[Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the Republicans are going to save us from the Republicans

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Mon Sep 8 15:08:46 EDT 2008


No, it would not. Education should be left the local government. I don't 
want ANYONE in Washington DC dictating what my local schools teach, 
using my local tax dollars.

Steven Alm wrote:
> "She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of separating her
> personal beliefs from her duties."
>
> Wouldn't it be better if she didn't have to?
>
> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for religious beliefs.
>> She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of separating her
>> personal beliefs from her duties. She vetoed a bill that would have
>> denied benefits to gay couples.
>>
>> But, you extremists keep it up, I'm sure you'll find (or make up)
>> SOMETHING on her.
>>
>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>     
>>> She's a creationist.  Her Assembly of God stuff is a deal breaker for me.
>>> Religious extremism cannot be tolerated.
>>>
>>> The most important legacy the president leaves is the appointment of the
>>> supreme court.
>>> The next pres might appoint as many as three.  If Sarabaracuda has her
>>>       
>> way,
>>     
>>> say goodbye to Roe V. Wade and hello to back-ally coat hanger  abortions.
>>>
>>> Slim
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>>>       
>> wrote:
>>     
>>>       
>>>> I think it's funny that the candidate that was considered as a running
>>>> mate for the Democratic choice a few years back, is now being touted as
>>>> "more of the same". Keep trying though, you guys may find something that
>>>> works.
>>>>
>>>> What exactly makes Palin a "religious kook", that fact that's she
>>>> religious? I think your colors are beginning to show.
>>>>
>>>> petelargo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Ben, thanks for your post. As you may have noticed, there is no
>>>>>           
>> dialogue
>>     
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> the right-wing extremists. You are wrong, end of discussion and your an
>>>>> idiot to boot.
>>>>>
>>>>> When John McCain won the nomination, Bush disappears overseas. At the
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> RNC,
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> no Bush, no Cheney (and no mention of them). They know it's a failed
>>>>> administration. Where were the solutions. Once again, they are trying
>>>>>           
>> to
>>     
>>>>> frame the campaign as an ideology argument rather than an issues
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> discussion.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Today on Face the Nation, "Sis Cum Ba and WHA-LAA", McCain is now the
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> change
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> candidate and stated that he will end the incredible corruption in
>>>>> Washington and the failed policies. John McCain has re-defined a whole
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> new
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> level of flip-flopping on over two dozen key issues within the last
>>>>>           
>> eight
>>     
>>>>> years including his own authored bill that he was for and now against.
>>>>>
>>>>> I couldn't give a poop about the experience argument of Palin vs Obama.
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> It's
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> a waste of time.  The entire Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice-Rove, etc
>>>>> administration could be argued to be the most experienced
>>>>>           
>> administration
>>     
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> the history of the White House. A huge amount of prior "executive
>>>>> experience".  For the first time in recent politics the Republicans had
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> power in the white house, judicial, house and senate. How was it for
>>>>>           
>> you?
>>     
>>>>> It's one thing to drive a tractor trailer up our butts, but when they
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> start
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> blowing on the horn while there're doing it, it's really gone too far.
>>>>>
>>>>> A big thank you for the memories: the debt, the dead, the twisting
>>>>> intelligence to "sell" us a war on a country that did not attack us,
>>>>>           
>> the
>>     
>>>>> good ol boy ineffectual cronyism, and finally the shredding of the
>>>>> constitution. With Palin we now we get to have another religious kook
>>>>>           
>> to
>>     
>>>>> satisfy the so-called conservative extremist religious right to
>>>>>           
>> 'bridge'
>>     
>>>>> them into this administration and get money.
>>>>>
>>>>> Spending 5-10 billion dollars a month on Iraq and kissing chinese ass
>>>>> (borrowing the money) of the most Marxist suppressive government on the
>>>>> planet at this time is a conservative value?
>>>>>
>>>>> Finally, the biggest hypocrisy of all . That these extremists actually
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> think
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> that they and the republicans are the vanguards of conservatism?  The
>>>>>           
>> two
>>     
>>>>> top key pillars of conservatism are less government and government
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> intrusion
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> and fiscal responsibility.  The only administration that walked that
>>>>>           
>> talk
>>     
>>>> in
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> 50 years was a Democrat that left Bush a 500 billion dollar surplus. He
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> blew
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> threw that in one year and it was prior to 9-11.  And there is no
>>>>>           
>> greater
>>     
>>>>> government intrusion that being told what you can or cannot do with or
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> put
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> into your body. Palin wants privacy for her family decisions, but she
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> wants
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> to legislate publicly what you should do with yours. No thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben Cittadino-2 wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> My Dear Culture Warriors;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So....are we having fun yet?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First, I'd like to thank Richard and Slim for stepping up to join the
>>>>>> "Assault on the Citadel".
>>>>>> The bullets don't sting as much when the adversary's fire is spread
>>>>>>             
>> out
>>     
>>>>>> among more than one target.
>>>>>> In the words first uttered by Gen. "Vinegar Joe" Stillwell,
>>>>>>             
>> "illegitimi
>>     
>>>>>> non carborundum".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for Tootle, Brad, and Herb, you guys crack me up.  I posted about
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>> Obama
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> only because I saw Tootle's post that
>>>>>> suggested anybody supporting Obama was either a marxist, or a farm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>> animal.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> What did he expect when he said that?
>>>>>> Herb, where was your outrage that Tootle would refer to some of his
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>> fellow
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> "Rhodies" in such derogatry terms? Supporting Obama or McCain
>>>>>> may turn out to be right or wrong, but if we debate policy and don't
>>>>>> engage in mere name-calling this "sailor's bar"  could be an
>>>>>>             
>> interesting
>>     
>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard's "geezer" remarks are defensible on several grounds. First,
>>>>>>             
>> he
>>     
>>>>>> was provoked. Second, he was defending ME.
>>>>>> Third, it was funny. Calling someone a "marxist" as Tootle did is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>> several
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> magnitudes worse than gentle kidding of the
>>>>>> "old fart" kind. Surely you see the difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The positions I tried to lay out as reasons some people support Obama
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>> were
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> intended as an outline of ideology (as Slim noted),
>>>>>> not an argument supporting any position.  For example, Herb, you are
>>>>>> pro-life and will probably vote for McCain/Palin in part for that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>> reason.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>> I am pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research and so I will
>>>>>>             
>> support
>>     
>>>>>> Obama/Biden in part for that reason.  It is not hyperbole to  point
>>>>>>             
>> out
>>     
>>>>>> the policy differences that explain my choice.  What I know for sure
>>>>>>             
>> is
>>     
>>>>>> that marxism and "sheepiness" have nothing to do with it. I have
>>>>>>             
>> thought
>>     
>>>>>> about all of my positions on the issues I mentioned and am completely
>>>>>> prepared to explain and justify them.  In Brad's oft' repeated mantra
>>>>>>             
>> I
>>     
>>>>>> know I have "done my homework".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Enough for today. The games will be on soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben C. , s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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