[Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the Republicans are going to save us from the Republicans

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Mon Sep 8 07:18:22 EDT 2008


Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for religious beliefs. 
She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of separating her 
personal beliefs from her duties. She vetoed a bill that would have 
denied benefits to gay couples.

But, you extremists keep it up, I'm sure you'll find (or make up) 
SOMETHING on her.

Steven Alm wrote:
> She's a creationist.  Her Assembly of God stuff is a deal breaker for me.
> Religious extremism cannot be tolerated.
>
> The most important legacy the president leaves is the appointment of the
> supreme court.
> The next pres might appoint as many as three.  If Sarabaracuda has her way,
> say goodbye to Roe V. Wade and hello to back-ally coat hanger  abortions.
>
> Slim
>
> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> I think it's funny that the candidate that was considered as a running
>> mate for the Democratic choice a few years back, is now being touted as
>> "more of the same". Keep trying though, you guys may find something that
>> works.
>>
>> What exactly makes Palin a "religious kook", that fact that's she
>> religious? I think your colors are beginning to show.
>>
>> petelargo wrote:
>>     
>>> Ben, thanks for your post. As you may have noticed, there is no dialogue
>>>       
>> with
>>     
>>> the right-wing extremists. You are wrong, end of discussion and your an
>>> idiot to boot.
>>>
>>> When John McCain won the nomination, Bush disappears overseas. At the
>>>       
>> RNC,
>>     
>>> no Bush, no Cheney (and no mention of them). They know it's a failed
>>> administration. Where were the solutions. Once again, they are trying to
>>> frame the campaign as an ideology argument rather than an issues
>>>       
>> discussion.
>>     
>>> Today on Face the Nation, "Sis Cum Ba and WHA-LAA", McCain is now the
>>>       
>> change
>>     
>>> candidate and stated that he will end the incredible corruption in
>>> Washington and the failed policies. John McCain has re-defined a whole
>>>       
>> new
>>     
>>> level of flip-flopping on over two dozen key issues within the last eight
>>> years including his own authored bill that he was for and now against.
>>>
>>> I couldn't give a poop about the experience argument of Palin vs Obama.
>>>       
>> It's
>>     
>>> a waste of time.  The entire Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice-Rove, etc
>>> administration could be argued to be the most experienced administration
>>>       
>> in
>>     
>>> the history of the White House. A huge amount of prior "executive
>>> experience".  For the first time in recent politics the Republicans had
>>>       
>> the
>>     
>>> power in the white house, judicial, house and senate. How was it for you?
>>> It's one thing to drive a tractor trailer up our butts, but when they
>>>       
>> start
>>     
>>> blowing on the horn while there're doing it, it's really gone too far.
>>>
>>> A big thank you for the memories: the debt, the dead, the twisting
>>> intelligence to "sell" us a war on a country that did not attack us, the
>>> good ol boy ineffectual cronyism, and finally the shredding of the
>>> constitution. With Palin we now we get to have another religious kook to
>>> satisfy the so-called conservative extremist religious right to 'bridge'
>>> them into this administration and get money.
>>>
>>> Spending 5-10 billion dollars a month on Iraq and kissing chinese ass
>>> (borrowing the money) of the most Marxist suppressive government on the
>>> planet at this time is a conservative value?
>>>
>>> Finally, the biggest hypocrisy of all . That these extremists actually
>>>       
>> think
>>     
>>> that they and the republicans are the vanguards of conservatism?  The two
>>> top key pillars of conservatism are less government and government
>>>       
>> intrusion
>>     
>>> and fiscal responsibility.  The only administration that walked that talk
>>>       
>> in
>>     
>>> 50 years was a Democrat that left Bush a 500 billion dollar surplus. He
>>>       
>> blew
>>     
>>> threw that in one year and it was prior to 9-11.  And there is no greater
>>> government intrusion that being told what you can or cannot do with or
>>>       
>> put
>>     
>>> into your body. Palin wants privacy for her family decisions, but she
>>>       
>> wants
>>     
>>> to legislate publicly what you should do with yours. No thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben Cittadino-2 wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> My Dear Culture Warriors;
>>>>
>>>> So....are we having fun yet?
>>>>
>>>> First, I'd like to thank Richard and Slim for stepping up to join the
>>>> "Assault on the Citadel".
>>>> The bullets don't sting as much when the adversary's fire is spread out
>>>> among more than one target.
>>>> In the words first uttered by Gen. "Vinegar Joe" Stillwell, "illegitimi
>>>> non carborundum".
>>>>
>>>> As for Tootle, Brad, and Herb, you guys crack me up.  I posted about
>>>>         
>> Obama
>>     
>>>> only because I saw Tootle's post that
>>>> suggested anybody supporting Obama was either a marxist, or a farm
>>>>         
>> animal.
>>     
>>>> What did he expect when he said that?
>>>> Herb, where was your outrage that Tootle would refer to some of his
>>>>         
>> fellow
>>     
>>>> "Rhodies" in such derogatry terms? Supporting Obama or McCain
>>>> may turn out to be right or wrong, but if we debate policy and don't
>>>> engage in mere name-calling this "sailor's bar"  could be an interesting
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> Richard's "geezer" remarks are defensible on several grounds. First, he
>>>> was provoked. Second, he was defending ME.
>>>> Third, it was funny. Calling someone a "marxist" as Tootle did is
>>>>         
>> several
>>     
>>>> magnitudes worse than gentle kidding of the
>>>> "old fart" kind. Surely you see the difference.
>>>>
>>>> The positions I tried to lay out as reasons some people support Obama
>>>>         
>> were
>>     
>>>> intended as an outline of ideology (as Slim noted),
>>>> not an argument supporting any position.  For example, Herb, you are
>>>> pro-life and will probably vote for McCain/Palin in part for that
>>>>         
>> reason.
>>     
>>>> I am pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research and so I will support
>>>> Obama/Biden in part for that reason.  It is not hyperbole to  point out
>>>> the policy differences that explain my choice.  What I know for sure is
>>>> that marxism and "sheepiness" have nothing to do with it. I have thought
>>>> about all of my positions on the issues I mentioned and am completely
>>>> prepared to explain and justify them.  In Brad's oft' repeated mantra I
>>>> know I have "done my homework".
>>>>
>>>> Enough for today. The games will be on soon.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> Ben C. , s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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