[Rhodes22-list] anchoring

[Bill Effros]

Elle,

Floating rode never touches the bottom.  It comes up completely clean.  
It is not scuffed, rubbed, chafed.  I have never heard of rode parting 
under normal conditions, and certainly not from contact with the bottom.

Bill Effros



elle wrote:
> My understanding that one of the major functions of the chain is to help eliminate chafing and thereby weakening of the rode on rocks or whatever on the bottom.
>
> elle
>
> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>
> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
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> --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] anchoring
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 12:58 PM
>> Bill will continue to say this is nonsense, and I'm not
>> going to say 
>> he's wrong. I AM going to say I think he's wrong.
>> The coast guard 
>> captain's class I took went over this, and disagrees
>> with him. Sometimes 
>> CG folks continue to do things based on
>> "tradition", but I think in this 
>> case, they knew what they were teaching.
>>
>> Bill Effros wrote:
>>     
>>> Rob,
>>>
>>> You need chain if your anchor is so heavy you
>>>       
>> can't pull it up by hand.  
>>     
>>> Then you need a windlass.  The windlasses destroy rope
>>>       
>> -- they work best 
>>     
>>> on chain.  Everybody makes a lot of money by
>>>       
>> suggesting that you anchor 
>>     
>>> better if you have a chain rode, but that is nonsense,
>>>       
>> and the enormous 
>>     
>>> weight of the chain in the bow totally throws off the
>>>       
>> balance of boats.
>>     
>>> In the process, people start drawing diagrams and
>>>       
>> providing pseudo 
>>     
>>> scientific explanations that make absolutely no sense
>>>       
>> when you start to 
>>     
>>> think about them.
>>>
>>> Then somebody comes up with the 22 feet of chain on
>>>       
>> the 22 foot boat 
>>     
>>> rode rule.  Which also makes absolutely no sense.
>>>
>>> A modern anchor is not like a cinderblock or an engine
>>>       
>> block.  It does 
>>     
>>> not just sit on the bottom, it digs in like a railroad
>>>       
>> spike, and is 
>>     
>>> designed so it can be easily released by changing the
>>>       
>> angle of the rode 
>>     
>>> from the surface.  Adding weight does not help it in
>>>       
>> any way.  Modern 
>>     
>>> anchors are designed to be  pulled at specific angles
>>>       
>> -- mostly around 
>>     
>>> 45 degrees -- which is what the 7:1 scope
>>>       
>> accomplishes.  Chain sitting 
>>     
>>> on the bottom defeats the angle of the scope relative
>>>       
>> to the anchor.  It 
>>     
>>> is counter-productive.
>>>
>>> If you want more weight on your anchor, get a heavier
>>>       
>> anchor.  But there 
>>     
>>> is no need to do so.  A 2 1/2 lb guardian anchor,
>>>       
>> properly set, will 
>>     
>>> hold you in place forever.  Your rope rode will
>>>       
>> withstand far more load 
>>     
>>> than the fittings on your boat. 
>>>
>>> Bill Effros
>>>
>>>
>>> Lowe, Rob wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Bill,
>>>> So why does everyone (well, most everyone) suggest
>>>>         
>> using chain on the
>>     
>>>> rode? - rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On
>>>>         
>> Behalf Of Bill Effros
>>     
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:59 AM
>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] anchoring
>>>>
>>>> Ben,
>>>>
>>>> In order to set the anchor you must put tension on
>>>>         
>> it.  This pulls the 
>>     
>>>> rode taut.  When there is no wind or current, the
>>>>         
>> rode will lie flat on 
>>     
>>>> the bottom, or float to the surface if it is a
>>>>         
>> floating rode.  But it is
>>     
>>>> not holding the boat in place.
>>>>
>>>> What most people call "dragging the
>>>>         
>> anchor" is usually "dragging the 
>>     
>>>> chain".  If you fail to set your anchor --
>>>>         
>> which you will fail to set 
>>     
>>>> properly if you never draw the rode taut -- you
>>>>         
>> can drag the chain all 
>>     
>>>> over the place, without ever properly setting the
>>>>         
>> anchor.  If you draw 
>>     
>>>> the rode taut and properly set the anchor it just
>>>>         
>> won't drag. 
>>     
>>>> A very small anchor can be used to hold a very
>>>>         
>> large boat in place if 
>>     
>>>> the anchor is properly set.  It is much easier to
>>>>         
>> set an anchor with an 
>>     
>>>> all rope rode.  The chain portion of the rode does
>>>>         
>> not change the angle 
>>     
>>>> of pull.
>>>>
>>>> Bill Effros
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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