[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes list charter. For Al.
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Fri May 2 08:59:30 EDT 2008
Al,
Apparently you didn't read the charter when you signed up for the list:
Rummy
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In a message dated 5/1/2008 8:25:41 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
bigal_61 at msn.com writes:
What does the following have to do with boating?? This is the sort of
material totally unrelated to Rhodes 22 boats and sailing that has finally
convinced me to have all incoming mail from the Rhodes list go into JUNK MAIL.
Thanks much Dave and Lou; E-mail each other and don't burden the rest of us with
your personal non-nautical mail!!
Al Robertson '83 "Thor IV"
----- Original Message -----
From: Lou Rosenberg<mailto:lsr3 at nyu.edu>
To: The Rhodes 22 mail list<mailto:rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] THE LAWYERS PARTY
Thanks Dave
On May 1, 2008, at 3:28 AM, David Bradley wrote:
> Hmm. Let's look at the listings of great presidents.
>
> George Washington - Surveryor, Planter, Military.
>
> John Adams - Laywer.
>
> Thomas Jefferson - Lawyer.
>
> James Polk- Lawyer.
>
> Abraham Lincoln - Lawyer.
>
> Harry Truman - Studied Law, Judge, Haberdasher.
>
> Woodrow Wilson - Law Professor
>
> FDR - Lawyer.
>
> Dwight Eisenhower - Military.
>
> John Kennedy - Military - Politician.
>
> Ronald Reagan (not on my list but on some) - Entertainer.
>
> Bill Clinton (dissapointing human but I'd say an excellent chief
> executive) - Lawyer.
>
>
> The premise that business leaders make good country leaders doesn't
> seem to have much historical basis. The strongest business leaders I
> have known have steered clear of politics because they didn't have the
> patience.
>
> The premise that all lawyers are leeches is just plain bigotry.
>
> The premise that the Democratic Party is anti-business is also a load
> of B.S., but too late to take that one on.
>
> In my opinion, of course.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Hank
<hnw555 at gmail.com<mailto:hnw555 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> Agree or disagree..it's interesting reading. - Hank
>>
>> THE LAWYERS PARTY
>>
>> The Democratic Party has become the Lawyers' Party. Barack Obama
>> and Hillary
>> Clinton are lawyers. Bill Clinton and Michelle Obama are lawyers.
>> John
>> Edwards, the other former Democrat candidate for president, is a
>> lawyer and
>> so is his wife Elizabeth. Every Democrat nominee since 1984 went
>> to law
>> school (although Gore did not graduate.) Every Democrat vice
>> presidential
>> nominee since 1976, except for Lloyd Benson, went to law school.
>> Look at the
>> Democrat Party in Congress: the Majority Leader in each house is a
>> lawyer.
>>
>> The Republican Party is different. President Bush and Vice
>> President Cheney
>> were not lawyers, but businessmen. The leaders of the Republican
>> Revolution
>> were not lawyers. Newt Gingrich was a history professor; Tom Delay
>> was an
>> exterminator; and Dick Armey was an economist. House Minority
>> Leader Boehner
>> was a plastic manufacturer, not a lawyer. The former Senate
>> Majority Leader
>> Bill Frist is a heart surgeon.
>>
>> Who was the last Republican president who was a lawyer? Gerald
>> Ford, who
>> left office thirty-one years ago and who barely won the Republican
>> nomination as a sitting president, running against Ronald Reagan
>> in 1976.
>> The Republican Party is made up of real people doing real work. The
>> Democratic Party is made up of lawyers. Democrats mock and scorn
>> men who
>> create wealth, like Bush and Cheney, or who heal the sick like
>> Frist, or who
>> immerse themselves in history like Gingrich.
>>
>> The Lawyers' Party sees these sorts of people, who provide goods and
>> services that people want, as the enemies of America. And so we
>> have seen
>> the procession of official enemies in the eyes of the Lawyers'
>> Party grow.
>>
>> Against whom do Hillary and Obama rail? Pharmaceutical companies, oil
>> companies, hospitals, manufacturers, fast food restaurant chains,
>> large
>> retail businesses, bankers and anyone producing anything of value
>> in our
>> nation.
>>
>> This is the natural consequence of viewing everything through the
>> eyes of
>> lawyers. Lawyers solve problems by successfully representing their
>> clients,
>> in this case the American people. Lawyers seek to have new laws
>> passed, they
>> seek to win lawsuits, they press appellate courts to overturn
>> precedent, and
>> lawyers always parse language to favor their side.
>>
>> Confined to the narrow practice of law, that is fine. But it is an
>> awful way
>> to govern a great nation. When politicians as lawyers begin to
>> view some
>> Americans as clients and other Americans as opposing parties, then
>> the role
>> of the legal system in our life becomes all consuming. Some
>> Americans become
>> "adverse parties" of our very government. We are not all litigants
>> in some
>> vast social class action suit. We are citizens of a republic which
>> promises
>> us a great deal of freedom from laws,
>>
>> from courts, and from lawyers.
>>
>> Today, we are drowning in laws, we are contorted by judicial
>> decisions, we
>> are driven to distraction by omnipresent lawyers in all parts of
>> our once
>> private lives. America has a place for laws and lawyers, but that
>> place is
>>
>> modest and reasonable, not vast and unchecked. When the most
>> important
>> decision for our next president is whom he will appoint to the
>> Supreme
>> Court, the role of lawyers and the law in America is too big. When
>> lawyers
>> use criminal prosecution as a continuation of politics by other
>> means, as
>> happened in the lynching of Scooter Libby and Tom Delay, then the
>> power of
>> lawyers in America is too great. When House Democrats sue America
>> in order
>> to hamstring our efforts to learn what our enemies are planning to
>> do to
>> use, then the role of litigation in America has become crushing.
>>
>> We cannot expect the Lawyers' Party to provide real change, real
>> reform or
>> real hope in America. Most Americans know that a republic in which
>> every
>> major government action must be blessed by nine unelected judges
>> is not what
>> Washington intended in 1789. Most Americans grasp that we cannot
>> fight a war
>> when ACLU lawsuits snap at the heels of our defenders. Most
>> Americans intuit
>> that more lawyers and judges will not restore declining moral
>> values or
>> spark the spirit of enterprise in our economy.
>>
>> Perhaps Americans will understand that change cannot be brought to
>> our
>> nation by those lawyers who already largely dictate American
>> society and
>> business.
>>
>> Perhaps Americans will see that hope does not come from the mouths of
>> lawyers but from personal dreams nourished by hard work. Perhaps
>> Americans
>> will embrace the truth that more lawyers with more power will only
>> make our
>> problems worse.
>>
>> Page Printed from:
>>
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/the_lawyers_party.html<http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/03/the_lawyers_party.html>
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