[Rhodes22-list] political: CNN Poll Finds Rhodes 22 Owner As #1 Political Irritant
Herb Parsons
hparsons at parsonsys.com
Mon May 5 16:53:18 EDT 2008
I'm 40 years past an 11 year old, and that's funny! Guess some of us
never do grow up.
Brad Haslett wrote:
> Thena,
>
> About that idot thing-
>
> This has nothing to do with politics but may explain why I've been
> dysfunctional since the 5th grade. The last good ass whooping I got was when
> my Uncle Berthol (8th in a family of 12, my Dad was the Baby) was over at
> our house and thought he was having a heart attack. Aunt Bell (his wife)
> had a glass eye that everyone ignored. Well, Aunt Bell got to batting her
> eyes out of nervousness while waiting for the Doc (they made house calls
> back then) and her glass eye popped out and rolled across the floor. Try
> explaining why that isn't funny to an eleven year old! Dad beat my ass!
> Now that he's 87. I remind him that I've never forgiven him for that and
> paybacks are hell! He still doesn't seem all that worried.
>
> Brad
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Thena Carville <thenacarville at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>> And here I thought it was a one eyed idiot....go figure...
>> Thena
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
>> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 3:08 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 mail list
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] political: CNN Poll Finds Rhodes 22 Owner As
>> #1
>> Political Irritant
>>
>> Boy... all you folks that "know so much", and you have to have simple
>> things like that answered.
>>
>> It's the dot, over in i. Sort of like a jdot, but differentimicated.
>>
>> Hank wrote:
>>
>>> Brad,
>>>
>>> What's an idot?
>>>
>>> Hank <grin>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/5/08, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Pete,
>>>>
>>>> I'm learning from Rummy about the new rules.
>>>>
>>>> You're an idot!
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 2:13 PM, petelargo <petelauritzen at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Just got back from 3 day cruise in the florida keys. It was awesome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Then,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Herb, I saw your posts. You ask me for my sources (verbally
>>>>>
>> denigrating
>>
>>>> me
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> and doubting that I even have them). Then when I give them to you, you
>>>>> don't
>>>>> like them or go "so what". It seems as if you are just going to hide
>>>>> behind
>>>>> the 3 monkeys rule and regurgitate your views (while acting like you
>>>>>
>> are
>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> only one without an agenda-laughable by itself).
>>>>>
>>>>> I don;t know what it means that the troops supported Ron Paul as their
>>>>> number one candidate. I just thought it was interesting that they
>>>>>
>> did.
>>
>>>>> Don't you think it's interesting that they supported a fringe
>>>>>
>> candidate
>>
>>>>> like
>>>>> him? It's open for discussion. But it's true as I said it was. Why,
>>>>>
>> why,
>>
>>>>> why.
>>>>>
>>>>> When ANY politician hides their past records it is a red flag for
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> concern.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Lack of transparency in politics is the road to ALL evils. And again
>>>>>
>> it
>>
>>>> is
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>> fact that Bush made his service records confidential. Why, why why.
>>>>>
>>>>> You are not up to date on the illegality of Bushes DOMESTIC
>>>>>
>> wiretapping.
>>
>>>>> Or
>>>>> again you are hiding behind the 3 monkeys rule (see no..hear no..
>>>>>
>> speak
>>
>>>>> no..
>>>>> about Bush). And yes I am doing something about it as a supporting
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> member
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> of
>>>>> IMPEACHBUSH.ORG. However, I have made it clear that if Bush is caught
>>>>>
>> in
>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> proper sex scandal I will immediately drop my membership.
>>>>>
>>>>> data for all your illegal domestic wiretapping reading needs:
>>>>> http://thewall.civiblog.org/rsf/house_nsabrief_docs_012006.html
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) "Now, I want to be absolutely clear. What the President ordered in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> case was a crime.... and we have to deal with that as citizens and,
>>>>> unfortunately, You have to deal with that as Members of
>>>>>
>> Congress....Now,
>>
>>>>> Members that stay silent are making a choice. Very few Members have
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> faced
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> this type of test of Faith. But You are facing it now, and as
>>>>>
>> Citizens
>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> as Members, it's now up to us. We are called to account to the many
>>>>> benefits that we have gotten from this system. We are called to
>>>>>
>> account
>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> do something, and not to remain silent."
>>>>> Jonathan Turley
>>>>> Professor of Constitutional Law,
>>>>> George Washington University
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) "...so indiscriminate and sweeping a scheme of domestic intrusion
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> into
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> the private communications of American citizens, predicated entirely
>>>>>
>> on
>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> unchecked judgment of the Executive Branch, violates the Fourth
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Amendment
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 'right of the people to be secure . . . against unreasonable searches
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> seizures' even if it otherwise represents an exercise of
>>>>>
>> constitutional
>>
>>>>> power entrusted to the President by Article II or delegated to the
>>>>> President
>>>>> by Congress in exercising its powers under Article I......the argument
>>>>> goes... Invasion of that citizen's privacy was, alas, but one of war's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> sad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> side effects - a species of collateral damage. The technical legal
>>>>>
>> term
>>
>>>>> for
>>>>> that, I believe, is poppycock. "
>>>>>
>>>>> Laurence H. Tribe
>>>>> Professor of Constitutional Law
>>>>> Harvard University
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) "...it is not simply a claim that the President has the sole power
>>>>>
>> to
>>
>>>>> decide which laws to violate and when to go outside the judicial
>>>>>
>> power,
>>
>>>>> but
>>>>> that he has the power to do so in secret....until the New York Times
>>>>> reviewed this program, he withheld the fact from the American people
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> his view was that FISA did not limit his powers. He secretly believed
>>>>> that
>>>>> he had broader authority than was laid out in the public statutes, but
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> he
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> withheld and misled the American people about that view of his own
>>>>> powers......examine what kind of misleading statements, if not
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> deception,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> were put before the Congress in connection with this"
>>>>> Kate Martin
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Center for National Security Studies
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) "...when Congress enacted the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 1978, it expressly rejected the President's claim of inherent
>>>>>
>> authority
>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> conduct warrantless wiretaps. It then went further and made it a crime
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> conduct such wiretaps. The President has acted contrary to the express
>>>>> will
>>>>> of the Congress. The Supreme Court has never approved a claim of
>>>>> presidential authority to authorize acts outlawed by the Congress."
>>>>>
>>>>> Kate Martin
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Center for National Security Studies
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) "...under his interpretation ... he could suspend the writ of
>>>>>
>> habeas
>>
>>>>> corpus, ... saying: This authorization enabled me to do anything in
>>>>> furtherance of the war effort. I can suspend the writ of habeas corpus
>>>>> unilaterally even though Congress hasn't ...He could authorize
>>>>>
>> breaking
>>
>>>>> and
>>>>> entering of homes in order to secure intelligence to fight the war
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> against
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> terrorism, despite the fact that there is an authorized procedure in
>>>>>
>> an
>>
>>>>> amendment to FISA that governs physical searches......the principle
>>>>>
>> that
>>
>>>>> the
>>>>> President has established here, if gone unchecked, will, as Justice
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Robert
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jackson said, lie around like a loaded gun and be utilized by any
>>>>>
>> future
>>
>>>>> incumbent who claims a need. And the history of power teaches us one
>>>>> thing,
>>>>> that if it's unchecked, it will be abused."
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruce Fein
>>>>> Deputy Assistant Attorney General
>>>>> Reagan Administration
>>>>>
>>>>> 6) "In each case the president's answer has been the same ... Courts
>>>>>
>> and
>>
>>>>> Congress have little or no place to question his decisions....it is
>>>>> nonetheless a dangerous path for our nation. Our laws provide ample
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> tools
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> for fighting terrorism without eroding basic liberties. No one, not
>>>>>
>> even
>>
>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> wartime president, is above the law"
>>>>> Michael S. Greco
>>>>> President, American Bar Association
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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