[Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are going to save us from the Republicans

Ben Cittadino bcittadino at dcs-law.com
Wed Sep 10 15:24:26 EDT 2008


Elle;

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Have you lost your mind?

I love it. (He said with his legs crossed).  As Oprah would say, "You go
girl!"

Ben C. s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ





Lady in Red wrote:
> 
> Forced semen storage and then mass castration could end the abortion
> debate once and for all.
> 
> elle
> 
> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
> 
> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 9/10/08, Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com> wrote:
> 
>> From: Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the "evolutionists" are going
>> to save us from the Republicans
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 12:05 PM
>> Herb,
>> 
>> You raise an interesting legal point.  Did you know that
>> the right to use
>> deadly force to defend one's property is different in
>> the different states?
>> In fact it changes in direct proportion to one's
>> movement from northeast to
>> southwest.  In most northeastern states a person has a duty
>> to retreat and
>> not use deadly force to defend one's property, but as
>> one moves southwest a
>> person has more legal right to stand their ground and even
>> use deadly force
>> to defend their property. It's actually a fascinating
>> study of the whole
>> macho "code of the west" thing. 
>> 
>> I just can't do the abortion debate. Nobody ever
>> changes anybody's mind on
>> it. I think it just comes down to a society balancing very
>> impotant
>> competing interests. So far our society has decided that a
>> woman's privacy
>> right trumps the government's interest in protecting
>> the life (or potential
>> for life) of the not yet born up to the point of about
>> 2/3rds of the way
>> through the pregnancy. It's a judgment call. It seems
>> reasonable enough to
>> me.
>> 
>> Ben, s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Psssst, Brad, don't tell anyone on here that already
>> knows differently, 
>> but in spite of my personal religious beliefs, I believe
>> that the issue 
>> should be left up to the states.
>> 
>> Further, I think that local cities should be allowed to
>> further 
>> restrict, within the confines of their state's charter
>> and constitution, 
>> the matter. I believe that to be how we should operate on a
>> lot of 
>> different issues.
>> 
>> Did you know that in some states it's illegal to own a
>> handgun, but in 
>> the GST (Great State of Texas), you not only can legally
>> own one, you 
>> can shoot, and kill, someone who's stupid enough to try
>> to take what is 
>> your property when you've got one of them handy.
>> 
>> Brad Haslett wrote:
>> > Herb,
>> >
>> > The nut cuttin' of the conversation is how much
>> should the federal
>> > government be involved in personal decisions of
>> morality.  I say, not
>> > much.  That should be left up to the states and the
>> locals.  I grew up
>> > in a dry township.  Other people with other ideas
>> about that moved six
>> > miles away. Everything is a trade-off.  Roe v Wade was
>> an unnecessary
>> > invasion of states rights. What certain groups
>> can't get legislated,
>> > they try and get decided from the bench. The issue
>> that started this
>> > thread was Gov. Palin's religious convictions. 
>> The first bill she
>> > vetoed was one that would strip health care benefits
>> from the gay
>> > partners of Alaskan state employees.  Her reasoning
>> and statements at
>> > the time of the veto was that is was unconstitutional.
>>  What greater
>> > litmus test is there?  The far lefts poster child yard
>> sign is molding
>> > and wilting in the sunshine.  We'll have this
>> argument another day
>> > under another banner and with a different cheerleader.
>>  This one
>> > turned out to be an empty suit on too many other
>> issues.
>> >
>> > Brad
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Herb Parsons
>> <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >   
>> >> There is nothing wrong with society determining
>> the "moral boundries"
>> >> they wish to maintain. There is also nothing wrong
>> with those moral
>> >> boundries being subject to change as said society
>> changes. In spite of
>> >> my religious beliefs, I do not now want a
>> theocracy, no have I ever.
>> >>
>> >> However, the notion that 5 men can forever dictate
>> to a nation of
>> >> millions what their moral boundry should be is
>> tyranny. I do not want
>> >> the feds pushing any agenda one way or the other,
>> and that includes the
>> >> federal judicial branch. I want the citizenry to
>> make that choice.
>> >>
>> >> I know, I know, it kinda blows your "Herb
>> wants his religion for
>> >> everyone" nonsense, huh Michael?
>> >>
>> >> BTW, all of the above reflects my personal
>> opinion. None of it intended
>> >> to be perceived by an reader or observer as any
>> type of fact, implied or
>> >> otherwise. They are worth at least as much as the
>> durability of the
>> >> media in which they are made, and their only
>> asserted value is that. All
>> >> readers and/or observers are free, and even
>> welcome, to ascribe to said
>> >> beliefs, or simply write them off as so much
>> bullshit.
>> >>
>> >> Oh, and Michael, you flatter yourself. I
>> didn't just recently "realize"
>> >> all of that. I DID make the absurd assumption that
>> you recognized
>> >> opinion when you saw it. Silly me.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>> >>     
>> >>> Todd,
>> >>>
>> >>> I certainly never wanted to remove God from my
>> life.  I, like Ben C.,
>> >>> have
>> >>> no problem with the coexistence of God and
>> science.  I cannot understand
>> >>> why
>> >>> every group in this country (religious or
>> non-religious) feels that the
>> >>> separation of church and state means that we
>> need to remove all traces
>> >>> of
>> >>> religion and culture from public places. 
>> Since we can't offend anyone
>> >>> by
>> >>> celebrating our religious rituals, we must
>> remove all religion from
>> >>> schools,
>> >>> government and the public.  I think that if we
>> remove all holidays,
>> >>> ethnic
>> >>> traditions, religious symbols, etc. the world
>> will be a pretty ugly
>> >>> place.
>> >>>
>> >>>  I do, however, feel that religious beliefs
>> are very personal and no one
>> >>> has
>> >>> the right to impose them on others.  I think
>> that this is what was meant
>> >>> by
>> >>> the separation of church and state, to
>> eliminate religious persecution. 
>> >>> How
>> >>> is one to deal with the concept put forth by
>> some faiths that place the
>> >>> responsibility for misdeeds by one on all of
>> society?  What is the basis
>> >>> for
>> >>> the following statement from Todd: "Each
>> draws his line of good
>> >>> conscience
>> >>> to justify acts past, present, or future in
>> his or her own life (or
>> >>> afterlife) - not to protect the legal
>> reproductive rights of every
>> >>> random
>> >>> Jane Doe."  What, exactly, does it mean?
>> >>>
>> >>> Mike
>> >>> s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> >>> Nissequogue River, NY
>> >>>
>> >>> From: "Todd Tavares"
>> <sprocket80 at mail.com>Sent: Tuesday, September 09,
>> >>> 2008
>> >>> 4:43 PM
>> >>>
>> >>>       
>> >>>> Michael, It is just another example of
>> taking God OR religion out of
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> equation to ease our conscience. Excluding
>> cases of rape, incest, etc.,
>> >>>> the parents of the developing fetus;
>> whether you consider it alive or
>> >>>> not, had a choice and responsibility they
>> chose not to exercise.  Is
>> >>>> the
>> >>>> knowledge and ability to perform surgical
>> abortion the only thing that
>> >>>> separates us from our animal urges and the
>> apes we evolved from?
>> >>>> Religious, Christian, Atheist, or Pagan;
>> view videos and pictures of a
>> >>>> "partial birth abortion"-- which
>> the legal rights of the mother to
>> >>>> choose, Clinton initially fought to try to
>> preserve and even a
>> >>>> civilized
>> >>>> atheist would exclaim OH MY F'ing GOD
>> and start thinking
>> >>>> differently...even if they'd never
>> admit it openly and risk
>> >>>> contradicting
>> >>>> their publicly espoused views.   Each
>> draws his line of good conscience
>> >>>> to justify acts past, present, or future
>> in his or her own life (or
>> >>>> afterlife) - not to protect the legal
>> reproductive rights of every
>> >>>> random
>> >>>> Jane Doe.   Let's look in the mirror
>> and stop lying to ourselves and
>> >>>> each
>> >>>> other here. (not a fact....just a thought)
>> Todd T
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>  From: "Michael D. Weisner"
>> >>>>  To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>> >>>>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise
>> Jesus, the "evolutionists" are
>> >>>>  going to save us from the Republicans
>> >>>>  Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 15:54:12 -0400
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  Herb,
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  You state as fact:
>> >>>>  "... the individual's religious
>> belifs (sic) involve yet another
>> >>>>  individual."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  You conclude:
>> >>>>  "You are advocating that a woman be
>> allowed to kill another living
>> >>>>  human
>> >>>>  based on HER religious beliefs, not those
>> of that living human."
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  The "fact" is actually your
>> opinion according to your religious
>> >>>>  beliefs that
>> >>>>  this is another human being. You then
>> employ your religious beliefs
>> >>>>  to
>> >>>>  close the argument in restating the
>> premise "... of that living
>> >>>>  human."
>> >>>>  There is no logic to the argument. It is
>> so only because you say it
>> >>>>  is so,
>> >>>>  and that is according to your religious
>> beliefs. This is circular, at
>> >>>>  best.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  I know that you can do better ...
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  Mike
>> >>>>  s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
>> >>>>  Nissequogue River, NY
>> >>>>
>> >>>>  From: "Herb Parsons" Sent:
>> Tuesday, September 09,
>> >>>>  2008 3:06 PM
>> >>>>  > Resent away Michael, but what did I
>> "present as fact"?
>> >>>>  >
>> >>>>  > And, beliefs aside, my reasoning is
>> not "circular". I believe very
>> >>>>  much
>> >>>>  > in an individual's right to
>> decide for themselves what they will
>> >>>>  and
>> >>>>  > will not do. However, when that
>> decision directly affects another,
>> >>>>  > especially the life of another, than
>> it is not the one individual's
>> >>>>  > choice to make.
>> >>>>  >
>> >>>>  >
>> >>>>  > Michael D. Weisner wrote:
>> >>>>  >> Herb,
>> >>>>  >>
>> >>>>  >> It always amazes me that you
>> have no problem putting your beliefs
>> >>>>  and
>> >>>>  >> opinions in the form of fact in
>> your arguments. The interesting
>> >>>>  thing is
>> >>>>  >> that the more I agree with the
>> basic principles of these
>> >>>>  discussions, the
>> >>>>  >> more I resent your reasoning.
>> While we may reach the same
>> >>>>  conclusion, the
>> >>>>  >> paths are significantly diverse.
>> >>>>  >>
>> >>>>  >> My opinions and beliefs aside, I
>> think that in order to state "I
>> >>>>  would
>> >>>>  >> agree, except in this case, the
>> individual's religious belifs
>> >>>>  (sic) involve
>> >>>>  >> yet another individual,"
>> one must employ circular reasoning, thus
>> >>>>  defeating
>> >>>>  >> the value of the statement.
>> >>>>  >>
>> >>>>  >> Mike
>> >>>>  >> s/v Shanghai'd Summer
>> ('81)
>> >>>>  >> Nissequogue River, NY
>> >>>>  >>
>> >>>>  >> From: "Herb Parsons"
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 09,
>> >>>>  >> 2008 1:58 PM
>> >>>>  >>
>> >>>>  >>> I would agree, except in
>> this case, the individual's religious
>> >>>>  belifs
>> >>>>  >>> involve yet another
>> individual. You are advocating that a woman
>> >>>>  be
>> >>>>  >>> allowed to kill another
>> living human based on HER religious
>> >>>>  beliefs, not
>> >>>>  >>> those of that living human.
>> >>>>  >>>
>> >>>>  >>> Rik Sandberg wrote:
>> >>>>  >>>
>> >>>>  >>>> Herb,
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>> Well, here you go my
>> friend. War is a terrible analogy.
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>> IF we are going to have
>> freedom OF religion, which would also
>> >>>>  include
>> >>>>  >>>> freedom FROM religion
>> and the abortion issue is mostly decided
>> >>>>  on a
>> >>>>  >>>> religious (or
>> non-religious, choice again) basis, it is not our
>> >>>>  place to
>> >>>>  >>>> expect anyone else to
>> assume our religious beliefs.
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>> Which leads us right
>> back to; the gov't should have no voice in
>> >>>>  this at
>> >>>>  >>>> all.
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>> Rik
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>> Ayn Rand was a prophet -
>> - it isn't my fault
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>> Herb Parsons wrote:
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>> I like your honest
>> assessment on Palin, but I disagree about
>> >>>>  your
>> >>>>  >>>>> labeling of the
>> position.
>> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>> If I say I'm not
>> going to fight in a war, but it's OK if my
>> >>>>  government
>> >>>>  >>>>> attacks another, am
>> I anti-war, or pro-war?
>> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>> Obviously,
>> you'll not have an abortion, that would mean a male
>> >>>>  could be
>> >>>>  >>>>> neither pro or anti;
>> however, anyone that believes the issue
>> >>>>  does not
>> >>>>  >>>>> affect me is wearing
>> blinders.
>> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>> Rik Sandberg wrote:
>> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>> Herb,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>> Agreed. Palin
>> claims no more religiousity (is that a word,
>> >>>>  sounds good)
>> >>>>  >>>>>> than either of
>> the other three candidates involved. She has
>> >>>>  also shown
>> >>>>  >>>>>> that she can
>> govern without forcing forcing those beliefs on
>> >>>>  her
>> >>>>  >>>>>> constituents.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>> On the abortion
>> issue: Yep, she's against them, for her. So am
>> >>>>  I, for
>> >>>>  >>>>>> me. I am
>> pro-choice. People just can't seem to get a handle on
>> >>>>  the idea
>> >>>>  >>>>>> that pro-choice
>> doesn't mean anti or pro abortion. It means
>> >>>>  you should
>> >>>>  >>>>>> be able to make
>> your own choice and let others make theirs,
>> >>>>  ie, mind
>> >>>>  >>>>>> your own
>> business.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>> From what
>> I've seen Palin, as governor of Alaska has been
>> >>>>  doing this
>> >>>>  >>>>>> too.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>> If I had my way,
>> the federal gov't wouldn't be involved in
>> >>>>  abortion at
>> >>>>  >>>>>> all.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>> Rik
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>> Ayn Rand was a
>> prophet - - it isn't my fault
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>> Herb Parsons
>> wrote:
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> Stan,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> What
>> evidence do you have that would lead you to believe that
>> >>>>  Palin
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> would force
>> her religious belief on anyone? My understanding
>> >>>>  is that
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> she's
>> all for allowing the individual states to set the
>> >>>>  standard.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> However,
>> that's really beside the point. As you said,
>> >>>>  anyone's
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> pinpoint
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> of the exact
>> time is a "religious" matter, or a matter of
>> >>>>  fath, thus
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> ANYONE
>> setting pinpointed time would be them foisting their
>> >>>>  beliefs on
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> others.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> Surely
>> you're not advocating allowing the parents to decide
>> >>>>  at any
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> time
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> they choose,
>> up to and including while the "fetus" is still
>> >>>>  in
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> college?
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>> stan wrote:
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> Slim,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> As a
>> member of your religious faith, and an ardent fan, if
>> >>>>  you really
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> plan
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> to skip
>> voting (in effect voting for those whose direct
>> >>>>  religious
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> instructions got us into such a waste of our wealth and
>> >>>>  blood) I
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> would be
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> truly
>> saddened. I don't think poorly of John's and
>> Palin's
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> inability to
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> live up
>> to their own family values, relying on their gods to
>> >>>>  forgive
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> them -
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> I worry
>> about their health; a topic that seems to be
>> >>>>  forbidden to
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> address.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> John's cheek is not like that from his prisoner days and
>> his
>> >>>>  vp could
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> be our
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> leader
>> without notice. Then where would this country's
>> >>>>  founding
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> desire
>> for
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> religious freedom end up? The first example is already on
>> >>>>  the table
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> Catholic
>> Joe has it right: When life starts is a religious
>> >>>>  opinion
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> should
>> not be one decided by government. You may feel life
>> >>>>  does not
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> start
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> until a
>> breath is taken, the Jews count a number of months
>> >>>>  before the
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> start,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> the
>> Christens count from the moment the cells begin
>> >>>>  dividing.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> Personally I
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> don't think it starts until after college. If we allow a
>> >>>>  Palin to
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> call
>> such
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> shots we
>> are on a path Jefferson and all those other smart
>> >>>>  guys
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> insisted
>> on
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> avoiding. McCain told the TV interviewer that if he had his
>> >>>>  way the
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> first
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> judge he
>> would get rid of is Ginsberg and than went down the
>> >>>>  list of
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> her
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> kind.
>> Once this is allowed to start (we already have allowed
>> >>>>  god
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> onto our
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> coins),
>> god (hypocritically speaking) help us - or we will
>> >>>>  all,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> eventually,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> become
>> strong advocates of the second amendment.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> John, at
>> least is a flip flopper so, if elected, would
>> >>>>  probably
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> revert
>> to
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> many of
>> his reasonable positions. It is Palin I am fearful
>> >>>>  will give
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> us
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> even
>> worse than another 8 years. (And this from a confessed
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> womanizer.)
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> stan/ec
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> .
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> -----
>> Original Message ----- From: "Steven Alm"
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> To:
>> "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> Sent:
>> Tuesday, September 09, 2008 2:02 AM
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> Subject:
>> Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus,the
>> >>>>  "evolutionists" are
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> going to
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>> save us
>> from the Republicans
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> Todd,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> I'm an atheist and I think Palin's a religious kook.
>> And
>> >>>>  you're
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> right, I
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> won't vote for a religious kook. I haven't studied
>> Darwin
>> >>>>  very much
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> (and
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> applaud your research and quotes) but I don't think
>> that's
>> >>>>  the only
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> rebuke
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> to
>> creationism. Since most of the species of plant and
>> >>>>  animal life
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> on
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> this
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> earth are in fact extinct, I'd call that
>> "unintelligent
>> >>>>  design."
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> You
>> said there are only two possibilities as to how life
>> >>>>  started.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> Are
>> you
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> sure? How do you know this? What I know is that all
>> >>>>  religions
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> serve in
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> answering three questions: Where did we come from, how do
>> >>>>  we live
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> and
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> what
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> happens when we die? Myself, I've answered those
>> questions
>> >>>>  to my
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> own
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> satisfaction and I don't need the church to tell me
>> >>>>  anything.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> Slim
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>> On
>> Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Todd Tavares
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Slim, Wow! are you are going to vote for Obama because he
>> >>>>  is a
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Marxist
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> or not vote for McCain just because Palin is a religious
>> >>>>  extremist?
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> :^D
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Glad you mentioned carbon dating. Carbon has been proven
>> >>>>  by many
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> scientists to be a wholly inaccurate method of dating. I
>> >>>>  am far
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> from
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> being a scientist...or a religious kook thinking the earth
>> >>>>  is only
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> a
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> couple of thousand of years old, but there is just as much
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> scientific
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> information out there to; while not proving creation is
>> >>>>  the truth,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> surely
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> proves evolution is improbable if not impossible. You
>> >>>>  are/were an
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> educator and were taught evolution from a text book, like
>> >>>>  we all
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> were.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Just because you read something in a text book does not
>> >>>>  make it
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> truth.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.darwins-theory-of-evolution.com/ Maybe we could
>> >>>>  all
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> stomach
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> creationism if we called it a theory too. After all that
>> >>>>  is what
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> evolution is...just an unproven theory. There are equally
>> >>>>  as many
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> scientists out there who believe they have proven
>> >>>>  evolution is
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> myth. It
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> was not Darwin's brainstorm anyway. He thought he could
>> >>>>  further
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> explain
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> a centuries old belief; that life arose from non life and
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> everything
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> sprang from a common ancestor. Modern scientists say it
>> >>>>  was that
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> first
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> amino acid or protein chain in the pool of "primordial
>> >>>>  ooze." I
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> like how
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> one Nobel prize winner (Biology 1967?) put it:
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> "There are only two possibilities as to how life arose;
>> >>>>  one is
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> spontaneous generation arising to evolution, the other is
>> >>>>  a
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> supernatural
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> creative act of God, there is no third possibility.
>> >>>>  Spontaneous
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> generation that life arose from non-living matter was
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> scientifically
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> disproved 120 years ago by Louis Pasteur and others. That
>> >>>>  leaves us
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> with
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> only one possible conclusion, that life arose as a
>> >>>>  creative act of
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> God. I
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> will not accept that philosophically because I do not want
>> >>>>  to
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> believe in
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> God, therefore I choose to believe in that which I know is
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> scientifically
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> impossible, spontaneous generation arising to
>> evolution."
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> (Dr. George Wald, evolutionist, Professor Emeritus of
>> >>>>  Biology at
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> the
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> University at Harvard, Nobel Prize winner in Biology.)
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> But the most interesting fact is that even Darwin himself
>> >>>>  realized
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> evolution was not workable.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> "To suppose that the eye, with all its inimitable
>> >>>>  contrivances for
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> adjusting the focus to different distances, for admitting
>> >>>>  different
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> amounts of light, and for the correction of spherical and
>> >>>>  chromatic
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> aberration, could have formed by natural selection, seems,
>> >>>>  I freely
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> confess, absurd in the highest degree possible."
>> (Charles
>> >>>>  Darwin,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> "The
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> origin of species by means of natural selection")
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> "If it could be demonstrated that any complex organ
>> >>>>  existed which
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> could
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> not possibly have been formed by numerous, successive,
>> >>>>  slight
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> modifications, my theory would absolutely break down."
>> >>>>  (Charles
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Darwin,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> "The Origin of Species")
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> "Often a cold shudder has run through me, and I have
>> asked
>> >>>>  myself
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> whether
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> I may have not devoted myself to a fantasy." (Charles
>> >>>>  Darwin, Life
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> and
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Letters, 1887, Vol. 2, p. 229)
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> I could post a few hundred quotes from noted doctors and
>> >>>>  scientists
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> to
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> try to "prove" evolution wrong or creation right.
>> I could
>> >>>>  "do my
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> homework" as we say here on the list and cite actual
>> >>>>  findings, but
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> that
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> is not necessary. Because to dismiss the possibility of
>> >>>>  God or some
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> other
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Intelligent Designer makes it easier to accept our notions
>> >>>>  that it
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> is ok
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> to be a homosexual (and not allow me a choice when the
>> >>>>  schools
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> teach this
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> gargage to my kids while denying the right to learn about
>> >>>>  the
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> theory of
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> creation along with evolution) or that it should be a
>> >>>>  crime to kill
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> a
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> tree, but ok to kill an unborn baby. Not to say everyone
>> >>>>  believing
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> in
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> evolution is an athiest (or a Democrat), but you have made
>> >>>>  me see
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> this as
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> a hinge factor in how I will vote....real issues aside.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Todd T
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Besides, it is not very PC to say we evolved (were
>> >>>>  "selected") from
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> apes.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> We don't want any of the apes that were not selected to
>> be
>> >>>>  made to
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> feel
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> inferior.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> From: "Steven Alm"
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Praise Jesus, the Republicans
>> >>>>  are
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> going to
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> save us from the Republicans
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 13:11:17 -0500
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> "Ahh, so the "tolerant" lefty has a litmus
>> test for
>> >>>>  religious
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> beliefs."
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Yes, I require that the candidates be sane, critical
>> >>>>  thinkers.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Palin is
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> obviously not. I wouldn't say that if she were a
>> Catholic
>> >>>>  or a
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Lutheran
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> but
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> here's a woman who wants to stare down the whole
>> >>>>  scientific
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> community and
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> deny things like carbon 14 dating and declare that the
>> >>>>  heavens and
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> earth
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> are
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> only a few thousand years old. You didn't just call ME
>> an
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> extremist, did
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> you?
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Brad, you left out the part of Kroon saying that his
>> >>>>  parishioners
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> should
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> pray for the completion of the pipeline because at the end
>> >>>>  of the
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> world,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> folks will flock to Alaska as their final refuge.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> I can't believe that was you quoting all that God stuff.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Slim
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> On Mon, Sep 8, 2008 at 12:18 PM, Steven Alm wrote:
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> "She's
>> already demonstrated that she is fully capable of
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> separating her
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> personal
>> beliefs from her duties."
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wouldn't it
>> be better if she didn't have to?
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Sep 8,
>> 2008 at 6:18 AM, Herb Parsons wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ahh, so the
>> "tolerant" lefty has a litmus test for
>> >>>>  religious
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> beliefs.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> She's
>> already demonstrated that she is fully capable of
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> separating
>> her
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> personal
>> beliefs from her duties. She vetoed a bill that
>> >>>>  would
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> have
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> denied
>> benefits to gay couples.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But, you
>> extremists keep it up, I'm sure you'll find (or
>> >>>>  make up)
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> SOMETHING
>> on her.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Steven Alm
>> wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> She's a creationist. Her Assembly of God stuff is a
>> >>>>  deal breaker
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> me.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Religious extremism cannot be tolerated.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>> most important legacy the president leaves is the
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> appointment of
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> the
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> supreme
>> court.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>> next pres might appoint as many as three. If
>> >>>>  Sarabaracuda
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> has
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> her
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> way,
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> say
>> goodbye to Roe V. Wade and hello to back-ally coat
>> >>>>  hanger
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> abortions.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Slim
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun,
>> Sep 7, 2008 at 6:14 PM, Herb Parsons
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> think it's funny that the candidate that was
>> >>>>  considered as a
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> running
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> mate for the Democratic choice a few years back, is
>> >>>>  now being
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> touted as
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> "more of the same". Keep trying though, you guys
>> may
>> >>>>  find
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> something
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> that
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> works.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> What exactly makes Palin a "religious kook", that
>> fact
>> >>>>  that's
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> religious? I think your colors are beginning to show.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> petelargo wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Ben, thanks for your post. As you may have noticed,
>> >>>>  there is
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> no
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> dialogue
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> with
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> the right-wing extremists. You are wrong, end of
>> >>>>  discussion
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> and
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> your
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> an
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> idiot to boot.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> When John McCain won the nomination, Bush disappears
>> >>>>  overseas.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> At
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> the
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> RNC,
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> no Bush, no Cheney (and no mention of them). They
>> >>>>  know it's a
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> failed
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> administration. Where were the solutions. Once again,
>> >>>>  they are
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> trying
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> frame the campaign as an ideology argument rather
>> >>>>  than an
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> issues
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> discussion.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Today on Face the Nation, "Sis Cum Ba and
>> WHA-LAA",
>> >>>>  McCain is
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> now
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> the
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> change
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> candidate and stated that he will end the incredible
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> corruption in
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Washington and the failed policies. John McCain has
>> >>>>  re-defined
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> a
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> whole
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> level of flip-flopping on over two dozen key issues
>> >>>>  within the
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> last
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> eight
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> years including his own authored bill that he was for
>> >>>>  and now
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> against.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> I couldn't give a poop about the experience argument
>> >>>>  of Palin
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> vs
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Obama.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> It's
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> a waste of time. The entire
>> >>>>  Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Rice-Rove,
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> etc
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> administration could be argued to be the most
>> >>>>  experienced
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> administration
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> the history of the White House. A huge amount of
>> >>>>  prior
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> "executive
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> experience". For the first time in recent politics
>> >>>>  the
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Republicans
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> had
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
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>> >>>> 
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> power in the white house, judicial, house and senate.
>> >>>>  How was
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> it
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> for
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> you?
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> It's one thing to drive a tractor trailer up our
>> >>>>  butts, but
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> when
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> they
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> start
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> blowing on the horn while there're doing it, it's
>> >>>>  really gone
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> too
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> far.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> A big thank you for the memories: the debt, the dead,
>> >>>>  the
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> twisting
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> intelligence to "sell" us a war on a country that
>> did
>> >>>>  not
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> attack
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> us,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> good ol boy ineffectual cronyism, and finally the
>> >>>>  shredding of
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> the
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> constitution. With Palin we now we get to have
>> >>>>  another
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> religious
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> kook
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> satisfy the so-called conservative extremist
>> >>>>  religious right
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> to
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> 'bridge'
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> them into this administration and get money.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Spending 5-10 billion dollars a month on Iraq and
>> >>>>  kissing
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> chinese
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> ass
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> (borrowing the money) of the most Marxist suppressive
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> government
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> on
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> planet at this time is a conservative value?
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Finally, the biggest hypocrisy of all . That these
>> >>>>  extremists
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> actually
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> think
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> that they and the republicans are the vanguards of
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> conservatism?
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> The
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> two
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> top key pillars of conservatism are less government
>> >>>>  and
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> government
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> intrusion
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> and fiscal responsibility. The only administration
>> >>>>  that walked
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> that
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> talk
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> 50 years was a Democrat that left Bush a 500 billion
>> >>>>  dollar
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> surplus.
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> He
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> blew
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> threw that in one year and it was prior to 9-11. And
>> >>>>  there is
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> no
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> greater
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> government intrusion that being told what you can or
>> >>>>  cannot do
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> with or
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> put
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> into your body. Palin wants privacy for her family
>> >>>>  decisions,
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> but
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> she
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> wants
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> to legislate publicly what you should do with yours.
>> >>>>  No
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> thanks.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Ben Cittadino-2 wrote:
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> My Dear Culture Warriors;
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> So....are we having fun yet?
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> First, I'd like to thank Richard and Slim for
>> >>>>  stepping up to
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> join
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> the
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> "Assault on the Citadel".
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> The bullets don't sting as much when the adversary's
>> >>>>  fire is
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> spread
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> out
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> among more than one target.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> In the words first uttered by Gen. "Vinegar Joe"
>> >>>>  Stillwell,
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> "illegitimi
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> non carborundum".
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> As for Tootle, Brad, and Herb, you guys crack me up.
>> >>>>  I posted
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> about
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Obama
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> only because I saw Tootle's post that
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> suggested anybody supporting Obama was either a
>> >>>>  marxist, or a
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> farm
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> animal.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> What did he expect when he said that?
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Herb, where was your outrage that Tootle would refer
>> >>>>  to some
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> of
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> his
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> fellow
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> "Rhodies" in such derogatry terms? Supporting
>> Obama
>> >>>>  or McCain
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> may turn out to be right or wrong, but if we debate
>> >>>>  policy
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> and
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> don't
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> engage in mere name-calling this "sailor's
>> bar"
>> >>>>  could be an
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> interesting
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> place.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Richard's "geezer" remarks are defensible on
>> several
>> >>>>  grounds.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> First,
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> he
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> was provoked. Second, he was defending ME.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Third, it was funny. Calling someone a "marxist"
>> as
>> >>>>  Tootle
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> did is
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> several
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> magnitudes worse than gentle kidding of the
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> "old fart" kind. Surely you see the difference.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> The positions I tried to lay out as reasons some
>> >>>>  people
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> support
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> Obama
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> were
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> intended as an outline of ideology (as Slim noted),
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> not an argument supporting any position. For
>> >>>>  example, Herb,
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> you
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> are
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> pro-life and will probably vote for McCain/Palin in
>> >>>>  part for
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> that
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> reason.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
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>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> I am pro-choice, pro-embryonic stem cell research
>> >>>>  and so I
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> will
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> support
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Obama/Biden in part for that reason. It is not
>> >>>>  hyperbole to
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> point
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> out
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> the policy differences that explain my choice. What
>> >>>>  I know
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> for
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> sure
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> is
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> that marxism and "sheepiness" have nothing to do
>> >>>>  with it. I
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> have
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> thought
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> about all of my positions on the issues I mentioned
>> >>>>  and am
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> completely
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> prepared to explain and justify them. In Brad's oft'
>> >>>>  repeated
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> mantra
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>  >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> know I have "done my homework".
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Enough for today. The games will be on soon.
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Cheers!
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> Ben C. , s/v Susan Kay, Highlands, NJ
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> 
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>> >>>> 
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