[Rhodes22-list] Complaint to Slim - Political reply to his Political Post -

[Brad Haslett]

Ed,

Read this article in its entirety -

http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2008/11/12/palin/index.html

Ms. Paglia and I share few political philosophies but she is an astute
observer of American culture.  This is one passage from her latest
article that I found most interesting-

"Liberal Democrats are going to wake up from their sadomasochistic,
anti-Palin orgy with a very big hangover. The evil genie released
during this sorry episode will not so easily go back into its bottle.
A shocking level of irrational emotionalism and at times infantile
rage was exposed at the heart of current Democratic ideology --
contradicting Democratic core principles of compassion, tolerance and
independent thought. One would have to look back to the Eisenhower
1950s for parallels to this grotesque lock-step parade of bourgeois
provincialism, shallow groupthink and blind prejudice."

She of course is speaking about Gov. Palin, but we're witnessing the
same mindset at work against Herb.  Slim's request is a perfect
example of the "chilling effect" we've fought so hard to prevent these
last 232 years.

BTW, did you see the news report last night where in California a gay
rights activist violently knocked a cross from an elderly womans hands
and then stomped it?  If it had been a Koran he would have already
been arrested for a hate crime.

Brad

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 6:17 AM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
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> Slim:
>
> What you and some of your back nefarious back channel comrades see as
> diatribe is just defense of religious beliefs.  It is obvious Herb supports
> the right to life and values Christianity as his religious belief.
>
> It is important to understand a fundamental concept of Marxism is to replace
> the belief by people in God with the notion that humans have the intellect
> to correctly solve all problems.  This is the reason for the conflict
> between those who choose to believe in God or even accept the notion that
> there may be a God with the liberal view that their reasoning is correct and
> their opinions are right.
>
> The 'right to life issue' divides many.  Locally in Greenville it is causing
> a large turmoil in the local Catholic Church.  Today's newspaper which
> enjoys controversy to sell its newspapers even headlines the issue between
> the Pastor of the oldest Catholic Church in South Carolina with some
> parishioners.
>
> Go to the newspaper's web site and see the large type print.  That was the
> Headline across the front page of today's paper:
> http://www.greenvilleonline.com/
>
> Take time to read his message on his Church's website.  Tolerate if you will
> religious citations he uses to support his message:
> http://www.stmarysgvl.org/ourparish/2008-dedication-of-the-lateran-basilica-in-rome
>
> Just because you believe abortion is o.k., understand not everybody believes
> killing any human life or secret murder is.  Once life begins, ending that
> life is killing.  No different from the Nazi death camps, the Soviet Gulag,
> etc.
>
> I saw Herb responding to attacks and snide remarks on his beliefs.  John
> S.'s remarks and innuendo set the tone.  He is the troll if there is one.
>
> Yes the majority believe you are correct.  But that does not make it right.
> The majority elected Hitler and sent how many to death camps in Germany?
>
> Ed K
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> Brad Haslett-2 wrote:
>>
>> Slim,
>>
>> Well, at least you get extra credit for making your view public and
>> for not taking a back-channel approach, but you are wrong. I don't see
>> a man defending his reputation vigorously as engaging in vitriol.
>> This group is no different than any other and is certainly capable of
>> "gang behavior", and quite frankly, several of you have ganged-up on
>> Herb as of late, including you Slim.
>>
>> "If you seek perfection, look in the mirror.  If you find it there,
>> seek it in others".  M. Forbes
>>
>> Is what you are asking a sneak preview of the Fairness Doctrine? I
>> don't like it already!  To my knowledge the only self-admitted
>> "troll" on the list has already departed.  Herb is no troll.
>>
>> Slim, you and your comrades do what you think is best, but I think
>> you're being unfair and selfish.
>>
>> Brad
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>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:36 AM, Steven Alm <stevenalm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> To JLo and MJM,
>>>
>>> We have a troll on our list that has been causing problems and instilling
>>> hatred and posting foul diatribes for months now.  He has caused many to
>>> filter him out and/or delete his posts in disgust.  I, myself have
>>> received
>>> numerous back-channel messages complaining about him and his rude and
>>> inappropriate posts.  This should come to a halt.  As a member of this
>>> fine
>>> community of Rhodes owners for some 8 or 9 years, I've seen only one
>>> other
>>> member who has shown such a disrespect for others here on the Rhodes
>>> list.
>>> That individual was ultimately relieved of his status here and thankfully
>>> is
>>> no longer a member.  I recommend that this troll be sanctioned and no
>>> longer
>>> be allowed to participate in our otherwise polite and courteous exchange
>>> of
>>> sailing and/or other topics.  He has disrupted our list for too long and
>>> has
>>> caused too many arguments for the rest of us to be comfortable with
>>> posting
>>> our usual thoughts on any given topic without being lambasted with his
>>> vitriol.  He continues to insult anyone and everyone who disagrees with
>>> his
>>> positions and in doing so has created an environment of hostility that
>>> has
>>> made the Rhodes list a den of venom.  I'm referring to Herb Parsons.  I
>>> ask
>>> that you consider removing him from our group.  He contributes little
>>> other
>>> than arguments and stifles many from contributing to this wonderful
>>> forum.
>>> I want him out!
>>>
>>> Steve Alm  aka  "Slim"
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