[Rhodes22-list] definition "religious kook" (as requested)

[Herb Parsons]

Right Pete. You're going to make outrageous claims, then tell me to 
research it. Sorry bud, I won't waste my time chasing down things I 
don't believe exits.

I don't doubt for a second that there are "many" evangelicals that 
believe that, or that even many of those you know believe that. 
Unfortunately, that's not what you said.

"the extreme evangelical stranglehold that supported and came", not 
"some of the...", not even "many of the ... that I know personally". You 
grouped 'em all together.

You might want to expand your scope of known evangelicals. Most 
evangelicals I personally know (and I'd hazard a guess that I know more 
of 'em than you do) that supported GWB would seldom, if ever, pretend to 
know the will of God. We call that Prophesy, and there's some pretty 
severe repercussions for false prophets. Most of us DO believe that God 
is in ultimate control, and His will will eventually be done though. I 
guess to some of you and yours, that would make us religious kooks.


petelargo wrote:
> of course, I am loaded with information that you won't look at. do your own
> research. you are free to believe what you want. but I know many
> evangelicals that talked about the undercurrent of this belief that ol
> george was ordained by god to "smite the infidels".  
>
> "In the unfolding of history, God calls on special persons to make history
> in His righteous name. In a worldview that rests upon providence, the attack
> on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon are interpreted by many,
> including members of the Bush administration, as signs from God that Bush is
> ordained to lead a crusade against evil. “It is a theme which is beginning
> to emerge from the Bush administration,” writes Julian Borger in The
> Guardian (1-28-03). 
>
>
>
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> hparsons wrote:
>   
>> Really Pete? You have some sort of information that backs that up? Or is 
>> this just you imposing what you want others to believe? I'm a "right 
>> wing evangelical", care to tell me what it is that I believe, or am I 
>> free to chose that for myself?
>>
>> petelargo wrote:
>>     
>>> yea really. even tho Brad makes fun of the obama-messiah, the truth is
>>> that
>>> the extreme evangelical stranglehold that supported and came in with Bush
>>> actually did believe that God ordained and sent Bush to strike down the
>>> infidels (non-believers) in Iraq.  
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Todd Tavares wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Pete, If you changed a few words, it sound would sound exactly like the
>>>> present administration's foreign policy. Todd T
>>>>
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   From: petelargo
>>>>   To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>>   Subject: [Rhodes22-list] definition "religious kook" (as requested)
>>>>   Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 05:39:38 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   an individual who is driven by their religious Belief to impose their
>>>>   Belief
>>>>   on others in order to "save you" for what they believe is your own
>>>>   good by
>>>>   using their civic power and position to support and pass laws
>>>>   requiring your
>>>>   compliance with their Beliefs, hence making societal criminals out of
>>>>   people
>>>>   should they not share these particular Beliefs. Always combined with
>>>>   an
>>>>   inherent feeling of righteous seniority and intolerance of other
>>>>   beliefs,
>>>>   based on the belief that their Belief is superior to all other
>>>>   beliefs.
>>>>
>>>>   examples: 1) supporting and imposing laws that state what you can and
>>>>   cannot do with or put in your own body as an adult based on their
>>>>   specific
>>>>   religion 2) supporting restrictions and public bans of literature,
>>>>   books,
>>>>   movies, and art that may not support their religion 3) attempts to
>>>>   create
>>>>   laws that make their religion the 'official state' religion 4)
>>>>   imposing
>>>>   their religion as the 'truth' that must be taught in public forums
>>>>   over
>>>>   empirical contrary scientific evidence 5) wanting to change the
>>>>   Constitution
>>>>   of the United States in order to better reflect their specific
>>>>   religion 6)
>>>>   supporting deconstructing boundaries between church and state in
>>>>   order to
>>>>   more effectively implement the above
>>>>
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