[Rhodes22-list] Health Care (Political)

Bill Effros bill at effros.com
Thu Sep 25 13:41:53 EDT 2008


Andrew,

You understood my meaning.

Bill Effros



Andrew Collins wrote:
> Bill
>
> I sense multiple meanings. Care to elaborate?
>
> The 'we', if assumed to be us Americans, then 'we' cannot agree to it as
> shown by the debate. 'health care' if undefined also presents probs.
>
> Andrew
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Bill Effros <bill at effros.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Andrew,
>>
>> We can't agree that having health care is good.
>>
>> Bill Effros
>>
>>
>>
>> Andrew Collins wrote:
>>     
>>> Guys
>>>
>>> Health care is not entirely economic. Having health care is good, right?
>>>       
>> I
>>     
>>> think we can agree on that.
>>>
>>> As an Enlightened Capitalist, socially liberal, econically
>>> prudent/conservative, admitted fallow traveller and small business owner,
>>>       
>> I
>>     
>>> pay for 85% of the healthcare cost for all of my employees. In NYC no
>>>       
>> less,
>>     
>>> which is more than double the cost in adjacent regions like New England
>>>       
>> and
>>     
>>> the mid-Atlantic (I know, I checked).
>>>
>>> Why do I break ranks with Wal-mart?  Let me count the ways:
>>> 1. It is the right thing to do.
>>> 2. I can't sleep at night if I don't do it.
>>> 3. It makes my employees able to have families and live like the
>>>       
>> civilized
>>     
>>> people they are. They need not fear becoming ill.
>>> 4. It makes them loyal, and makes them less likely to quit, so I profit
>>>       
>> by
>>     
>>> retaining the institutional knowledge they have in-house.
>>> 5. It makes my firm more attractive than other consulting firms when a
>>> candidate must choose between firms. Benefits are important.
>>> 6. All of the above works, we have very little turn over, the quality of
>>>       
>> our
>>     
>>> product is recognized by our stable client roster.
>>>
>>> One man's plan
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>> EC
>>> sv Carmen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> Rob,
>>>>
>>>> Did you take the time to poke around the website of the movie?
>>>> Liberal claptrap. I don't have the time or energy to debunk all the
>>>> silliness printed there but I will take on WalMart.  First, I love
>>>> WalMart, probably because I'm a heathen redneck and like the fact that
>>>> I can buy bullets in the gun department while my wife is shopping for
>>>> tomatoes, but whatever.  WalMart could offer its employees health
>>>> care, hell, they COULD offer them free housing.  You'd pay more for
>>>> goods at WalMart but then you don't shop there anyway, right?  Does
>>>> the farmer's market where you buy your arugula offer health care?
>>>> WalMart is a business and one that is very well run (and besides, if
>>>> my 401K doesn't recover I may want to work there someday).
>>>>
>>>> Do they have an economics department on your campus?  Maybe you should
>>>> broaden your education some.
>>>>
>>>> Brad
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:56 AM, Lowe, Rob <rlowe at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>> Too bad it's too true to be funny. - rob
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>>>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Brad Haslett
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:01 PM
>>>>> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Re publican's Web Site! (Political)
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>>>>> Ed,
>>>>>
>>>>> That's Funny!
>>>>>
>>>>> Brad
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Tootle <ekroposki at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> See:  http://imvotingrepublican.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I quote, 'stir the pot'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed K
>>>>>> Greenville, SC, USA
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>> http://www.nabble.com/Republican%27s-Web-Site%21-%28Political%29-tp19659
>>     
>>>>> 662p19659662.html
>>>>>
>>>>>           
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