[Rhodes22-list] Problem Child Tug

Brad Haslett flybrad at gmail.com
Fri Nov 28 08:38:26 EST 2008


Er, make that "price that pump".

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:35 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
> Rummy,
>
> This thing started out life as a Kubota 1560 lawnmower and has run
> perfectly for 15 years, and still starts instantly.  It's not getting
> fuel through the filter and it is not gravity fed so its the pump or
> the vacuum source for the pump.  My brother says the valve clearance
> tolerances are very, very close on these critters and he thinks it may
> be an intake valve out of adjustment.  See what your friend says.  My
> hangarmate has his John Deere on hand till I get this one running
> again but he only has a hitch on the back and it's tough backing in
> versus pushing in (I've got a front mounted shock-absorbing hitch on
> the front of the Kubota). Price that filter while you've got your
> friend on the phone - it is a Makuni (Japanese for "we're going to
> charge you out the wahooni").
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 6:56 AM,  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>> Brad,
>> Sounds similar to the fuel pumps used on 2 stroke outboards. If it is
>> similar and the diaphragm looks fine (I'd replace it anyway) then you are  correct
>> to follow the vacuum to it's source. I have basically the same engine on  my
>> John Deere tractor. I also have a friend in Wisconsijn that is a   Kawalski
>> dealer. I'll give the half wit chrome dome a call and see what he can  come up
>> with. He's due for a harassing phone call anyway.
>>
>> Rummy
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 11/27/2008 9:19:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>> flybrad at yahoo.com writes:
>>
>> Rummy,
>>
>> While you're solving engine problems, have you ever dealt  with a pulse fuel
>> pump before?  My airplane tug (Kubota lawnmower with a  Kawasaki 14 hp motor)
>> quit running.  I replaced the fuel filter and  discovered it isn't gravity
>> feed and it doesn't have an electric fuel  pump.  A little research on the net
>> revealed a new critter I'd never  heard of before - a pulse fuel pump.  It
>> basically works like a heart,  pressure on one side with a diaphragm that increases
>> pressure on the other  side.  I took it apart and the diaphragm looks fine.
>> It could be a  lack of vacuum on the low pressure side due to intake valve
>> clearances (their  pretty close and this thing hasn't been touched in 15 years).
>> Anyway,  never heard of this animal before today.  Have you got any
>> experience  with them?
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>> --- On Thu, 11/27/08, R22RumRunner at aol.com  <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> From: R22RumRunner at aol.com  <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Dead Battery  (Again)
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Date: Thursday,  November 27, 2008, 7:37 PM
>>> Forget the generator, just pull start the  motor or use a
>>> battery pack to
>>> jump start it.  Generators weigh to much to lug around.
>>>
>>>  Rummy
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/27/2008  12:25:24 P.M. Eastern
>>> Standard Time,
>>>  tjhogarty at gmail.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> So  generator  hooked to battery, battery to motor to avoid
>>> diode fry.    Will
>>> motor start when battery sufficiently charged or can it
>>>  start right  away?  I
>>> can jump start my car with another  battery hooked to it,
>>> without waiting for
>>> the battery to  charge.  Do the small generators  have the
>>> starting power of  a
>>> fresh 12 volt  battery?
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> R22RumRunner wrote:
>>> >
>>> >  Tom,
>>>  > Motors with electric start also have charging diodes
>>> which  must  be hooked
>>> > up
>>> > to a battery. If no  battery is connected, you  will
>>> fry the diodes in the
>>> > charging loop.
>>> >
>>> >  Rummy
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > In a message  dated  11/27/2008 11:53:19 A.M. Eastern
>>> Standard Time,
>>> >  tjhogarty at gmail.com writes:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Can  you start the  motor with a small generator  as
>>> the electric source?
>>> > Directly,  without  just using it to charge the
>>> battery?
>>> > Tom
>>>  >
>>> >
>>> > Leland wrote:
>>> >>
>>>  >> I seem to ask  the  same question around this time
>>>  every year and I hate
>>> >>  to
>>> >> beat a  dead  horse, but I am about ready to start
>>> beating  my  dead
>>> >> battery.
>>> >>
>>> >>  I have  two  batteries and two solar panels.
>>> >>
>>>  >> The  cabin  battery is for everything but the
>>> motor  and has both  solar
>>> >> panels  attached to it.   For three years it has
>>> been fully charged,
>>> >>   although it is rare that it operates  much aside
>>> from my  depth/fish
>>> >> finder.
>>> >>
>>> >>   The motor battery is only for the motor and is
>>> hard-wired to   the
>>> >> motor--it
>>> >> gets charged by the  motor.  All  three  years it
>>> has lost its  charge
>>> >> during
>>> >> the  winter.  It is  also  connected to the cabin
>>> battery.  Last year   there
>>> >> was a charge  coming from the cabin battery to  the
>>>  motor battery, but I
>>> >> suspect that  it  is too low to keep the  motor
>>> battery charged.
>>> >>
>>> >> I haven't  checked the  batteries' charges
>>>  yet nor have I cleaned/checked
>>> >> the   connections,  but I certainly will.
>>> >>
>>> >> I own a trickle   charger  that connects to a 110
>>> outlet and I own an AC/DC
>>>  >>  convertor.
>>> >>
>>> >> I think my  new marina only has 220  electrical and
>>> I haven't yet
>>>  >> purchased
>>> >> an expensive  220 cord nor have I had  a need to do
>>>  so.
>>> >>
>>> >>   1.  Should I re-run the solar panels so that one
>>> charges  the  motor
>>> >> battery
>>> >> and one charges the  cabin battery?   I  assume
>>> there is no danger with  the
>>> >> motor battery being  hard-wired to  the  motor.  I
>>> don't want to do this if
>>> >>  one  solar panel won't be  strong enough to
>>> keep the motor  battery  charged
>>> >> or if I will risk not  being able  to keep the
>>> cabin  battery charged with
>>> >> only one  solar panel  connected to it  instead of
>>> two.
>>>  >>
>>> >> 2.  Should I break down   and buy a  220 cord and
>>> use my AC/DC converter
>>> >> and
>>>  >>  trickle charger to  charge the motor battery?
>>> Any  dangers to the  trickle
>>> >> charger,  converter, or  battery?
>>> >>
>>> >> 3.  Should I buy one of  those  rechargeable
>>> jumping  battery panels to
>>>  >> start
>>> >> the motor when the   battery is  dead?  I was
>>> thinking about getting one
>>> >>   for
>>> >> my  motorcycle anyway.  I hate it when I want  to
>>> go  for a ride or a  sail
>>> >> and have to  wait for the trickle  charger to do
>>> its thing.
>>>  >>
>>> >> 4.  Any other   recommendations?
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for your   advice.   Just want to make sure
>>> the electrical juice  is
>>> >> worth the   economic squeeze.
>>> >>
>>> >> Lee
>>> >> 1986 Rhodes22   At   Ease
>>> >> Kent Island, MD
>>> >>
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