[Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes and those who reason only ...

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Mon Nov 10 09:50:21 EST 2008


I'd say the indians didn't name the reservation, so my guess would be 
that the English spelling works.


Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> Herb,
>
> How is it that an English language spelling of a non-English word can be 
> said to be spelled incorrectly?
>
> A simple review of documents pertaining to the "Sissiton" through Google 
> revealed the following treaty with the Sioux (original scan of printed text) 
> regarding the "Sissiton Bands" in which both spellings are used on the same 
> page of the document:
> http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Kappler/vol2/pgimages/sio0956.jpg
>
> Inconsistencies in translations of foreign words into common language seem 
> to occur fairly often.  When in China, just try to order Beijing Duck.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>        Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 
> 2008 8:36 AM
>   
>> C'mon now, if a guy wants to get bent out of shape over being born on a
>> reservation and his treatment of the "Injuns" by "the white man", then
>> can't spell the tribe's name, I say an exception is certainly in order.
>>
>> R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>>     
>>> Herb,
>>> At one time we had a list member named Steve who had a problem with 
>>> spelling
>>> and grammar. At that time it was determined that spelling and 
>>> grammatical
>>> errors were not fair game. It simply would have been to easy.
>>>
>>> Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/10/2008 1:27:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>
>>> My my  Slim, little overboard there, aren't you?
>>>
>>> Nah, I don't REALLY want to  put my 1099 up. I figured John would bow
>>> out. He did.
>>> You missed the  percentage, by a considerable amount.
>>> I don't belong to a fundamentalist  church.
>>> The church I belong to doesn't really tell me to do much of  anything.
>>> I've been there a while, they know that telling me what to do  doesn't
>>> work well
>>> Probably about 1/2 of what we give to charity goes to  our local church.
>>> There are several other entities that we give to as  well.
>>> Cheerleader? Wow. Because I ride with a group of guys that pay their
>>> respects at funerals? And you call ME "a bore".
>>>
>>> I think if you'll  reread my post, I never said anything similar to "the
>>> white man didn't  take it away from them". As a matter of fact, I think I
>>> said just the  opposite. They were defeated by a stronger enemy. Look a
>>> little closer to  home for the idiot.
>>>
>>> I don't care to kiss your ass, not really into  that, but feel free to
>>> invite what guys you can find that are. And, I  don't care where you were
>>> born, you're still an idiot. If you were born on  the Sisseton
>>> reservation in SD, I'd figure you'd at least know the tribe  was Sisseton
>>> not Sissiton.
>>>
>>> And, I never said anything about fences,  but some tribes most definitely
>>> had concepts of "land ownership". They  defended their hunting grounds
>>> against other tribes as fiercely as the  white man defended their fences.
>>> Two cultures clashed, the more advanced  of the two prevailed.
>>>
>>> But, it's a moot point. I was talking about the  founding fathers, not
>>> the "white man" in general. The founding fathers  were not involved in
>>> breaking treaties, decimation of tribes, or the  spreading of smallpox.
>>> South Dakota was the still the mostly unexplored  frontier, and I don't
>>> think they (the founding fathers) had much exposure  to the Sisseton 
>>> tribe.
>>>
>>> And none of that has anything to do with John's  stupid statement about a
>>> "final solution".
>>>
>>> I don't have much in the  way of charity or compassion for folks that are
>>> long since gone. Not much  I can do for them.
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Herb,
>>>>
>>>>  Do you have any idea how much you sound like you're talking out your 
>>>> ass?
>>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've  donated 
>>>> to
>>>> charity?   You're such a bore.  I'm going to  guess that maybe you tithe 
>>>> a
>>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church  because they tell you to--out of
>>>> false compassion.  And the money  goes to your church--not anything 
>>>> real.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Or
>>>
>>>       
>>>> at best a small  percentage.  I know you donate your time riding your
>>>> motorcycle  around for stuff but is that actually giving?  You're a
>>>>  cheerleader.  Great.
>>>>
>>>> As for the Native Americans you  don't seem to have a grasp on history.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Just
>>>
>>>       
>>>> because the Injuns  didn't have a concept of land ownership or fences
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> doesn't
>>>
>>>       
>>>> mean the  white man didn't take it away from them.  You're an idiot. 
>>>> The
>>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by the  white 
>>>> man
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> out
>>>
>>>       
>>>> of greed and arrogance.  There was no need for  that.  To say that they
>>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely  usurps all that compassion and
>>>> charity that you espouse.  You're  full of shit!  I was born on the 
>>>> Sissiton
>>>> reservation in South  Dakota and you can kiss my ass!
>>>>
>>>> Slim
>>>>
>>>> On Sun,  Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> "John,"
>>>>> (at least  you are capable of starting a post properly by addressing me 
>>>>> by
>>>>>  name. I assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're 
>>>>> simply
>>>>> rude.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Go screw  yourself."
>>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you  could send a pic of 
>>>>> how
>>>>> you accomplish it  yourself.)
>>>>>
>>>>> "I've never offered anything like a ""final  solution"".
>>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you  are."
>>>>>
>>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I  am)
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again speak  from total ignorance.
>>>>> I'll make a deal with you though, I'll make  my tax returns for the 
>>>>> last
>>>>> 10 years public on here to show how  much I've given to charity if 
>>>>> you'll
>>>>> do the  same.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the pharisee and  the old woman who went 
>>>>> to
>>>>> the
>>>>> temple to make  sacrifice?)
>>>>>
>>>>> You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect  the size of your mouth is
>>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your  actions are far lacking compared
>>>>> to  either.
>>>>>
>>>>> (In the mouth and ego department its no  contest you win)
>>>>>
>>>>> If the government determines a need  for social charity programs, they
>>>>> should do so by purchasing land  they need. Simple. If it's too
>>>>> expensive, buy  elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> (that's what is happening in this instance  so what's your problem)
>>>>>
>>>>> As to your notion about  "stealing it from the original owners", which
>>>>> land are you talking  about? You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>>>> Some of the  Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning 
>>>>> land".
>>>>>  Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So,  the
>>>>> "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of  transfer, they
>>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger  enemy.
>>>>>
>>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox infested  blankets? do the words
>>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything to  you?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
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