[Rhodes22-list] Political -Criminal Activity -

Thu Sep 18 20:45:34 EDT 2008

Ed,

Correction, Mike Kernell is a TN State Representative.  His son will
be charged with a federal offense.  If it were merely a local charge,
he would cop a plea at 201 Poplar, Memphis and get a 30 day assignment
as a "community organizer" for ACORN.  Unfortunately for this "kid"
(who could be serving along side Trak Palin or my "kid" in the
service) he's in deep doo-doo.

Brad

On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>
> Brad said, "The hacker has been found, David Kernell, son of Mike Kernell,
> Tennessee Democratic Senator from the University of Memphis.
>
> Well I am also sorry that he is related your Senator.
>
> I would like to thank Ben C for pointing out that Brad suggested a criminal
> act upon the hacker.  I was equally disappointed that he failed to mention
> that if the hacker is prosecuted it would most likely be under federal wire
> tapping laws.  Now if it is his first offence, he will probably get first
> timer probation and a chance to epunge his record.
>
> Since he is a senator's son, he may escape altogether?
>
> Now as to Rob's remarks, he brushed off the criminal activity implying
> because hacking was common it should be expected in a political campaign.
> Wrong, that was Richard Nixon's logic why he tolerated the activity of the
> Watergate burglars.  I personally heard him explain that reason.  He I am
> just one small voice pointing out right and wrong.
>
> As to Jim Johnston's follow up, it is important to know who instigated the
> political talk on this forum in the first place.  Once he let the cat out of
> the bag, it continues, and if you haven't noticed the instigator sometimes
> still stirs the pot.
>
> Again, I am disappointed in the brushing off any criminal activity.  Here is
> a quote about the subject by someone most members of this forum disregard,
> but I offer the quote because of relavancy:
>
> "You know, morality is not defined by individual choice.  This is the
> problem.  Morality is what it is, and people have a problem with that.  We
> all sin.  There is not one of us that doesn't.  We are all immoral at times,
> some of us all the time, some of us very rarely, but some of us are immoral.
> The political answer to your question is that there is a huge voting bloc of
> Republicans to whom it matters in their leaders, because they believe that
> leaders set the example.  And these people are sick and tired of seeing
> what's happening when no morality exists in the production of television
> shows or movies or music or what have you, and they see literal filth that
> their kids are subjected to that is being put out there for profit because
> there's no morality."  Rush Limbaugh
>
> Ed K
> Greenville, SC, USA
>
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>
>
>
>
> hparsons wrote:
>>
>> So what sailing question are you concerned about for which you saw no
>> answer?
>>
>> jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net wrote:
>>> Quoting Ben Cittadino <bcittadino at dcs-law.com>:
>>> I am in total agreement with Ben!!! Rhodes22 is a means of communication
>>> about
>>> sailing with Rhodes as a common focal point. It was always interesting to
>>> read
>>> about other sailing experiences and often very informative. If you had a
>>> question(s) there was normally many answers or solutions offered by our
>>> down to
>>> earth fellow Rhodes 22 members. There are several political, religious,
>>> off-color, financial, medical, legal, gear head........forums to express
>>> one's
>>> self. Keep Rhodes 22 an exchange of sailing related dialogue. I also
>>> agree with
>>> Ben, I do not want to offend the participants we are making reference,
>>> their
>>> positive contribution over the years have been (are) invaluable. Jim
>>> Johnston
>>>
>>>
>>>> Dear Ed;
>>>>
>>>> I becoming genuinely concerned about you.  I'm serious.  This list is
>>>> supposed to be a "sailor's bar", full of fun, friendship,
>>>>
>>> spirited debate,
>>>
>>>> and some interesting banter about the Rhodes 22.  What are you doing?
>>>> Are
>>>> you trying to engender truly bad blood between list members?  Posting a
>>>> title like this is, in my humble opinion, dirty pool.  I want you to
>>>> consider moderating your tone just alittle.  You can make your points,
>>>> more
>>>> effectively I think, without impugning the integrity of Rob, or anyone
>>>> else
>>>> who disagees with you (me).
>>>>
>>>> Frankly, when I read the title of your post I thought you were referring
>>>> to
>>>> Brad's expressed desire to subject the internet hackers to prison rape
>>>>
>>> (last
>>>
>>>> time I looked rape of a prisoner was criminal activity). I was prepared
>>>> to
>>>> defend my fellow Rhodie (Brad) by telling you that we all know Brad was
>>>> speaking figuratively to make a point. He was referring to some
>>>> anonymous
>>>> evil doers who ought to be severely punished (a sentiment with which I
>>>> agree) and was using some hyperbole for emphasis.
>>>>
>>>> On the other hand you suggested that Rob's remark condoned the hackers
>>>> activity which it clearly did not.  You were just being mean.  Why?
>>>>
>>> Because
>>>
>>>> you see conspiracies in every sunrise for goodness sake.
>>>>
>>>> Lord knows why, but I do enjoy seeing you here and I don't want you to
>>>> give
>>>> yourself a stroke.  Be well,
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> Ben C., s/v Susan Kay. Highlands, NJ
>>>>
>>>> Tootle wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It was said today on this forum, "Nixon's aides went to prison for
>>>>> obstruction of justice, which strikes me as a much more serious crime.
>>>>> Everyone, especially a high profile public servant, should expect their
>>>>> accounts to be hacked these days.
>>>>>
>>>>> Isn't this statement condoning criminal activity?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this an example of what he is supporting?  "A message goes out
>>>>>
>>> over
>>>
>>>>> Barack Obama's Web site
>>>>> with the names, phone numbers and e-mails of editors and producers
>>>>>
>>> foolish
>>>
>>>>> enough to host Obama critics. With Mr. Obama's extensive digital
>>>>> following, and his extensive fund-raising and contact lists,
>>>>> shutting up the Democratic nominee's critics with a fraction of Mr.
>>>>> Obama's millions of supporters is relatively simple. The digital
>>>>>
>>> legions
>>>
>>>>> plug phone lines, crash servers and intimidate the advertisers
>>>>> of these media outlets. This must be another instance of the
>>>>>
>>> "new"
>>>
>>>>> politics that Mr. Obama frequently talks about.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds like the fellow travelers are out to 'kill America'.  I am
>>>>>
>>> waiting
>>>
>>>>> for a member of the Bar to support this activity?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed K
>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>  http://www.nabble.com/file/p19559178/MSNBC.bmp MSNBC.bmp
>>>>>
>>>>>
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