[Rhodes22-list] Bush's service record- Political? (was This day in history)

Todd Tavares sprocket80 at mail.com
Sat May 3 11:54:51 EDT 2008


 I usually do not get involved in these (political) discussions. 

No one here is touting George W. Bush's great service record but al least
he HAS a service record.  Most of the people that blast Wubya's service
record are the same ones that voted for and defended Bill Clinton.  While
we are talking about Presidents that are criminals??  Clinton was a felon
draft dodger until Jimmy Carter pardoned him in 1977. 

http://www.geocities.com/cmcofer/clinton.html

What ever happened to changing the subject lines and labels?

Todd

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: petelargo
  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in history
  Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 12:53:22 -0700 (PDT)



  1) That specific line is purely a joke based on the current political
  musings. If you don't get it (no matter how bad it might be) then I
  guess
  the joke is on you.

  2) Please do not tout Bush as some great 'serviceman'. He was a
  silver spoon
  'bubba' that was a war dodger, period. In fact I would hold up Rev
  Wrights 6
  years of Marine service over Bushes questionable Texas Air Guard.
  Hey, he is
  the one that classified the information. If you are so proud why hide
  it.

  3) I am connected to many people that are lefties, righties,
  libertarians
  and just plain crazies. I have yet to meet even one person amongst
  them that
  doubts the sincerity and efforts made by the our armed forces. So
  unless you
  have specifics and not generalizations of 'lefties against the
  troops' , you
  can finally pull that particular pickle out.

  4) Early in the primaries (Feb) the troops themselves number one
  candidate
  per actual monetary donation (not easy on military pay) was Ron Paul,
  who
  never supported Iraq and wants them out immediately. Second was
  Barack
  Obama.

  5) I am extremely proud of our military, but not the Commander in
  Chief. He
  should be held accountable and tried for Crimes against the
  Constitution
  (the document he swore to uphold) and he is already in serious legal
  trouble
  now trying to cover his personal ass. Even many mainstream
  conservatives
  were mind blown that the President gave a tax cut to the wealthy at a
  time
  during wartime (unprecedented in US history) when documented evidence
  of
  lack of troop supplies and equipment existed. Ridiculous.

  6) Finally, many of us (81% and rising) feel the country is on the
  wrong
  track. Nationalistic pride without any reflection on errors, is the
  hallmark of a "true-believer". Time to grow up and realize that
  America can
  and does make mistakes and healthy reflection, criticism and
  correction are
  not only patriotic, but morally necessary.


  Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
  >
  > Pete,
  >
  > You wrote, "I denounce that type of angry pulpit-banging
  white-bread
  > rhetoric."
  >
  > That's the second time you've used the expression "white-bread".
  Exactly
  > what-the-hell is that phrase supposed to mean? If it is supposed to
  be an
  > insult then you should be proud, it's working. Please define it
  further
  > so
  > instead of thinking I might be torqued at your simple-mindedness
  I'll know
  > for sure.
  >
  > It is entirely possible that I'm a "loser" and if so, it was a
  choice. If
  > I'm "white-bread" (whatever that means) I may be the victim of
  racism.
  >
  > Brad
  >
  > On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 9:43 AM, petelargo
  > wrote:
  >
  >>
  >> Herb,
  >>
  >> Are your views and opinions so weak that you have to resort to
  personal
  >> name
  >> calling? I denounce that type of angry pulpit-banging white-bread
  >> rhetoric.
  >> The full truth is that the sign was the NAVY'S idea for that
  specific
  >> carrier's mission. HOWEVER, the White House was involved and DID
  actually
  >> have the sign made and had Bush positioned for maximum photo op.
  Any
  >> politician will jump in front of a parade. And Bush did say "that
  major
  >> combat operations were over in Iraq. In the battle of Iraq, the
  United
  >> States and our allies have prevailed." Bush's speech originally
  did have
  >> "mission accomplished" in it. Rumsfeld had that taken that out and
  it was
  >> semi-watered down to the above quote.
  >>
  >>
  >> hparsons wrote:
  >> >
  >> > Rob, you're pathetic. Bush did exactly what he said he did, and
  you
  >> want
  >> > to berate him for that. You're a loser.
  >> >
  >> > Rob Lowe wrote:
  >> >> No smoke being blown by me of course, just by Bush.
  >> >>
  >> >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> >> From: "Brad Haslett"
  >> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 mail list"
  >> >> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:02 PM
  >> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] This day in history
  >> >>
  >> >>
  >> >>
  >> >>> Rob,
  >> >>>
  >> >>> I remember the moment well - watched it live during the
  afternoon
  >> launch
  >> >>> with a bunch of Navy pilots and a substantial number of Air
  Force
  >> pilots
  >> >>> commenting on how easy it must be to land on a target that's
  always
  >> >>>
  >> >> pointed
  >> >>
  >> >>> into the wind. First, as a pilot, Bush 43 proved his stripes
  flying a
  >> >>> most
  >> >>> difficult and unforgiving aircraft. He earned his flight suit
  and
  >> >>> looked
  >> >>> good in it that day! You may have a political point you want
  to
  >> score,
  >> >>> so
  >> >>> be it. Just don't blow smoke your asshole hasn't earned!
  >> >>>
  >> >>> Brad
  >> >>>
  >> >>> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Rob Lowe wrote:
  >> >>>
  >> >>>
  >> >>>> Five years ago, today, President Bush declares victory in
  Iraq
  >> aboard
  >> >>>> an
  >> >>>> aircraft carrier bearing a victory banner.
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