[Rhodes22-list] Complaint to List Admin

[Herb Parsons]

Read your message bud, you posted it. See if you can vette all of the 
information yourself. Learn some manners, come back with a new attitude, 
see what happens.

Michael D. Weisner wrote:
> Herb,
>
> What facts would that be?
>
> Mike
> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
> Nissequogue River, NY
>
> From: "Herb Parsons" <hparsons at parsonsys.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 
> 2008 4:16 PM
>   
>> Sorry Mike, your facts are in error.
>>
>>
>> Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>>     
>>> Maybe if Herb signed his posts as is required by the rules of "da list", 
>>> the
>>> filter could be set to trash all email with "Herb Parsons" in the body. 
>>> Of
>>> course, those of you who use digest format will not see any mail at all,
>>> since a day does not go by without a response from or about Herb.  Herb, 
>>> do
>>> ya feel the love?
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>>> Nissequogue River, NY
>>>
>>> From: "John Lock" <jlock at relevantarts.com> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 
>>> 2008
>>> 12:47 PM
>>>
>>>       
>>>> At 11:12 AM 11/13/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Thanks for the suggestion and it seems like a good idea, but I can't 
>>>>> seem
>>>>> to
>>>>> make it work.   The main problem is that on my machine list-serve 
>>>>> emails
>>>>> are
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> >from "rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org", not from Herb Parsons.  Can you 
>>>>         
>>>>> suggest
>>>>>           
>>>>> a
>>>>> solution that will work with Outlook's rules manager?
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> OK, a few things to cover here -
>>>>
>>>> 1) A careful review of the e-mail headers from the list will reveal
>>>> that the "From:" header is always the sender's address (not the list
>>>> address).  However, it gets more complicated under the hood.  There
>>>> is a second "from" header called the SMTP envelope sender (sometimes
>>>> shown as the "return-path" or "from" header) and that will be the
>>>> list address.  Think about it like a postal letter with one return
>>>> address on the envelope, but a different one on the letter inside.
>>>>
>>>> My test with an old version of Outlook Express filtered list mail
>>>> based on the "From:" address, not the list address.  However, it may
>>>> be that newer versions (or full Outlook) actually use the SMTP
>>>> envelope address as "from" in the filter rules, which is not helpful
>>>> for this purpose.  Not sure how you filter in that case.  The problem
>>>> for email software developers is that mail headers are easily forged,
>>>> so it's difficult to decide which to filter and which to present to a
>>>> user without confusion.
>>>>
>>>> 2) If you are reading the digest version of the list, sorry, there's
>>>> not much you can do.  The digested compilations are addressed from
>>>> the list server and not an individual.   You'll just have to mentally
>>>> skip the parts that you don't want to read.  Alternatively, turn
>>>> Digest mode off and then you can filter more precisely (unless you're
>>>> hobbled by Outlook).
>>>>
>>>> 3) I fired up my old, unused copy of Outlook Express and tried a
>>>> quick test.  It seems to filter list mail as expected by "From:"
>>>> address.   I opened an e-mail from the list, pulled down the
>>>> "Message" menu and clicked "Block Sender".   Seemed to do the right
>>>> thing.  You might need to adjust your procedure based on the version
>>>> of Outlook you have.
>>>>
>>>> I don't use Outlook, so this is speculation based on a quick review
>>>> of my dormant copy.  Maybe folks who are proficient in Outlook can
>>>> fill in the details.
>>>>
>>>> Also, other mail software (or add-on spam filters) will give you more
>>>> precise filtering options.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> John Lock
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
>>>> Lake Sinclair, GA
>>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>
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