[Rhodes22-list] Political....this is interesting.

pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net pdgrand at nospam.wmis.net
Thu Nov 20 15:57:16 EST 2008


Ben,

I understand where you're going with that, but the underlying question is
why has it even gotten to this point?  Everyone seems to agree that
proving your citizenship is a very simple and easy thing to do if you are
indeed a citizen.  So, why hasn't he done it?  Why let something like this
spin to this level?  It just doesn't make any sense.

Paul

>
> Bill;
>
> I suppose it's possible that a space ship landed in the American southwest
> in "Area 51" in the 1950's but it's so unlikely that nobody cares, except
> a
> few UFO enthusiasts who entertain themselves and their friends with wild
> and
> silly conspiracy theories;
>
> I suppose it's possible that Elvis Presley is alive and working as a gas
> station attendant having escaped his pressure cooker life as a celebrity
> but
> it's so unlikely that nobody cares, except a few Presley enthusiasts who
> entertain themselves and their friends with wild and silly conspiracy
> theories;
>
> I suppose it's possible that Barack Obama is covering up the fact that he
> is
> not a natural born American citizen but it's so unlikely that nobody
> cares,
> except.....(well, you get the idea).
>
> I'm "Jones'n" for a good Sarah Palin joke. Are they all gone?
>
> Best,
>
> Ben C.
>
> Bill Effros wrote:
>>
>> Herb,
>>
>> If Obama were born in Hawaii it would appear he had 3 citizenships, US
>> by virtue of his place of birth; English because his father had
>> commonwealth status; and Indonesian by virtue of his attendance at
>> Indonesian schools at which his citizenship was stated as Indonesian.
>>
>> Indonesia required citizens of other countries to give up all other
>> citizenships before they could enjoy the benefits of Indonesian
>> citizenship -- like passports and schooling.
>>
>> Obama could have reclaimed his American Citizenship, as many on this
>> list have reported they have done, but it does not appear he has done
>> so.  This step, and officially changing his name back to "Barack Hussein
>> Obama" would seem to be the minimum requirements for running and serving
>> as "President Barack Hussein Obama".
>>
>> There would remain the question of "natural born citizen", but
>> reclaiming name and citizenship would seem to be necessary first.  There
>> is no indication he has done either.
>>
>> When Republicans indicated an interest in running citizen Arnold
>> Schwarznegger for President Democrats let them know in no uncertain
>> terms that only "natural born citizens" need apply for the job of
>> President.
>>
>> The current situation is commonly referred to as "repayment in kind."
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>
>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>> Believe it or not, I have a problem with Dr. Keye's lawsuit in
>>> particular, and the whole "not a citizen" issue in general.
>>>
>>> First of all, IF Barak was not a citizen when he was born, that puts
>>> everything in a different light (and I think that's a possibility, I'm
>>> not convinced one way or another at this point).
>>>
>>> However, if he was born a US citizen, I think the notion that his
>>> parents may have taken that away by their later actions is wrong. If
>>> it's technically correct, I still think it's wrong. No one should be
>>> able to take away a US citizen's birthright, unless THAT citizen has
>>> done something to lose it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rummy,
>>>>
>>>> Don't forget the Alan Keyes lawsuit filed November 12 in California
>>>> where Dr. Keyes was on the ballot.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.soundinvestments.us/files/final_writ_keyes_v_bowen.pdf
>>>>
>>>> What's interesting about the Keyes lawsuit is the question it raises
>>>> about the trip to Pakistan (illegal for US citizens at the time).  Did
>>>> O just break the law or was he traveling on a foreign passport?
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:09 AM,  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
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