, I believe she'll be Al Gore x 
> 10.
>  > >> She'll be unelectable (and will probably realize it), but will 
> become an
>  > >> "activist" (or spoiler, depending on your view) for as long as there 
> are
>  > >> folks that will continue to listen.
>  > >>
>  > >> Brad Haslett wrote:
>  > >>
>  > >>> Ed,
>  > >>>
>  > >>> Yup!  It's a mix of Marxist dogma and victimization profit taking. 
> The
>  > >>>
>  > >> good
>  > >>
>  > >>> Rev. Wright is moving into a new $1.6 million mansion.  So much for
>  > >>> eschewing "middleclassness".  Either liberation theology pays well 
> or
>  > >>>
>  > >> he's
>  > >>
>  > >>> financing his new diggs the same way Barry and Michelle did theirs. 
> The
>  > >>> O-man is going to talk tough to the bullies of the world but 
> listens to
>  > >>>
>  > >> 20+
>  > >>
>  > >>> years of white hating, anti-Semitic, anti-American rants, donates 
> money
>  > >>>
>  > >> to
>  > >>
>  > >>> the organization, and exposes his kids to this crap - but doesn't 
> say
>  > >>>
>  > >> squat
>  > >>
>  > >>> to the leader.  Yeah, he's one tough SOB. Other than watching this 
> thing
>  > >>> unfold just for fun it's already getting boring.  Obama is toast, 
> he'll
>  > >>>
>  > >> be
>  > >>
>  > >>> lucky to get re-elected to the Senate.  Move along folks nothing to 
> see
>  > >>> here!
>  > >>>
>  > >>> Brad
>  > >>>
>  > >>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Tootle 
> <ekroposki at charter.net<mailto:ekroposki at charter.net>> wrote:
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
>  > >>>
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