[Rhodes22-list] A Case for Obama; Calm Yourself Tootle (politics)

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Sun Sep 7 02:04:03 EDT 2008


Sorry Slim, I disagree. It was hyperbole. Phrases with no substance.

Steven Alm wrote:
> "it's
> just more political hyperbole."
>
> No it's not, Herb, it's ideology.
>
> "Remember, when you do those things, they say a lot about who you are."
>
> Damn right!
>
> Slim
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> And Ben, you, by the same token, can throw terms like "really dangerous
>> bad guys", "waste our resources", "cowboyd diplomacy", "abuses of our
>> ... constitution", "reproductive choices" (you folks just HATE calling
>> it "killing embryos, don't you?), etc etc. around. When you do so, it's
>> just more political hyperbole.
>>
>> it's
>> just more political hyperbole.
>>
>> And, no recommendations on beverages, just a suggestion for a little
>> self-reflection and a dropping of stones.
>>
>> Ben Cittadino wrote:
>>     
>>>  Tootle & Other Colleagues;
>>>
>>> I suggest there are explanations for those of us who intend (if the Good
>>>       
>> Lord is willing and the creek don't rise) to vote for Senator Obama other
>> than those put forward in your latest screed. I prefer to focus on policy
>> issues as they relate to both candidates, rather than the hysterical
>> rantings of fearful conspiracy theorists.  People who support Obama tend to
>> want us out of Iraq sooner rather than later, want us to focus on the really
>> dangerous bad guys in Afghanistan rather than waste our resources chasing
>> folks who don't matter in the wrong place.  We tend to be the people who
>> believe collaborative efforts overseas are more likely to be in our long
>> term best interests more than cowboy diplomacy.  We tend to think Sen Obama
>> may be more likely to be accepted as an honest broker between the Israeli
>> Government and the Palestinians to bring about the two-state solution all
>> reasonable people want in that theater.  We believe Obama is more likely to
>> appoint Federal Judges w!
>>  ho!
>>     
>>>   understand that they are the last best defense between the potential
>>>       
>> abuses of our wonderful Constitutional Rights by an out-of-control Executive
>> branch, and who will guard "The Great Writ"(habeas corpus), the single most
>> powerful human rights tool since the creation of the planet, against the
>> Dick Cheney wannabes.  We believe Obama is more likely to support federal
>> policies encouraging embryonic stem cell research, climate change research,
>> alternative fuels, support of the public schools, teaching of Darwinian
>> natural selection (evolution) as opposed to Biblical Creation Science (?).
>>  We don't view gays who want to make the same commitments to each other as
>> heterosexuals as a threat, and we're happy to have them serve their country
>> in the military, and we think Obama is more likely to adopt policies toward
>> those ends. We think the reproductive choices made by women are none of our
>> or the government's business and we have good reason to believe Obama is
>> more likely to fe!
>>  el!
>>     
>>>   the same way and act accordingly.
>>> Tootle, you can throw words like marxism and sheep around all you want.
>>>       
>>  Just remember if you do it it says alot more about you than it does about
>> us.
>>     
>>> One friendly suggestion.  Maybe you should switch to decaf .
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ben C., s/v Susan Kay, Hughlands, NJ
>>>
>>> "Steer toward the iceberg, and speed up!"- George W. Bush
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