[Rhodes22-list] Public Education - Yeah, it's POLITICAL

[Steven Alm]

Ah yes, lunch room duty.  Where I taught, that was affectionately known as
"The Bay of Pigs."

Mr. Alm

P.S.  Speaking of... I'm going back to classroom teaching part-time starting
next month at a music college in Minneapolis called The Institute of
Production and Recording.   ipr.edu
I'll be teaching music theory and class piano technique.  My wife and my
sister both teach there.  We're planning a takeover.

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:39 PM, Brad Haslett <flybrad at gmail.com> wrote:

> Here's a wonderful idea but four decades too late.  I set the
> benchmark for "lazy student" but with this policy in place like this I
> could have really gamed the system.
>
> http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08266/914029-298.stm
>
> Brad
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
> wrote:
> > See Slim, there ARE things we can agree with.
> >
> > I'm sick and tired of school officials who don't want to work. ANYONE
> > can take a set of rules, and blindly enforce them. It takes some skill,
> > and a caring attitude, to actually deal with children (and yes, that
> > includes 17 and 18 year olds).
> >
> > When my youngest was 8 (she's 24 now), she invited me to her school for
> > lunch. I played hooky from work and joined her. She and I had already
> > gotten our trays and were sitting in the cafeteria talking, when I heard
> > a teacher tell one of the other groups "No talking in line!!!!" She then
> > went back to discussing whatever it was she was discussing with her
> > friend another teacher.
> >
> > I wanted to:
> > 1) Tell her that if she could talk to her friend, then surely the
> > children she's being paid to work with should be able to talk to theirs
> > 2) Ask her if she stood silently in line when she went out to eat on
> > weekends at Luby's
> > 3) Bitchslap her
> >
> > Of course, my daughter was watching (and learning), so I couldn't do any
> > of those; however, I DID go speak with the principal and told him that I
> > felt that overly restrictive rules like that were not in the best
> > interests of the child, that socializing with others is an important
> > part of development. He said they had restrictions to "maintain order."
> > We agreed to disagree, and Katie moved to a private school.
> >
> > When rules are created for the convenience of the paid educators, rather
> > than for the betterment of the child, or out of necessity, then it's
> > administrators being lazy.
> >
> > Sorry if I offend anyone on this, but there are too many professional
> > educators out there that fit that category.
> >
> >
> > Steven Alm wrote:
> >> Herb,
> >>
> >> We had a high school senior up here just last week that was caught with
> a
> >> box-cutter in his car in the school parking lot.  The lot was being
> checked
> >> for parking stickers when it was spotted in plain view in the cup
> holder.
> >> OK, now the kid had an after-school job at Cub Foods doing, guess what,
> >> cutting boxes but the school has, as most, a zero tolerance for anything
> >> pointy on school grounds and he was suspended and threatened with
> >> expulsion.  The school board said it would be unfair to other students
> to
> >> NOT expell him.  After a week of wrangling and heated discussion the
> board
> >> decided to let him stay in school but with a heafty probation.
> >> Administration on steroids.
> >>
> >> Slim
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Watch this:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqJfqyzfCPg
> >>>
> >>> They had these kids ARRESTED!!!! Watch the dour faced "educator" hold
> >>> her face squarely serious as she talks about "disrupting an educational
> >>> environment".
> >>>
> >>> I want to one of the asshats look squarely at the camera, and say that
> >>> when they had these students arrested, they were acting in the best
> >>> interests of the kids they teach.
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, right.
> >>>
> >>> Ever wonder what some of us are so dead set against these bureaucratic
> >>> morons?
> >>>
> >>> I once drove my motorcycle through my college's library, LONG before
> >>> D-Day rode his up the stairs on Delta House. Guess I was just lucky
> that
> >>> 1) It was a private school more interested in people than the
> importance
> >>> of their jobs and 2) I was smart/desperate enough that I didn't slow
> >>> down until I was 20 miles down I-35.
> >>>
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