[Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are going to save us from the Republicans

Herb Parsons hparsons at parsonsys.com
Tue Sep 9 16:53:12 EDT 2008


Sure they can. We do it constantly.

We don't allow murder, a moral belief. The "law of nature" is that the 
fittest survive. If I'm more powerful than you, and I can take what I 
want. If you don't like it, I can simply kill you and then that ends the 
argument. We, as a society, impose a different MORAL standard.


Lowe, Rob wrote:
> Exactly!  It's about moral beliefs.  And one can't impose their moral
> beliefs on another.  And one cannot legislate their moral beliefs on
> another.  And agreed, morality and religion are not the same thing.  But
> it sure seems to me those that those who are religious sure make a claim
> of being more moral than those that are not. 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 4:29 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are going
> to save us from the Republicans
>
> Oh, and spare me the "it's religion" nonsense. I know athiests that 
> agree with my view on abortion, and folks in my church that disagree 
> with it. It IS about moral beliefs, but morality and religion are not 
> the same thing.
>
>
> Lowe, Rob wrote:
>   
>> Herb,
>> OK, human as opposed to something else, I guess I can buy that.
>>
>> As you suggest, is this "life" is not so easy.  It's is certainly
>> living, but not viable.  For a person in a coma, I totally disagree
>>     
> that
>   
>> society must make that decision.  I believe it's the family's
>>     
> decision.
>   
>> Society (aka Government) has no business in it.  And in keeping with
>> that belief, I believe it's the mother's decision in the case of a
>> pregnancy.  It's about personal rights.  If one believes abortion is
>> wrong, that's great, don't have one.  But leave me and those that
>> believe differently to our own personal beliefs.   
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 3:12 PM
>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are
>>     
> going
>   
>> to save us from the Republicans
>>
>> So, if it's not human, exactly what is it?
>>
>> Now, as to whether or not it's life, I can accept that the can be room
>>     
>
>   
>> for argument there; however, there science and religion tend to blur.
>>     
> We
>   
>> have lots of things we call life, which may or may not be so - is a 
>> person in a coma with no ability to respond and no hope for recover 
>> "living"? In cases like that, society must make a decision. And, no 
>> matter how you want to frame it, it's really not a religious decision.
>>     
> A
>   
>> person's view may be influenced by religion, but that doesn't make it
>>     
> a 
>   
>> religious view.
>>
>> A good example is that I don't believe it's right for me to take what
>>     
> is
>   
>> yours. That belief is heavily influenced by my religion, but that 
>> doesn't make it a religious belief.
>>
>> Lowe, Rob wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Ah, but that's where the disagreement lies.  You say it's a human at
>>> that point, I say it is not.  So you say it's killing.  I say it's
>>>     
>>>       
>> not.
>>   
>>     
>>> And whether it's a human or not is a matter of belief, which leads us
>>> back to religion.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Herb Parsons
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:42 PM
>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are
>>>     
>>>       
>> going
>>   
>>     
>>> to save us from the Republicans
>>>
>>> Pete, sorry buddy, but as long as someone is killing another human,
>>>     
>>>       
>> it's
>>   
>>     
>>> EVERYONE's business.
>>>
>>>
>>> petelargo wrote:
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> It sure sounds like a 'I want the government out of our lives except
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> for my
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> religious beliefs' conservative. 
>>>> If it's your belief that a woman is killing another human being,
>>>>         
> then
>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> in the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> privacy of your family exercise your belief and don't do it, and
>>>>       
>>>>         
>> leave
>>   
>>     
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> government and the rest of us out of it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hparsons wrote:
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> I would agree, except in this case, the individual's religious
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>> belifs
>>   
>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> involve yet another individual. You are advocating that a woman be 
>>>>> allowed to kill another living human based on HER religious
>>>>>           
> beliefs,
>   
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>> not 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>> those of that living human.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rik Sandberg wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> Herb,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, here you go my friend. War is a terrible analogy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> IF we are going to have freedom OF religion, which would also
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> include 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> freedom FROM religion and the abortion issue is mostly decided on
>>>>>>             
> a
>   
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>   
>>     
>>>>>> religious (or non-religious, choice again) basis, it is not our
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> place to 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> expect anyone else to assume our religious beliefs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which leads us right back to; the gov't should have no voice in
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>> this
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>> at
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rik
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ayn Rand was a prophet - - it isn't my fault
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>>>   
>>>>>>       
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> I like your honest assessment on Palin, but I disagree about your
>>>>>>>               
>
>   
>>>>>>> labeling of the position.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If I say I'm not going to fight in a war, but it's OK if my
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> government 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> attacks another, am I anti-war, or pro-war?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously, you'll not have an abortion, that would mean a male
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> could be 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> neither pro or anti; however, anyone that believes the issue does
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>> not 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>> affect me is wearing blinders.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rik Sandberg wrote:
>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>> Herb,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Agreed. Palin claims no more religiousity (is that a word,
>>>>>>>>                 
> sounds
>   
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> good) 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>> than either of the other three candidates involved. She has also
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> shown 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>> that she can govern without forcing forcing those beliefs on her
>>>>>>>>                 
>
>   
>>>>>>>> constituents.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the abortion issue: Yep, she's against them, for her. So am
>>>>>>>>                 
> I,
>   
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> for 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>> me. I am pro-choice. People just can't seem to get a handle on
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>> the
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> idea 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>> that pro-choice doesn't mean anti or pro abortion. It means you
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> should 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>> be able to make your own choice and let others make theirs, ie,
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> mind 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>> your own business.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  From what I've seen Palin, as governor of Alaska has been doing
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> this
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If I had my way, the federal gov't wouldn't be involved in
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>> abortion at
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ayn Rand was a prophet - - it isn't my fault
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>> Stan,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What evidence do you have that would lead you to believe that
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> Palin 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> would force her religious belief on anyone? My understanding is
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> that 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> she's all for allowing the individual states to set the
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>> standard.
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> However, that's really beside the point. As you said, anyone's
>>>>>>>>> pinpoint 
>>>>>>>>> of the exact time is a "religious" matter, or a matter of fath,
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> thus 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> ANYONE setting pinpointed time would be them foisting their
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> beliefs on 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Surely you're not advocating allowing the parents to decide at
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>> any
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>> time 
>>>>>>>>> they choose, up to and including while the "fetus" is still in
>>>>>>>>> college?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> stan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>> Slim,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As a member of your religious faith, and an ardent fan, if you
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> really
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> plan 
>>>>>>>>>> to skip voting (in effect voting for those whose direct
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> religious 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> instructions got us into such a waste of our wealth and blood)
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> I
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> would be 
>>>>>>>>>> truly saddened.   I don't think poorly of John's and Palin's
>>>>>>>>>> inability to 
>>>>>>>>>> live up to their own family values, relying on their gods to
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> forgive
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> them - 
>>>>>>>>>> I worry about their health; a topic that seems to be forbidden
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> to
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> address. 
>>>>>>>>>> John's cheek is not like that from his prisoner days and his
>>>>>>>>>>                     
> vp
>   
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> could
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> be our 
>>>>>>>>>> leader without notice.  Then where would this country's
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> founding
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>> desire for 
>>>>>>>>>> religious freedom end up?  The first example is already on the
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> table
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>> Catholic Joe has it right:  When life starts is a religious
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> opinion
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>> should not be one decided by government.   You may feel life
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> does not
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> start 
>>>>>>>>>> until a breath is taken, the Jews count a number of months
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> before the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> start, 
>>>>>>>>>> the Christens count from the moment the cells begin dividing. 
>>>>>>>>>> Personally I 
>>>>>>>>>> don't think it starts until after college.  If we allow a
>>>>>>>>>>                     
> Palin
>   
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> to
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> call such 
>>>>>>>>>> shots we are on a path Jefferson and all those other smart
>>>>>>>>>>                     
> guys
>   
>>>>>>>>>> insisted on 
>>>>>>>>>> avoiding.   McCain told the TV interviewer that if he had his
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> way the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> first 
>>>>>>>>>> judge he would get rid of is Ginsberg and than went down the
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> list of
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> her 
>>>>>>>>>> kind.   Once this is allowed to start (we already have allowed
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> god
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> onto our 
>>>>>>>>>> coins), god (hypocritically speaking) help us - or we will
>>>>>>>>>>                     
> all,
>   
>>>>>>>>>> eventually, 
>>>>>>>>>> become strong advocates of the second amendment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> John, at least is a flip flopper so, if elected, would
>>>>>>>>>>                     
> probably
>   
>>>>>>>>>> revert to 
>>>>>>>>>> many of his reasonable positions.  It is Palin I am fearful
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>> will
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> give
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> us 
>>>>>>>>>> even worse than another 8 years.  (And this from a confessed
>>>>>>>>>> womanizer.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stan/ec
>>>>>>>>>>  .
>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>>>>> From: "Steven Alm" <stevenalm at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:02 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus,the "evolutionists"
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>> are
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>> going to 
>>>>>>>>>> save us from the Republicans
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   
>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>> Todd,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm an atheist and I think Palin's a religious kook.  And
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> you're
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> right, I
>>>>>>>>>>> won't vote for a religious kook.  I haven't studied Darwin
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> very
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> much
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> (and 
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> applaud your research and quotes) but I don't think that's
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> the
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> only
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> rebuke
>>>>>>>>>>> to creationism.  Since most of the species of plant and
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> animal
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> life
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> on 
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> earth are in fact extinct, I'd call that "unintelligent
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> design."
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> You said there are only two possibilities as to how life
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> started. 
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> Are you
>>>>>>>>>>> sure?  How do you know this?  What I know is that all
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>> religions
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>> serve in
>>>>>>>>>>> answering three questions:  Where did we come from, how do we
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> live
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>> happens when we die?  Myself, I've answered those questions
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
> to
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> my
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>> satisfaction and I don't need the church to tell me anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Todd Tavares
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>> <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Slim, Wow!  are you are going to vote for Obama because he
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> is
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> a
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Marxist
>>>>>>>>>>>> or not vote for McCain just because Palin is a religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> extremist?
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> :^D
>>>>>>>>>>>> Glad you mentioned carbon dating.  Carbon has been proven by
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> many
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> scientists to be a wholly inaccurate method of dating.  I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> far
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> being a scientist...or a religious kook thinking the earth
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> is
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> only
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> couple of thousand of years old, but there is just as much
>>>>>>>>>>>> scientific
>>>>>>>>>>>> information out there to; while not proving creation is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> truth,
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> surely
>>>>>>>>>>>> proves evolution is improbable if not impossible.  You
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> are/were an
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> educator and were taught evolution from a text book, like we
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> all
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> were.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just because you read something in a text book does not make
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> it
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.darwins-theory-of-evolution.com/ Maybe we could
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> all
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>> stomach
>>>>>>>>>>>> creationism if we called it a theory too. After all that is
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> what
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> evolution is...just an unproven theory. There are equally as
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> many
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> scientists out there who believe they have proven evolution
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> is
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>> myth. It
>>>>>>>>>>>> was not Darwin's brainstorm anyway.  He thought he could
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> further
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> explain
>>>>>>>>>>>> a centuries old belief; that life arose from non life and
>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>> sprang from a common ancestor. Modern scientists say it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> that
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>> amino acid or protein chain in the pool of "primordial
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> ooze."
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> I
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> like how
>>>>>>>>>>>> one Nobel prize winner (Biology 1967?) put it:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "There are only two possibilities as to how life arose; one
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> is
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>> spontaneous generation arising to evolution, the other is a
>>>>>>>>>>>> supernatural
>>>>>>>>>>>> creative act of God, there is no third possibility.
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> Spontaneous
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> generation that life arose from non-living matter was
>>>>>>>>>>>> scientifically
>>>>>>>>>>>> disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others. That
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> leaves us
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>> only one possible conclusion, that life arose as a creative
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> act of
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> God. I
>>>>>>>>>>>> will not accept that philosophically because I do not want
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> to
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>> believe in
>>>>>>>>>>>> God, therefore I choose to believe in that which I know is
>>>>>>>>>>>> scientifically
>>>>>>>>>>>> impossible, spontaneous generation arising to evolution."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Dr. George Wald, evolutionist, Professor Emeritus of
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> Biology
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> at
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> University at Harvard, Nobel Prize winner in Biology.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But the most interesting fact is that even Darwin himself
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> realized
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> evolution was not workable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> contrivances
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> for
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> different
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> chromatic
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> aberration, could have formed by natural selection, seems, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> freely
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> confess, absurd in the highest degree possible." (Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> Darwin,
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The
>>>>>>>>>>>> origin of species by means of natural selection")
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ existed
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> which
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>>>>>>> not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive,
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> slight
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>> modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> (Charles
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> Darwin,
>>>>>>>>>>>> "The Origin of Species")
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> myself
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> whether
>>>>>>>>>>>> I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy."  (Charles
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> Darwin,
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> Life
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Letters, 1887, Vol. 2, p. 229)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I could post a few hundred quotes from noted doctors and
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> scientists
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> try to "prove" evolution wrong or creation right. I could
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> "do
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> my
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> homework" as we say here on the list and cite actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> findings,
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> but
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> is not necessary. Because to dismiss the possibility of God
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> or
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> some
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>>>>>> Intelligent Designer makes it easier to accept our notions
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> that it
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> is ok
>>>>>>>>>>>> to be a homosexual (and not allow me a choice when the
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> schools
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>> teach this
>>>>>>>>>>>> gargage to my kids while denying the right to learn about
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> the
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>> theory of
>>>>>>>>>>>> creation along with evolution) or that it should be a crime
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> to
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> kill
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> tree, but ok to kill an unborn baby. Not to say everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> believing
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>> evolution is an athiest (or a Democrat), but you have made
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> me
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> see
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> this as
>>>>>>>>>>>> a hinge factor in how I will vote....real issues aside.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Todd T
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, it is not very PC to say we evolved (were
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> "selected")
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> from
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> apes.
>>>>>>>>>>>> We don't want any of the apes that were not selected to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> made to
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> feel
>>>>>>>>>>>> inferior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Steven Alm"
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the Republicans
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> are
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>>>>>>> save us from the Republicans
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:11:17 -0500
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> religious
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I require that the candidates be sane, critical
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> thinkers.
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>> Palin is
>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously not. I wouldn't say that if she were a Catholic or
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> a
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lutheran
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> here's a woman who wants to stare down the whole scientific
>>>>>>>>>>>> community and
>>>>>>>>>>>> deny things like carbon 14 dating and declare that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>> heavens
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> and
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> earth
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>> only a few thousand years old. You didn't just call ME an
>>>>>>>>>>>> extremist, did
>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brad, you left out the part of Kroon saying that his
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> parishioners
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>> pray for the completion of the pipeline because at the end
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
> of
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>> the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>> world,
>>>>>>>>>>>> folks will flock to Alaska as their final refuge.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't believe that was you quoting all that God stuff.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Steven Alm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> separating her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal beliefs from her duties."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't it be better if she didn't have to?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Herb Parsons wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>> religious
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She's already demonstrated that she is fully capable of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> separating her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> personal beliefs from her duties. She vetoed a bill that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>> would
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> denied benefits to gay couples.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But, you extremists keep it up, I'm sure you'll find (or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>> make up)
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SOMETHING on her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven Alm wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She's a creationist. Her Assembly of God stuff is a deal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>> breaker
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Religious extremism cannot be tolerated.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The most important legacy the president leaves is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> appointment of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> supreme court.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The next pres might appoint as many as three. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>> Sarabaracuda
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> say goodbye to Roe V. Wade and hello to back-ally coat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>> hanger
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abortions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Herb Parsons
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it's funny that the candidate that was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> considered
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>> as a
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mate for the Democratic choice a few years back, is now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>> being
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>> touted as
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "more of the same". Keep trying though, you guys may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
> find
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What exactly makes Palin a "religious kook", that fact
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>> that's
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religious? I think your colors are beginning to show.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> petelargo wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben, thanks for your post. As you may have noticed,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> there
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> is
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialogue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the right-wing extremists. You are wrong, end of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> discussion
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idiot to boot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When John McCain won the nomination, Bush disappears
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> overseas.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RNC,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no Bush, no Cheney (and no mention of them). They know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> it's a
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration. Where were the solutions. Once again,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> they are
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> frame the campaign as an ideology argument rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> an
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Today on Face the Nation, "Sis Cum Ba and WHA-LAA",
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> McCain is
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> candidate and stated that he will end the incredible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> corruption in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Washington and the failed policies. John McCain has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> re-defined
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> level of flip-flopping on over two dozen key issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> within the
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eight
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> years including his own authored bill that he was for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> and
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> now
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> against.
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't give a poop about the experience argument of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> Palin
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a waste of time. The entire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice-Rove,
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration could be argued to be the most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> experienced
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the history of the White House. A huge amount of prior
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "executive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experience". For the first time in recent politics the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Republicans
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> power in the white house, judicial, house and senate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> How
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> was
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's one thing to drive a tractor trailer up our butts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> but
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blowing on the horn while there're doing it, it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
> really
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> gone
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A big thank you for the memories: the debt, the dead,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> the
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twisting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intelligence to "sell" us a war on a country that did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> not
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> attack
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> us,
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good ol boy ineffectual cronyism, and finally the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> shredding of
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> constitution. With Palin we now we get to have another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> kook
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> satisfy the so-called conservative extremist religious
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> right
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'bridge'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them into this administration and get money.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spending 5-10 billion dollars a month on Iraq and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>> kissing
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chinese
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> ass
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (borrowing the money) of the most Marxist suppressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planet at this time is a conservative value?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Finally, the biggest hypocrisy of all . That these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> extremists
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that they and the republicans are the vanguards of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> conservatism?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> top key pillars of conservatism are less government and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intrusion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and fiscal responsibility. The only administration that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> walked
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 50 years was a Democrat that left Bush a 500 billion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> dollar
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> surplus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blew
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> threw that in one year and it was prior to 9-11. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> there is
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government intrusion that being told what you can or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> cannot do
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> with or
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into your body. Palin wants privacy for her family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>> decisions,
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to legislate publicly what you should do with yours. No
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ben Cittadino-2 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My Dear Culture Warriors;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So....are we having fun yet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, I'd like to thank Richard and Slim for stepping
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> up to
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> join
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Assault on the Citadel".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The bullets don't sting as much when the adversary's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> fire is
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> spread
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> among more than one target.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the words first uttered by Gen. "Vinegar Joe"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> Stillwell,
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "illegitimi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non carborundum".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As for Tootle, Brad, and Herb, you guys crack me up. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> posted
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only because I saw Tootle's post that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggested anybody supporting Obama was either a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>> marxist,
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> or a
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> farm
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> animal.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What did he expect when he said that?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Herb, where was your outrage that Tootle would refer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
> to
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> some
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fellow
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Rhodies" in such derogatry terms? Supporting Obama or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> McCain
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may turn out to be right or wrong, but if we debate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> policy
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> engage in mere name-calling this "sailor's bar" could
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>> be
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> an
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interesting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> place.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Richard's "geezer" remarks are defensible on several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> grounds.
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> First,
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was provoked. Second, he was defending ME.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Third, it was funny. Calling someone a "marxist" as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> Tootle
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magnitudes worse than gentle kidding of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "old fart" kind. Surely you see the difference.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The positions I tried to lay out as reasons some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
> people
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intended as an outline of ideology (as Slim noted),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not an argument supporting any position. For example,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> Herb,
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pro-life and will probably vote for McCain/Palin in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>> part
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> for
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>> so
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> I
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> support
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama/Biden in part for that reason. It is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>> hyperbole
>>   
>>     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> to
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the policy differences that explain my choice. What I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> know
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>         
>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that marxism and "sheepiness" have nothing to do with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> it. I
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                           
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                             
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about all of my positions on the issues I mentioned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
> and
>   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                   
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                                     
>>> am
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>                   
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