[Rhodes22-list] Foam for outside cushions

Michael D. Weisner mweisner at ebsmed.com
Mon Nov 10 17:43:04 EST 2008


Carol,

We are looking at replacing our cushions and really like the ones at:
http://www.bottomsiders.com/, although we are not sure that they cost less
than the current value of our R22.  You might want to ask for a quote.

In the make it yourself category, you may find what you want at one of these 
sites:
http://www.foamorder.com/closedcell.html (look at the Flo-Tex)
http://www.closedcellfoams.com/minicel.html (look at the Minicell)
http://www.marinefoam.com/closedcellacousticalfoam.html?page_type=flotation-foams
(look at the Ultra Foam)
https://www.outdoortextiles.com/browse.php?CatID=11&SubCatID=66&page=1
(they also have Minicell)

Some of these companies ship free (I know, you're paying for it somewhere.)

Lots to look at and think about.  Let us know if you find a reasonable 
solution.

Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY

From: <CarolN8 at aol.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:03 PM
>I need to replace the cockpit cushions and Stan said I needed to make sure 
>I
> used closed cell foam. So does anyone know where to find closed cell foam 
> in
> my local area? Is there a certain type of store that carries it?
>
> Carol
>
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> Message:  1
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:53:28 -0600
> From: Herb Parsons  <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes  and those who reason only
> ...
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> Thanks John, there are lots of us  around.
>
> Then there are folks who want to deride people because of their  beliefs,
> political views etc. You took a polite discussion about eminent  domain
> and turned it an accusation against Brad and I about "final  solutions".
>
> Maybe you and Slim SHOULD get together. You seem to have  many
> similarities, and he's looking for someone to do weird stuff to his  ass.
>
>
> John Shulick wrote:
>> Steven,
>>
>> As a  fellow alum from Duquesne Univ. I thank you for your support. Over 
>> the
>>  last 30 or so years I was a church soloist and section leader for just
> about
>> every major faith and I've seen many Herbs and some spices as 
>> well.(sorry
>> couldn't resist)
>>
>> John  Shulick
>>
>>
>>
>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>
>>> Herb,
>>>
>>> Do you have any idea how much you  sound like you're talking out your 
>>> ass?
>>> Do you really want to put  up your 1099 to show off what you've donated 
>>> to
>>>  charity?   You're such a bore.  I'm going to guess that maybe  you 
>>> tithe a
>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they  tell you to--out of
>>> false compassion.  And the money goes to  your church--not anything 
>>> real.
>>> Or
>>> at best a small  percentage.  I know you donate your time riding your
>>>  motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving?  You're  a
>>> cheerleader.  Great.
>>>
>>> As for the  Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history.
>>>  Just
>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept of land ownership or  fences
>>> doesn't
>>> mean the white man didn't take it away  from them.  You're an idiot. 
>>> The
>>> Indians were living in  the stone-age and were decimated by the white 
>>> man
>>> out
>>>  of greed and arrogance.  There was no need for that.  To say that  they
>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that  compassion and
>>> charity that you espouse.  You're full of  shit!  I was born on the
>>> Sissiton
>>> reservation in  South Dakota and you can kiss my ass!
>>>
>>>  Slim
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net> 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> "John,"
>>>> (at least you are capable of starting  a post properly by addressing me 
>>>> by
>>>> name. I assumed you were  ignorant at first but now I see you're simply
>>>>  rude.
>>>>
>>>> "Go screw yourself."
>>>>  (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore perhaps you could send a pic 
>>>> of
>>>> how
>>>> you accomplish it  yourself.)
>>>>
>>>> "I've never offered anything like a  ""final solution"".
>>>> You're reference reveals you for what you  are."
>>>>
>>>> (you have no clue as to who or what I  am)
>>>>
>>>> As far as me "detesting" anyone, you again  speak from total ignorance.
>>>> I'll make a deal with you though,  I'll make my tax returns for the 
>>>> last
>>>> 10 years public on here  to show how much I've given to charity if 
>>>> you'll
>>>> do the  same.
>>>>
>>>> (Do you recall the parable of the  pharisee and the old woman who went 
>>>> to
>>>> the
>>>>  temple to make sacrifice?)
>>>>
>>>> You ready to put  up? I doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is
>>>> exceeded  mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking compared
>>>>  to either.
>>>>
>>>> (In the mouth and ego department  its no contest you win)
>>>>
>>>> If the government  determines a need for social charity programs, they
>>>> should do  so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If it's too
>>>>  expensive, buy elsewhere.
>>>>
>>>> (that's what is  happening in this instance so what's your  problem)
>>>>
>>>> As to your notion about "stealing it  from the original owners", which
>>>> land are you talking about?  You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>>> Some of the Indian  tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of "owning 
>>>> land".
>>>> Others  regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So, the
>>>>  "theft" was actually their normally accepted means of transfer,  they
>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger  enemy.
>>>>
>>>> (like white men with guns and smallpox  infested blankets? do the words
>>>> "trail of tears" mean anything  to you?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  --
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 10  Nov 2008 08:57:28 -0600
> From: Herb Parsons  <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes  and those who reason only
> ...
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> Sorry John, let's just say that your  word for it wouldn't be good enough
> for me, you do keep records, right? If  we're just going to say what the
> percentage is, we can say.
>
> Not  interested in your social security. That's not giving, that's the
> government taking.
>
> As to your Wiki entry, thanks for confirming  what I was trying to say.
> It's good to see you are actually capable of  learning. 1830 was a tad
> later than the founding father's  period.
>
>
> John Shulick wrote:
>>
>> "I've got a heck of a  deal for you. I'll buy your boat from you
>> at the price that I  determine is fair, and you can chose to accept it or
>> .... oh wait,  that would be your only choice.
>>
>> You do understand the  implementation of eminent domain, right?"
>>
>> If you came for my  boat I would sink it. If you came for my house I 
>> would
>> burn it. If you  came for my land I would render it unusable. You could 
>> have
>> it after  you have have hauled my dead body off it.
>>
>> "The only thing you  can do to a free man is kill him." Robert A. 
>> Heinlein
>>
>> "You  need to study history a little closer. The trail of tears happened
>>  LONG after the founding fathers did their thing, you can't blame that
>>  one on them."
>>
>> Excerpt from the Wikipedia
>>
>> The  Trail of Tears was the forced relocation of Native Americans from
> their
>> homelands to Indian Territory (present day Oklahoma) in the  Western 
>> United
>> States. The phrase originated from a description of the  removal of the
>> Choctaw Nation in 1831. Many Native Americans suffered  from exposure,
>> disease, and starvation while en route to their  destinations, and many
> died,
>> including, for example, 4,000 of the  15,000 relocated Cherokee. 
>> Thousands
> of
>> enslaved and free  African-Americans (as slaves accompanying their Native
>> American  slaveowners and as former runaway slaves that were assisted by,
>>  assimilated by, or married to members of the tribes) accompanied the
> removed
>> nations on the Trail of Tears.
>> In 1830, the Cherokee,  Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee (Creek), and 
>> Seminole
>> (sometimes  collectively referred to as the Five Civilized Tribes) were
>> living as  autonomous nations in what would be called the American Deep
>> South.  The process of cultural transformation (proposed by GEORGE
> WASHINGTON
>>  and HENERY KNOX) was gaining momentum, especially among the Cherokee 
>> and
>> Choctaw. Indian removal was first proposed by THOMAS JEFFERSON.  Andrew
>> Jackson was the first U.S. President to implement removal with  the 
>> passage
>> of the Indian Removal Act of 1830. In 1831 the Choctaw  were the first to 
>> be
>> removed, and they became the model for all other  removals. After the
>> Choctaw, the Seminole were removed in 1832, the  Creek in 1834, then the
>> Chickasaw in 1837, and finally the Cherokee in  1838.
>>
>>  "I'll make my tax returns for the last
>>  10 years public on here to show how much I've given to charity  if 
>> you'll
>>  do the same."
>>
>> To many pages to post,  HOWEVER I'm Prepared to release my annual social
>> security statement  showing what I've earned in my lifetime and will 
>> write
> in
>> how many  jobs I had to work to make it along with what I gave to
>> charity.(Care  to dance?)
>>
>> John Shulick
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 10  Nov 2008 07:38:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes  and those who reason only
> ...
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>
>
>
> hparsons wrote:
>>
>> "Thanks  John, there are lots of us around."
>>
>> That's why this country  is in such trouble
>>
>> "Then there are folks who want to deride  people because of their 
>> beliefs,
>> political views etc. You took a  polite discussion about eminent domain
>> and turned it an accusation  against Brad and I about "final solutions"."
>>
>> Oh please listen  to the pot calling the kettle black. If you don't want
>> comment about  your conversations then don't post them in a public forum
>> such as  this. Use the back channel or private e-mails to amuse 
>> yourselves
>> with  your conservative nonsense, please leave the rest of us out of it.
>>
>> "Maybe you and Slim SHOULD get together. You seem to have many
>> similarities, and he's looking for someone to do weird stuff to his 
>> ass."
>>
>> I would consider performing with Steven if he were so  inclined and the
>> time presented itself. the only ass I'm concerned  with is the one I'm
>> responding to right now.
>>
>>
>>  John Shulick wrote:
>>> Steven,
>>>
>>> As a fellow  alum from Duquesne Univ. I thank you for your support. Over
>>>  the
>>> last 30 or so years I was a church soloist and section leader  for just
>>> about
>>> every major faith and I've seen many  Herbs and some spices as 
>>> well.(sorry
>>> couldn't resist)
>>>
>>> John  Shulick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Steven Alm  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Herb,
>>>>
>>>> Do you have any idea how much you sound  like you're talking out your
>>>> ass?
>>>> Do you  really want to put up your 1099 to show off what you've 
>>>> donated
>>>> to
>>>> charity?   You're such a  bore.  I'm going to guess that maybe you 
>>>> tithe
>>>>  a
>>>> full 10% to your fundamentalist church because they tell you  to--out 
>>>> of
>>>> false compassion.  And the money goes to your  church--not anything 
>>>> real.
>>>> Or
>>>> at best a small  percentage.  I know you donate your time riding your
>>>>  motorcycle around for stuff but is that actually giving?  You're  a
>>>> cheerleader.  Great.
>>>>
>>>> As  for the Native Americans you don't seem to have a grasp on history.
>>>> Just
>>>> because the Injuns didn't have a concept  of land ownership or fences
>>>> doesn't
>>>> mean the  white man didn't take it away from them.  You're an idiot. 
>>>> The
>>>> Indians were living in the stone-age and were decimated by  the white 
>>>> man
>>>> out
>>>> of greed and  arrogance.  There was no need for that.  To say that 
>>>> they
>>>> simply met a stronger enemy completely usurps all that  compassion and
>>>> charity that you espouse.  You're full of  shit!  I was born on the
>>>> Sissiton
>>>>  reservation in South Dakota and you can kiss my  ass!
>>>>
>>>> Slim
>>>>
>>>> On  Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 10:36 PM, John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  "John,"
>>>>> (at least you are capable of starting a post  properly by addressing 
>>>>> me
>>>>> by
>>>>> name. I  assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see you're 
>>>>> simply
>>>>> rude.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Go  screw yourself."
>>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore  perhaps you could send a pic 
>>>>> of
>>>>> how
>>>>>  you accomplish it yourself.)
>>>>>
>>>>> "I've  never offered anything like a ""final solution"".
>>>>> You're  reference reveals you for what you  are."
>>>>>
>>>>> (you have no clue as to who or  what I am)
>>>>>
>>>>> As far as me "detesting"  anyone, you again speak from total 
>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>> I'll make a  deal with you though, I'll make my tax returns for the 
>>>>> last
>>>>> 10 years public on here to show how much I've given  to charity if
>>>>> you'll
>>>>> do the  same.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Do you recall the parable of  the pharisee and the old woman who went
>>>>>  to
>>>>> the
>>>>> temple to make  sacrifice?)
>>>>>
>>>>> You ready to put up? I  doubt it. I suspect the size of your mouth is
>>>>> exceeded  mainly by your ego, and your actions are far lacking 
>>>>> compared
>>>>> to  either.
>>>>>
>>>>> (In the mouth and ego  department its no contest you win)
>>>>>
>>>>> If  the government determines a need for social charity programs, 
>>>>> they
>>>>> should do so by purchasing land they need. Simple. If  it's too
>>>>> expensive, buy  elsewhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> (that's what is happening  in this instance so what's your  problem)
>>>>>
>>>>> As to your notion about  "stealing it from the original owners", which
>>>>> land are you  talking about? You'll have to be a little more specific.
>>>>>  Some of the Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of  "owning
>>>>> land".
>>>>> Others regularly took  land from each other by armed conflict. So, the
>>>>> "theft"  was actually their normally accepted means of transfer,  they
>>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger  enemy.
>>>>>
>>>>> (like white men with guns and  smallpox infested blankets? do the 
>>>>> words
>>>>> "trail of tears"  mean anything to  you?)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  --
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>
> http://www.nabble.com/for-Brad%27s-eyes-and-those-who-reason-only-...-tp20405744p20414236.html
>>>>>  Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at  Nabble.com.
>>>>>
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> Message:  4
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:45:50 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes  and those who reason only
> ...
> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
>
>
>
> hparsons wrote:
>>
>> Sorry  John, let's just say that your word for it wouldn't be good enough
>>  for me, you do keep records, right? If we're just going to say what the
>> percentage is, we can say.
>>
>> Didn't think you had the  stones to back up your BS
>>
>> "Not interested in your  social security. That's not giving, that's the
>> government  taking."
>>
>> Not interested in ever seeing me collect social  security would be more
>> accurate
>>
>> "As to your  Wiki entry, thanks for confirming what I was trying to say.
>> It's good  to see you are actually capable of learning. 1830 was a tad
>> later  than the founding father's period."
>>
>> Obviously you have  trouble comprehending what you read.
>>
>>
>> John Shulick  wrote:
>>>
>>> "I've got a heck of a deal for you. I'll buy  your boat from you
>>> at the price that I determine is fair, and you  can chose to accept it 
>>> or
>>> .... oh wait, that would be your only  choice.
>>>
>>> You do understand the implementation of  eminent domain, right?"
>>>
>>> If you came for my boat I  would sink it. If you came for my house I 
>>> would
>>> burn it. If you  came for my land I would render it unusable. You could
>>>  have
>>> it after you have have hauled my dead body off it.
>>>
>>> "The only thing you can do to a free man is kill  him." Robert A. 
>>> Heinlein
>>>
>>> "You need to study history a  little closer. The trail of tears happened
>>> LONG after the  founding fathers did their thing, you can't blame that
>>> one on  them."
>>>
>>> Excerpt from the  Wikipedia
>>>
>>> The Trail of Tears was the forced relocation  of Native Americans from
>>> their
>>> homelands to Indian  Territory (present day Oklahoma) in the Western
>>> United
>>>  States. The phrase originated from a description of the removal of  the
>>> Choctaw Nation in 1831. Many Native Americans suffered from  exposure,
>>> disease, and starvation while en route to their  destinations, and many
>>> died,
>>> including, for example,  4,000 of the 15,000 relocated Cherokee. 
>>> Thousands
>>> of
>>>  enslaved and free African-Americans (as slaves accompanying their 
>>> Native
>>> American slaveowners and as former runaway slaves that were  assisted 
>>> by,
>>> assimilated by, or married to members of the tribes)  accompanied the
>>> removed
>>> nations on the Trail of  Tears.
>>> In 1830, the Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Muscogee  (Creek), and 
>>> Seminole
>>> (sometimes collectively referred to as the  Five Civilized Tribes) were
>>> living as autonomous nations in what  would be called the American Deep
>>> South. The process of cultural  transformation (proposed by GEORGE
>>> WASHINGTON
>>> and  HENERY KNOX) was gaining momentum, especially among the Cherokee 
>>> and
>>> Choctaw. Indian removal was first proposed by THOMAS  JEFFERSON. Andrew
>>> Jackson was the first U.S. President to  implement removal with the
>>> passage
>>> of the Indian  Removal Act of 1830. In 1831 the Choctaw were the first 
>>> to
>>>  be
>>> removed, and they became the model for all other removals.  After the
>>> Choctaw, the Seminole were removed in 1832, the Creek in  1834, then the
>>> Chickasaw in 1837, and finally the Cherokee in  1838.
>>>
>>>  "I'll make my tax returns for the last
>>>  10 years public on here to show how much I've given to  charity if 
>>> you'll
>>>  do the same."
>>>
>>> To  many pages to post, HOWEVER I'm Prepared to release my annual 
>>> social
>>> security statement showing what I've earned in my lifetime  and will 
>>> write
>>> in
>>> how many jobs I had to work to make  it along with what I gave to
>>> charity.(Care to  dance?)
>>>
>>> John Shulick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>  __________________________________________________
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> Message:  5
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 10:46:42 -0500
> From: "Michael D. Weisner"  <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] for Brad's eyes  and those who reason only
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>
> Herb,
>
> What are you trying to say?  This  is an attempt to phonetically spell a
> foreign word, the name that they  were known as, not just a name that was
> applied to a location.
>
> You  guessed wrong.
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue  River, NY
>
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent:  Monday, November 10,
> 2008 9:50 AM
>> I'd say the indians didn't name  the reservation, so my guess would be
>> that the English spelling  works.
>>
>>
>> Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>>  Herb,
>>>
>>> How is it that an English language spelling of a  non-English word can 
>>> be
>>> said to be spelled  incorrectly?
>>>
>>> A simple review of documents pertaining  to the "Sissiton" through 
>>> Google
>>> revealed the following treaty  with the Sioux (original scan of printed
>>> text)
>>>  regarding the "Sissiton Bands" in which both spellings are used on the
>>> same
>>> page of the document:
>>>  http://digital.library.okstate.edu/Kappler/vol2/pgimages/sio0956.jpg
>>>
>>>  Inconsistencies in translations of foreign words into common language
>>> seem
>>> to occur fairly often.  When in China, just  try to order Beijing Duck.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v  Shanghaid'd Summer ('81)
>>>        Nissequogue  River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "Herb Parsons"  <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Monday, November 
>>> 10,
>>> 2008  8:36 AM
>>>
>>>> C'mon now, if a guy wants to get bent out  of shape over being born on 
>>>> a
>>>> reservation and his treatment of  the "Injuns" by "the white man", then
>>>> can't spell the tribe's  name, I say an exception is certainly in 
>>>> order.
>>>>
>>>> R22RumRunner at aol.com  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Herb,
>>>>> At one  time we had a list member named Steve who had a problem  with
>>>>> spelling
>>>>> and grammar. At that  time it was determined that spelling and
>>>>>  grammatical
>>>>> errors were not fair game. It simply would  have been to easy.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Rummy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In a message  dated 11/10/2008 1:27:02 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>>  hparsons at parsonsys.com writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> My  my  Slim, little overboard there, aren't  you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah, I don't REALLY want to   put my 1099 up. I figured John would bow
>>>>> out. He  did.
>>>>> You missed the  percentage, by a considerable  amount.
>>>>> I don't belong to a fundamentalist   church.
>>>>> The church I belong to doesn't really tell me to  do much of 
>>>>> anything.
>>>>> I've been there a while, they  know that telling me what to do 
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> work  well
>>>>> Probably about 1/2 of what we give to charity goes  to  our local
>>>>> church.
>>>>> There are  several other entities that we give to as  well.
>>>>>  Cheerleader? Wow. Because I ride with a group of guys that pay  their
>>>>> respects at funerals? And you call ME "a  bore".
>>>>>
>>>>> I think if you'll  reread  my post, I never said anything similar to
>>>>>  "the
>>>>> white man didn't  take it away from them". As a  matter of fact, I 
>>>>> think
>>>>> I
>>>>> said just  the  opposite. They were defeated by a stronger enemy. Look 
>>>>> a
>>>>> little closer to  home for the  idiot.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't care to kiss your ass,  not really into  that, but feel free 
>>>>> to
>>>>> invite what  guys you can find that are. And, I  don't care where you
>>>>> were
>>>>> born, you're still an idiot. If  you were born on  the Sisseton
>>>>> reservation in SD, I'd  figure you'd at least know the tribe  was
>>>>>  Sisseton
>>>>> not  Sissiton.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, I never said anything  about fences,  but some tribes most
>>>>>  definitely
>>>>> had concepts of "land ownership". They   defended their hunting 
>>>>> grounds
>>>>> against other tribes as  fiercely as the  white man defended their
>>>>>  fences.
>>>>> Two cultures clashed, the more advanced  of  the two prevailed.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, it's a moot  point. I was talking about the  founding fathers, 
>>>>> not
>>>>>  the "white man" in general. The founding fathers  were not involved 
>>>>> in
>>>>> breaking treaties, decimation of tribes, or the   spreading of 
>>>>> smallpox.
>>>>> South Dakota was the still the  mostly unexplored  frontier, and I 
>>>>> don't
>>>>> think they  (the founding fathers) had much exposure  to the  Sisseton
>>>>> tribe.
>>>>>
>>>>>  And none of that has anything to do with John's  stupid statement 
>>>>> about
>
>>>>> a
>>>>> "final  solution".
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have much in  the  way of charity or compassion for folks that
>>>>>  are
>>>>> long since gone. Not much  I can do for  them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steven Alm  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Herb,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Do you have any  idea how much you sound like you're talking out 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>>  ass?
>>>>>> Do you really want to put up your 1099 to show  off what you've
>>>>>> donated
>>>>>>  to
>>>>>> charity?   You're such a bore.  I'm  going to  guess that maybe you
>>>>>>  tithe
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> full 10% to your  fundamentalist church  because they tell you 
>>>>>> to--out
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> false compassion.   And the money  goes to your church--not anything
>>>>>>  real.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  Or
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> at best a  small  percentage.  I know you donate your time riding 
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> motorcycle  around for stuff but is that  actually giving?  You're a
>>>>>>   cheerleader.  Great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As  for the Native Americans you  don't seem to have a grasp on
>>>>>>  history.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  Just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> because  the Injuns  didn't have a concept of land ownership or 
>>>>>> fences
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  doesn't
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> mean  the  white man didn't take it away from them.  You're an 
>>>>>> idiot.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> Indians were living  in the stone-age and were decimated by the 
>>>>>> white
>>>>>>  man
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>  out
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> of greed  and arrogance.  There was no need for  that.  To say that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> simply met a stronger  enemy completely  usurps all that compassion 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>  charity that you espouse.  You're  full of shit!  I was born on  the
>>>>>> Sissiton
>>>>>> reservation in  South  Dakota and you can kiss my  ass!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Slim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun,  Nov 9, 2008  at 10:36 PM, John Shulick <jsbudda at verizon.net>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  "John,"
>>>>>>> (at least  you are capable of  starting a post properly by 
>>>>>>> addressing
>>>>>>>  me
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>  name. I  assumed you were ignorant at first but now I see  you're
>>>>>>> simply
>>>>>>>  rude.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Go screw   yourself."
>>>>>>> (Sorry to old to bend that way anymore  perhaps you  could send a 
>>>>>>> pic
>>>>>>>  of
>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>> you accomplish  it  yourself.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  "I've never offered anything like a ""final   solution"".
>>>>>>> You're reference reveals you for what  you  are."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (you  have no clue as to who or what I   am)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As far as me  "detesting" anyone, you again speak  from total
>>>>>>> ignorance.
>>>>>>> I'll make  a deal with you though, I'll make  my tax returns for 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>> 10 years  public on here to show how  much I've given to charity  if
>>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>>> do the   same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (Do you recall  the parable of the pharisee and  the old woman who
>>>>>>> went
>>>>>>>  to
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> temple to  make  sacrifice?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  You ready to put up? I doubt it. I suspect  the size of your mouth 
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> exceeded mainly by your ego, and your   actions are far lacking
>>>>>>>  compared
>>>>>>> to   either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (In the mouth  and ego department its no  contest you  win)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the government  determines a need  for social charity programs,
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> should do so by  purchasing land  they need. Simple. If it's  too
>>>>>>> expensive, buy   elsewhere.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (that's  what is happening in this instance  so what's your 
>>>>>>> problem)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As to your  notion about  "stealing it from the original owners",
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> land are you  talking  about? You'll have to be a little more
>>>>>>> specific.
>>>>>>> Some of  the  Indian tribes didn't ascribe to the notion of  "owning
>>>>>>> land".
>>>>>>>   Others regularly took land from each other by armed conflict. So,
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> "theft" was  actually their normally accepted means of  transfer, 
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> simply were defeated by a stronger   enemy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (like white men  with guns and smallpox infested  blankets? do the
>>>>>>> words
>>>>>>> "trail of  tears" mean anything to   you?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon,  10 Nov 2008 09:46:51 -0600
> From: "ben"  <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list]  my last word on the election
> To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'"  <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:  <000601c9434b$8e17c360$aa474a20$@com>
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> That was very close
> Haiku is a fine art  form
> The first line needs work
>
>
> -----Original  Message-----
> From:  rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org]  On Behalf Of stan
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:53
> To: The Rhodes  22 mail list
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] my last word on the  election
>
> We Americans have not changed
>
> we still  rely on black folk
>
> to clean up our  mess
>
>
> ss
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> Message:  7
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:56:17 -0800 (PST)
> From: Just bent  <j.bulfer at jbtek.com>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  question about  electricity
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather.  Had a great day. When 
> we
> got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you  would get shocked. I
> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it  static electricity from 
> the
> storm?
> Jb
>
> Jb  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
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> Message:  8
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:13:26 -0500
> From: "Ron Singerman"  <sail at tds.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] St Petersburg boat show. For  stan
> To: "Rhodes list" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Message-ID:  <D1D6AAF915EB4FEE9B55C76F6D2FFE4C at computer>
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> stan,
>
> Will you be  represented at the St Pete show?
>
> Fair winds and following  seas,
>
>>>ron<<
> S/V  Serenity
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon,  10 Nov 2008 11:15:03 EST
> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re:  [Rhodes22-list] question about electricity
> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID:  <cb9.3c17dc54.3649b807 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"
>
> JB,
>
> Yes, what you experienced is static  electricity. It wasn't caused by the
> storms, but it is a natural  phenomenon that has been discussed previously 
> on
>
> this forum many  years ago. Your boat is basically a "plastic" boat. You 
> have
>
> plastic  sails and metal thrown in for good measure. The sails are the 
> most
> likely culprit and the fiberglass and the rest of the boat are the 
> storage
> battery. The shock is even more noticeable when bare skin is  involved, 
> like
> a  bare
> belly hanging over a rail. That will really  get your attention, even when
> drunk.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a  message dated 11/10/2008 10:57:29 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> j.bulfer at jbtek.com writes:
>
>
> Went  sailing yesterday in  somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When 
> we
> got  back to the  dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked.  I
> unhooked the  battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity  from
> the
> storm?
> Jb
>
> Jb   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
> -- 
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> Message:  10
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:20:07 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  question about  shocking Rhodes 22's
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
> Jay:
>
> You are not the first to experience  this!  Several years ago, Carol Nixon 
> of
> Colorado had that very  problem.  She does not usually respond to this 
> list
> although she is  still shown in the digested listing.
>
> You might want to contact  her to find out what she did.  We referred to 
> her
> as lady with  shocking Rhodes 22.
>
> I posted pictures of her and her boat last  spring.
>
> Ed K
>
>
>
> Just bent wrote:
>>
>> Went  sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When
>> we  got back to the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. 
>> I
>> unhooked the battery & still got shocked. Was it static  electricity from
>> the storm?
>> Jb
>>
>> Jb  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
>>
>
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>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message:  11
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:22:46 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  Sailboats with  water in desert...
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Imagine, sailboats with water in the desert.   Maybe that is where all 
> Rummy's
> water is?
>
> Nice pictures.
>
> Ed K
>
>
>
> quote author="Just bent">
> Went sailing  yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had a great day. When 
> we
> got back to  the dock, when you touch the boat, you would get shocked. I
> unhooked the  battery & still got shocked. Was it static electricity from 
> the
> storm?
> Jb
>
> Jb  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
> http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
>
>
> -- 
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message:  12
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:25:00 EST
> From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about shocking  Rhodes 22's
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Message-ID:  <d4e.3e7b8fe7.3649ba5c at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Jay,
> The last time we discussed this, I actually  took a volt meter and 
> measured
> 22 volts. I took the measurement from  the offending rail and grounded the
> negative end to the outboard  which was in the water. The meter went to 
> 22/23
>
> volts and then  almost instantly disappeared. Waiting a few minutes 
> produced
> the
> same results. Since our boats are all 12 volt systems with 110 volt thrown
> in
> occasionally, it ruled out any source within the boat. The  amperage was
> really
> low, so it was more of a nuisance shock than anything  dangerous.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:20:30 A.M.  Eastern Standard Time,
> ekroposki at charter.net  writes:
>
>
> Jay:
>
> You are not the first to experience this!   Several  years ago, Carol 
> Nixon of
> Colorado had that very  problem.  She does  not usually respond to this 
> list
> although she  is still shown in the  digested listing.
>
> You might want to  contact her to find out what  she did.  We referred to 
> her
> as  lady with shocking Rhodes 22.
>
> I  posted pictures of her and her  boat last spring.
>
> Ed  K
>
>
>
> Just bent wrote:
>>
>> Went sailing yesterday in  somewhat stormy weather. Had a great  day. 
>> When
>> we got back to the  dock, when you touch the boat, you  would get 
>> shocked. I
>> unhooked the  battery & still got  shocked. Was it static electricity 
>> from
>> the  storm?
>>  Jb
>>
>> Jb   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
>>   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
>>   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
>>   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
>>
>
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> Message:  13
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:25:33 -0800 (PST)
> From: Tootle  <ekroposki at charter.net>
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list]  When you are  dealing with Democrats, think
> of this ...
> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
> Brad,
>
> When you are dealing with Democrats,  think of  this:
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows
> _to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html
>
> Ed  K
> -- 
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>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message:  14
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:30:42 EST
> From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] When you are dealing with  Democrats,
> think of this ...
> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Ed,
> Must have been all republicans beneath him.  Sure was a waste of a good
> drink
> though.  :)
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:26:28 A.M. Eastern  Standard Time,
> ekroposki at charter.net  writes:
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows
> _to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html
>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message:  15
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:46:21 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] When you are  dealing with Democrats,
> think of this ...
> To:  rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
>
> Ed,
>
> Amusing. And you thought democrats  don't believe in "Trickle Down 
> Economics"
>
> John  Shulick
>
>
>
> http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2008/11/09/2008-11-09_councilman_vows
> _to_quit_alcohol_after_pu.html
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message:  16
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:56:20 EST
> From:  R22RumRunner at aol.com
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] (Humor) Banister of  Life...
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As You  Slide  Down the Banister of Life, Remember:
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> Message:  17
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:57:03 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Shulick  <jsbudda at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about  shocking Rhodes 22's
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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> Rummy,
>
> Was there a consensus reached about  electrical grounding on a sailboat? 
> I've
> given the matter some thought and  could make an argument either way but
> would appreciate any input from more  experienced people such as yourself.
>
> Thank you
> John  Shulick
>
>
> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>
>> Jay,
>> The last  time we discussed this, I actually took a volt meter and 
>> measured
>
>> 22 volts. I took the measurement from the offending rail and grounded 
>> the
>> negative end to the outboard which was in the water. The  meter went to
>> 22/23
>> volts and then almost instantly  disappeared. Waiting a few minutes
>> produced the
>> same  results. Since our boats are all 12 volt systems with 110 volt 
>> thrown
>>  in
>> occasionally, it ruled out any source within the boat. The  amperage was
>> really
>>  low, so it was more of a nuisance  shock than anything dangerous.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/10/2008 11:20:30 A.M. Eastern  Standard Time,
>> ekroposki at charter.net writes:
>>
>>
>> Jay:
>>
>> You are not the first to experience this!   Several  years ago, Carol 
>> Nixon
>> of
>> Colorado had that very  problem.  She does  not usually respond to this
>> list
>>  although she is still shown in the  digested listing.
>>
>> You might want to contact her to find out what  she did.   We referred to
>> her
>> as lady with shocking Rhodes 22.
>>
>> I  posted pictures of her and her boat last spring.
>>
>> Ed  K
>>
>>
>>
>> Just bent  wrote:
>>>
>>> Went sailing yesterday in  somewhat  stormy weather. Had a great day. 
>>> When
>>> we got back to the   dock, when you touch the boat, you would get 
>>> shocked.
>>>  I
>>> unhooked the  battery & still got shocked. Was it  static electricity 
>>> from
>>> the  storm?
>>>  Jb
>>>
>>> Jb   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
>>>   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
>>>   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
>>>   http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
>>>
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> Message:  18
> Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 11:58:09 -0500
> From: "Michael D. Weisner"  <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] question about  electricity
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> Jb,
>
> The first pic is just fabulous!   For an northeast boater, the
> foothills/mountains show that it is not like  any water that we sail in 
> here
> on the LI Sound.  Beautiful - and the  water still feels wet and you can 
> sail
> on the stuff?  Here, boats are  hauled and wrapped, the leaves have nearly
> all fallen (we did have one of  the prettiest autumns in years) ...  Now 
> if
> only we could sail on  snow!
>
> As far as static electricity accumulating on the hull goes, it is 
> probably
> due to the lack of humidity.  Just as it occurs on  airplanes, the winds
> redistribute electrons, causing a charge to build up  on the insulated
> (fiberglass) hull.  The simplest way to remedy this  is to provide a 
> leakage
> path to the water.  All conductive metal  objects (motor housing, rails,
> mast, rigging, etc.) should be connected  together via a small wire (no 
> real
> current is involved) and terminated at  a fixture that is exposed to the
> water.  Care should be taken to make  connection to the water away from
> gasoline vapors (not at the motor or  mount) and using a "sacrificial 
> anode",
> something that you would not miss,  as it may be consumed by galvanic
> corrosion in the process of transferring  the charge.  See
> http://www.boatus.com/boattech/casey/23.htm
>
> The creation of static  electricity in this manner has been a real problem 
> in
> biking (bicycles)  due to the use of nylon suits and composite helmets. 
> Some
> people  have had good results using antistatic preparations such as fabric
> softeners to solve the problem.  While treating the hull with wax 
> increases
> the static generation ability, applying fabric softener  solutions may 
> reduce
> the generated potential, although the combination may  cause an unsafe, 
> very
> slippery surface.
>
> You need to find a way to  harness the potential energy that you have 
> created
> rather than just  discharge it.  How about a static electricity motor - I
> think that  John Galt knew something about this ...
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer  ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Just bent"  <j.bulfer at jbtek.com> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 
> 10:56
>
> AM
>>
>> Went sailing yesterday in somewhat stormy weather. Had  a great day. When
>> we
>> got back to the dock, when you touch the  boat, you would get shocked. I
>> unhooked the battery & still got  shocked. Was it static electricity from
>> the
>> storm?
>>  Jb
>>
>> Jb  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01925.jpeg
>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01927.jpeg
>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01930.jpeg
>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p20422568/DSC01931.jpeg
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