[Rhodes22-list] Politics - It Will Bankrupt polluters!

Robert J. Nickerson infoman at mindspring.com
Sun Nov 2 11:12:23 EST 2008


Sigh....  I guess I must break my vow to myself to not stick my toe in this 
political quagmire.

First a small bio - I am a medal winning veteran, ivy league educated 
retired systems analyst (banking), owner of a GB modified Starwind 19 with a 
Rhodes 22 in mast main purchased from Stan, and considered by most of my 
friends to be a conservative.  I took the political test and showed scored 
as a moderate fiscal conservative and a moderate social liberal.  I hate 
party labels but if I was pressed I can best stomach being called a 
libertarian.  I have voted in every presidential election but either against 
a candidate or writing in someone (one election I wrote in Colin Powell for 
president).

I will make six points and disappear again.

1.  I will defend anyone's right to vote, promote, proselytize and work for, 
and donate to any candidate they wish.  I do not defend the right to 
innuendo, falsehoods, scare tactics, and guilt by association.

2. As a system analyst I had intimate knowledge of credit and debit 
authorization systems.  Visa, MasterCard, AMEX, and Discover all have 
various levels of fees for their services depending on the level of 
validation that is done at the time of information collected.  What the 
Obama site is doing is not illegal.  What you testers are doing by inputting 
false information most likely is illegal.

3.  Brad, you keep hammering on the withheld video tape of Obama at the 2003 
party for the Palestine-American Columbia University professor Rashid 
Khalidi.  Perhaps you should also note that the Center for Palestine 
Research and Studies that Rashid Khalidi helped found received at least 
$448,000.00 from an organization who has John McCain as a chairman.  I leave 
the reader to decide which is more relevant.

4.  This latest youtube (no video is telling) is out of context as usual. 
The full context shows that the statement was about the fact that there was 
no need to pass laws forcing emission standards or carbon sequestration 
standards because if a coal plant was built without them, it would bankrupt 
itself if the cap and trade was in place.

5.  To me, a microcosm of the election is the analysis of Iran.  Obama says 
he would sit down with leaders with no preconditions.  McCain and Palin 
laugh at this though it is a recommendation of many world leaders and 
bipartisan think tanks.
Palin sneers at sitting down with President Ahmadinejad of Iran.  Obama 
correctly notes that the president is not the ultimate leader of Iran but 
more of a figurehead; he would sit down with the Supreme Leader Ali 
Khamene'i.  I would also note the success of the "surge" in Iraq owes much 
to the Anbar Awakening alliance with Sunni tribal sheiks.

6.  This is opinion: Obama is the first candidate of a major party I will 
actively vote for.  I feel McCain is past his prime and careful examination 
of his speech patterns indicate beginnings of mental decline.  I would 
prefer that no one with a temper like his be anywhere near the "button". 
Please note if Hilary was the nominee I would have been forced to vote for 
McCain against her.
My take is that the way the Obama campaign has been organized and run is the 
best indication of his organizational skills and intelligence.  I also have 
enough belief in the inherent honesty and goodness of most people that if 
there was the vast socialist, communist,  Islamic, left wing conspiracy that 
the McCain supporters postulate it would truly have surfaced.  The law of 
Occam's razor applies.

If I wanted to do innuendo I would ask this:  how do we know that McCain 
isn't a Manchurian candidate?  Was he brainwashed in a communist prison? 
No, I don't believe this, but that accusation is about as probable as most 
of those leveled against Obama.

All right, have at me.  I return to lurking as I seem to have much less free 
time than most of the serial posters here even though I am retired.  By the 
way, I have never searched youtube or other sites at all, much less with the 
frequency demonstrated here.

Final note - I am aware that the mainstream media has its own agenda.  I am 
also aware of incidents and associations in McCain's past that have been 
made available to the public that have not been exploited by the MSM or the 
democratic party that to me are equal to those that the republicans are 
excoriating Obama for.  To me, they almost all are irrelevant.

I am sorry to have violated my promise to myself not to post, but will 
assure you this is the last before the election.  I truly believe that 
electing Obama has a chance to restore the United States diplomatic status 
and moral authority in much of the world.

Robert J. Nickerson
Colchester, Vermont

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brad Haslett" <flybrad at gmail.com>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 8:50 AM
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Politics - It Will Bankrupt Them!


> Listen to this - (just released so the MSM hasn't digested it yet)
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQBWQ
>
> Folks, you don't have to be a genius to figure out how dangerous this
> philosophy is as economic and energy policy.  Are we supposed to go
> back to using whale oil or are we going to build nukes?  This guy is
> clueless.
>
> Something tells me the party leadership in China is laughing their
> asses off about now.
>
> Brad
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