[Rhodes22-list] Gusset vs Compression Post

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Rick,
You have hit the nail on the head. Most of the "problems" we discuss on  
this list are owner induced, not a factory build problem. Stan builds the R22 
to  be almost bullet proof, but not owner proof. Compression post problems 
are  usually the result of overtightening the stays or water infiltration 
which leads  to rot.
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 4/22/2009 7:36:45 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:

Jim,

When was your boat built?

Mine is a '93.  It  has two fiberglass longitudinal stringers, probably used
to box in the  centerboard trunk and keel. Those stringers also support a
lateral stringer  which serves to raise the cabin sole for the head.  That
lateral  stringer was missed by the yard's initial inspection causing our
detour  down the gusset road.  IMO, the only way my forward cabin sole  
would
bow is if the whole keel ripped out.

Rick

On Wed, Apr  22, 2009 at 12:52 AM, <jimtracyjohnston at centurytel.net>  wrote:

> I have been following the comments on the mast support  issue(s). When I
> inspected the floor area under the divider wall  between the head and
> galley the plywood floor was noticeable bowed  down. Under this area is
> the cement material over the keel. I'm not a  naval engineer but it sure
> looks like the mast is supported by the  cabin roof, that is supported
> by a post that is part of the divider  wall, that is supported by the
> 3/4" plywood floor. I cut a 4"x6" piece  of treated wood to fit in the
> void between the bottom of the floor and  top of the keel. The wood was
> flat on top to fit even with the floor  (push it back up) and a
> rounded/taper to fit the contour of the area  over the keel. This filler
> piece had to be forced into the area under  the floor. The floor is now
> level. Remember the part I mentioned about  no engineer experience. It
> is possible I have applied too much  pressure on the keel area and the
> keel will fall off soon. I have  owned our Rhodes-22 for over 14 years
> and other small sail boats  prior. Note; I did NOT say I was a sailor.
> Leaks around centerboard  trunk, (been there), outboard motor mount
> vibrating loose from boat  while motor running, (yup), headsail jammed
> reefing, (some fun),  rudder pushed off pintle/gudgeon, (watch out),
> anchor in one area at  2400 hours, new scenery at 0700 hours, (good
> moning neighbor). I sure  enjoy reading about other boat owner(s) tails
> I mean tales. Jim J  "LOON" '86 Rhodes, Torch Lake MI.
>
> Quoting Blue Heron  <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>:
> > Finally, the issue has been  resolved.  The yard that replaced my mast
> step
> > is  concerned that since the new step is more rigid than the original, 
any
>  > flexing will go beyond the step causing the gelcoat on the cabin top  
to
> > crack.  So they were trying to figure out how to take all  the weight of
> the
> > mast directly to the keel.
>  >
> > They were thinking a gusset mounted on the longitudinal  bulkhead for 
the
> > head and extending under the mast would be  stronger than the 
compression
> > post I put in.  Based on  Stan's advice, my post is stepped on the 
lateral
> > stringer that  raises the cabin sole for the head.
> >
> > With  temperatures in the 70's promised for this weekend, I told them it
>  is
> > time to decide and give me back my boat.  Amazingly, they  now agree 
with
> > Stan.  Go figure.
> >
> >  Rick
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