[Rhodes22-list] Elle already has the shotgun out...on another issue

elle watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Thu Nov 13 14:56:49 EST 2008


>I suspect you'll have an easier time finding one than becoming one.

Not really.....

elle

We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.

1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)


--- On Thu, 11/13/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:

> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elle already has the shotgun out...on another issue
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 2:47 PM
> I suspect you'll have an easier time finding one than
> becoming one.
> 
> I found your story about height interesting. I dated a girl
> in college 
> that as 4'11" (I'm 6 foot even, my breadth has
> changed since then, but 
> not my height). Actually, she was a close friend of
> Brad's wife, Karen. 
> Anyway. We went out on a date, and the next day Karen asked
> me how it 
> went. I told her not so great. She was disappointed, but
> not surprised, 
> I did a lot of "one time" dates back then, I
> typically know what I like 
> pretty quick.
> 
> However, Sheri was a friend of Karen's - her
> preacher's daughter, and 
> she was curious as to why I'd "made my
> decision".
> 
> I told her I couldn't figure out how to reach her to
> kiss her good night.
> 
> The next day, there was a footstool outside my dorm door. I
> never asked 
> if it was Brad, Karen, or Sheri that sent it.
> 
> However, I DID get a lot more resourceful as I got older.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> elle wrote:
> > It ain't working...;^)     
> >
> > I guess I'd rather find one than be one...
> >
> > ;^)
> >
> > elle
> >
> > We can't change the angle of the wind....but we
> can adjust our sails.
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"
>   (Lady in Red)
> >
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/13/08, Herb Parsons
> <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Elle already has the
> shotgun out...on another issue
> >> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >> Date: Thursday, November 13, 2008, 1:56 PM
> >> But .... but .... but Elle, you were becoming one
> of the
> >> guys!!!!
> >>
> >> elle wrote:
> >>     
> >>> My, my...interesting posts again today. Maybe
> I'll
> >>>       
> >> drop my 2¢ in the bucket, too.
> >>     
> >>> Can youse guys (you know who you are) back off
> the
> >>>       
> >> testosterone pills for a few days?
> >>     
> >>> I thoroughly enjoy the gvie & take of the
> >>>       
> >> political discussions...the points brought up by
> both sides
> >> and the counterpoint by the other. Even though I
> despise
> >> politics, I find that the columnists and videos
> gave me new
> >> perspective on the political parties.
> >>     
> >>> HOWEVER....that does not mean that I agreed
> with all
> >>>       
> >> or any of the postings....but I appreciate the
> insight.
> >>     
> >>> But any enlightened  discussion is so totally
> >>>       
> >> destroyed by the 'quien es mas macho'
> attitude of
> >> you guys.
> >>     
> >>> You are GOING TO DISAGREE. Accept it. Get OVER
> it.
> >>>       
> >> State your positions and document them. If your
> argument is
> >> strong it will stand on its own. You are all
> right. And you
> >> are all wrong. And sometimes you git it right or
> wrong by
> >> half. But y'allwill never cross the line to
> the other
> >> side, which is also OK......
> >>     
> >>> But the namecalling HAS to STOP. It does
> nothing to
> >>>       
> >> enhance your argument; on the contrary, it weakens
> you if
> >> you can find no other way to convince someone than
> by
> >> bullying. 
> >>     
> >>> And you guys are bullies. Loud bullies. 
> >>>
> >>> I grew up with tremendous verbal abuse, and,
> guys,
> >>>       
> >> this is just as bad. And there is no need for it.
> Calling
> >> another lister vile names (  openly and overtly
> ...one of
> >> you does it in your face & another uses more
> finesse,
> >> but namecalling is that, no matter how it is
> >> presented....(like dog doo on a plate or in a
> plastic bag) 
> >> you KNOW who you are!) and does nothing to
> strengthen your
> >> argument...it just diminishes you in my eyes and
> in the eyes
> >> of others.
> >>     
> >>> I seriously cannot take more of this. I am
> entering a
> >>>       
> >> very stressful time of year and turn to the list
> as Iwould
> >> to a gathering of friends where I can sit back
> & let the
> >> karma swirl around me & raise my spirits.
> >>     
> >>> It hasn't been happening.
> >>>
> >>> Please ...reread your posts. Please...ask if
> the
> >>>       
> >> sarcasm & spite & vitriol are really
> necessary. Ask
> >> if you canmake your point without diminishing your
> reader.
> >>     
> >>> Several literate & interesting posters
> have been
> >>>       
> >> run off recently...and although I do defend your
> right to
> >> state your piece, you don't have the right to
> be
> >> repeatedly offensive....and when you call names,
> you ARE
> >> offensive. 
> >>     
> >>> And none of this 'I didn't really mean
> >>>       
> >> XXXX..he just took it that way." That's
> crap. You
> >> all know exactly what you are doing & the
> impact you
> >> want to have.
> >>     
> >>> Later I'll tell ya why I have the other
> shotgun
> >>>       
> >> out....
> >>     
> >>> elle
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> We can't change the angle of the
> wind....but we
> >>>       
> >> can adjust our sails.
> >>     
> >>> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06 
> "WaterMusic"
> >>>       
> >>   (Lady in Red)
> >>     
> >>>       
> >>>
> >>>
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