[Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2057, Issue 1
Richard MacArthur
Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com
Mon Dec 7 13:14:04 EST 2009
You can't lift the mast by attaching a line from the mast to a winch on
the stern without using some kind of a gin pole to raise the lifting
point higher than the deck. The strain is too much since the force is
purely horizontal. You can get two strong men to lift the mast or you
can spring for the factory crane device which works very well.
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Today's Topics:
1. Hello, from new member (Derek Dodson)
2. Random thoughts for the day... (John Lock)
3. Re: Call for Advice; depth sounder (ALICE WEISZ)
4. Re: Call for Advice; depth sounder (cowie)
5. Re: Call for Advice; depth sounder (cjlowe at sssnet.com)
6. tarp for winter storage (cowie)
7. Re: Call for Advice; depth sounder (Frank Tugwell)
8. Re: tarp for winter storage (Gregg MacMillan)
9. Re: tarp for winter storage (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
10. Re: Hello, from new member (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
11. Re: tarp for winter storage (Mary Lou Troy)
12. Re: Hello, from new member (Greg PA)
13. Re: Rhodes22 Manual (Gregg MacMillan)
14. Re: Rhodes22 Manual (Gregg MacMillan)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:15:56 -0600
From: "Derek Dodson" <ddodson at ebcc.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Hello, I just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed before
except
on a small sail boat and so I
know I have a lot of learning to do about rigging and really everything
in
general. My goal is to set up everything on my boat so it can be set up
and
sailed single handed if needed.
I have read several things on the owners page and everyone seems pretty
helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
I have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
1. I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the hardware
that
I need.
2. My boat does not have the winch or mast support that is built
on
stern of boat that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to attempt to
build something and would like to hear from others for advice and even
some
pictures.
Looking forward to hearing from everyone.
Derek Dodson
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:04:26 -0500
From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Random thoughts for the day...
To: Rhodes 22 <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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1. I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear
your computer history if you die.
2. Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you
realize you're wrong.
3. I totally take back all those times I didn't want to nap when I was
younger.
4. There is great need for a sarcasm font.
5. How the hell are you supposed to fold a fitted sheet? (or a
standard mainsail? - JL)
6. Was learning cursive really necessary?
7. Map Quest really needs to start their directions on #5. I'm pretty
sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
8. Obituaries would be a lot more interesting if they told you how the
person died.
9. I can't remember the last time I wasn't at least kind of tired.
10. Bad decisions make good stories. (Bad decisions at sea are even
better - JL)
11. You never know when it will strike, but there comes a moment at
work when you know that you just aren't going to do anything
productive for the rest of the day. (Go sailing immediately - JL)
12. Can we all just agree to ignore whatever comes after Blue Ray? I
don't want to have to restart my collection... again.
13. I'm always slightly terrified when I exit out of Word and it asks
me if I want to save any changes to my ten-page research paper that I
swear I did not make any changes to.
14. "Do not machine wash or tumble dry" means I will never wash this
-- ever.
15. I hate when I just miss a call by the last ring (Hello? Hello?
Damn it!), but when I immediately call back, it rings nine times and
goes to voicemail. What'd you do after I didn't answer? Drop the
phone and run away?
16. I hate leaving my house confident and looking good and then not
seeing anyone of importance the entire day. What a waste.
17. I keep some people's phone numbers in my phone just so I know not
to answer when they call.
18 My 4-year old son asked me in the car the other day "Dad what would
happen if you ran over a ninja?" How the hell do I respond to that?
19. I think the freezer deserves a light as well.
20. I disagree with Kay Jewelers. I would bet on any given Friday or
Saturday night more kisses begin with Budweiser than Kay.
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:09:48 -0500
From: ALICE WEISZ <amicw5 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Frank,
I'm the other Kent Island resident with the Rhodes and control on the
tiller. "BEATS PROZAC" is dry-docked at Lippincott and you're more than
welcomed to stop over there and take a look. Good luck!
Alice Weisz
> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:04:48 -0500
> From: LKUHN at cnmc.org
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank,
>
> We have two Rhodes on Kent Island; one with and one without motor
controls on the tiller. Mine doesn't have the controls mounted on the
tiller and you're more than welcome to stop buy and give it a try. The
Rhodes with the tiller-mounted controls is on the hard but I'm sure the
owner won't mind if you look at the set-up.
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Frank Tugwell
> Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 9:02 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
>
>
> Many thanks to those of you who responded to my call for advice. I
will
> explore the archives with some care and see what else I can learn. For
now,
> I think the 8 hp 4-stroke motor type that Stan recommended seems
right. As
> does the blue color. And the bimini and the pop-top cover. I also
think I
> can use a depth sounder (beyond the centerboard solution suggested by
Stan).
> I am still concerned about motor controls, and guess I should check
with the
> manufacturers about these--since I have no experience with outboards.
>
> The other matter I have been considering is the ground tackle issue. I
saw
> a picture of a Rhodes with an anchor roller on the bow and have
contacted
> the owner but have no response yet. If any list members have added a
bow
> roller to hold an anchor, I would appreciate knowing what you have
used, and
> any pictures you might have. I anchor often (lunch, overnight)in muddy
> areas and can't imagine leaning over the pulpit dragging up 40 lbs of
sticky
> anchor with chain and then trying to hang it up on the pulpit or the
> forestay. A roller seems more civilized. On my last boat I also had a
wash
> down pump to clean the foredeck and anchor. It was an on-demand 12 v
pump
> that drew raw water from the marine head intake hose via a T
connection. I
> attached a small hose to a connection on the foredeck when I wanted to
use
> it. This may be overkill for a small sailboat, but it is something I
might
> explore. It did draw quite a bit of battery power...
>
> Again, thanks to all for your welcome and suggestions.
>
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Fuller
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank: Let me add my "welcome" to the chorus.
> I also wanted more advanced warning than the centerboard and went for
> overkill with a forward-looking sonar. At $800, it was a ridiculously
> expensive toy, but I have had as much fun with it as any gadget on the
boat
> & it is even sometimes genuinely useful in my shoal waters. Stan
mounted it
> thru the laz.; so it reads and graphs the depth under the entire boat
and 20
> feet forward of the bow. I don't think West Marine handles it anymore,
but
> you can probably check out newer models @ www.echopilot.com.
> BobF.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:28:32 -0800 (PST)
From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Frank:
You will see a lot of different ideas and preferences for how to anchor
your
Rhodes from the list. Some like to deploy the anchor from the stern,
some
keep the anchor in the lazaret and some keep the anchor on the bow
pulpit.
I like the standard bow pulpit and keep my 150' of rode and 8' of chain
in a
rode bag that is stored in a plastic crate in the lazaret. I walk the
rode
bag to the bow, attach the chain to the anchor and deploy. I find the
weight and size of the rode bag to be manageable however I agree with
you
that having a device that would make raising and cleaning of the anchor
and
chain would be a nice feature and would avoid having to lug the rode up
and
down. It is also appealing not to have to lean over the bow dunking the
mud
off the anchor and chain. For now I am happy with my current set up
however
I will be interested to see if others have implemented the kind of
roller
idea you are thinking about. I kept the original cowl vent installed
thinking I might try using it to stow my anchor rode but replaced it
yesterday with a nicro solar vent.
Frank Tugwell wrote:
>
> Many thanks to those of you who responded to my call for advice. I
will
> explore the archives with some care and see what else I can learn.
For
> now,
> I think the 8 hp 4-stroke motor type that Stan recommended seems
right.
> As
> does the blue color. And the bimini and the pop-top cover. I also
think I
> can use a depth sounder (beyond the centerboard solution suggested by
> Stan).
> I am still concerned about motor controls, and guess I should check
with
> the
> manufacturers about these--since I have no experience with outboards.
>
> The other matter I have been considering is the ground tackle issue.
I
> saw
> a picture of a Rhodes with an anchor roller on the bow and have
contacted
> the owner but have no response yet. If any list members have added a
bow
> roller to hold an anchor, I would appreciate knowing what you have
used,
> and
> any pictures you might have. I anchor often (lunch, overnight)in
muddy
> areas and can't imagine leaning over the pulpit dragging up 40 lbs of
> sticky
> anchor with chain and then trying to hang it up on the pulpit or the
> forestay. A roller seems more civilized. On my last boat I also had a
> wash
> down pump to clean the foredeck and anchor. It was an on-demand 12 v
pump
> that drew raw water from the marine head intake hose via a T
connection.
> I
> attached a small hose to a connection on the foredeck when I wanted to
use
> it. This may be overkill for a small sailboat, but it is something I
might
> explore. It did draw quite a bit of battery power...
>
> Again, thanks to all for your welcome and suggestions.
>
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Fuller
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank: Let me add my "welcome" to the chorus.
> I also wanted more advanced warning than the centerboard and went for
> overkill with a forward-looking sonar. At $800, it was a ridiculously
> expensive toy, but I have had as much fun with it as any gadget on the
> boat
> & it is even sometimes genuinely useful in my shoal waters. Stan
mounted
> it
> thru the laz.; so it reads and graphs the depth under the entire boat
and
> 20
> feet forward of the bow. I don't think West Marine handles it
anymore,
> but
> you can probably check out newer models @ www.echopilot.com.
> BobF.
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>
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:33:25 -0500 (EST)
From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Frank,
Since nobody else is worried about spending your money,I might as well
help you empty your wallet. The pop-top is a must for a overnight,as far
as I'm concerned.The bimini is also very nice,there are atleast two ways
to mount it,one is to permently mount it to the gunnels,like on most
boats. The other way mounts it on sliders that slide on the jib sheet
block "T" track, making it moveable fore and aft the length of the T
track. Mine is on the T track and I enjoy the options it provides.
On the anchoring issue,keep in mind I sail on a small,well protected
lake
with a 10 HP limit,so waves ,wakes and tides aren't an issue. For a
lunch
hook,I use a 8lb folding grapnel,with 100' of rode in a bucket,that I
store in the lazz.For overnight,I use a fortress with 150' of rode,that
is
kept in a Rubbermaid storage container,under the starboard seat,aft.I
almost always throw the anchor over the starboard gunnel just forward of
the stern rail,letting out the wanted scope,but saving at least 30' of
rode,in case I want to walk the rest of the rode forward to attach to
the
bow cleat. On the Rhodes,with the pop -top up,you can coil the rest of
the
rode and walk into the cabin,threading the rode around the shrouds and
lay
the rest of the coil in front of the mast.Then ,if you want to anchor
from
the bow,you can walk forward,with both hands free to hang on to the
shrouds for balence,and then cleat off the rode on the bow. To remove
the
hook,I grab the rubbermaid container from under the seat,walk it thru
the
cabin and set it in front of the mast from inside the cabin then walk
forward around the side of the boat and flake the rode in the container
as
I pull it in.
Jerry Lowe
S/V Country Rhodes '86
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:31:55 -0800 (PST)
From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] tarp for winter storage
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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My boat is scheduled to come out of the water next week and will rest on
jack
stands at the boat yard until spring. I have taken off the genoa to
store
inside and plan to leave the main sail and rigging in place over the
winter.
Southern Maryland winter weather is not as punishing as might be
encountered
in the more northern climates. I am considering putting a tarp over the
boom to partially protect the cockpit and cabin top. I do not plan to
lower
the mast and am not intending to try and enclose the entire deck, just a
simple tarp tent over the boom with some tie downs to the boat, not the
jack
stands. Does anyone else use this method and are there any suggestions
on
tarp size, how to tie it down? I see in the archives a lot of good
ideas on
pvc frames, entire boat wraps, sunbrella custom covers and discussions
about
tie downs to the trailer. My idea is to leave most of the boat exposed
to
the elements but provide a little protection to the cockpit and cabin
top.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:01:18 -0500
From: "Frank Tugwell" <ftugwell at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Thanks, Alice and Lee. I am going to be travelling most of the next
month,
but if we have a reasonably warm weekend day early in January, I will be
in
contact to drop by.
Frank Tugwell
Contact Details:
http://www.franktugwell.tel
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of ALICE WEISZ
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:10 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
Frank,
I'm the other Kent Island resident with the Rhodes and control on the
tiller. "BEATS PROZAC" is dry-docked at Lippincott and you're more than
welcomed to stop over there and take a look. Good luck!
Alice Weisz
> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:04:48 -0500
> From: LKUHN at cnmc.org
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank,
>
> We have two Rhodes on Kent Island; one with and one without motor
controls
on the tiller. Mine doesn't have the controls mounted on the tiller and
you're more than welcome to stop buy and give it a try. The Rhodes with
the
tiller-mounted controls is on the hard but I'm sure the owner won't mind
if
you look at the set-up.
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Frank Tugwell
> Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 9:02 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
>
>
> Many thanks to those of you who responded to my call for advice. I
will
> explore the archives with some care and see what else I can learn. For
now,
> I think the 8 hp 4-stroke motor type that Stan recommended seems
right. As
> does the blue color. And the bimini and the pop-top cover. I also
think I
> can use a depth sounder (beyond the centerboard solution suggested by
Stan).
> I am still concerned about motor controls, and guess I should check
with
the
> manufacturers about these--since I have no experience with outboards.
>
> The other matter I have been considering is the ground tackle issue. I
saw
> a picture of a Rhodes with an anchor roller on the bow and have
contacted
> the owner but have no response yet. If any list members have added a
bow
> roller to hold an anchor, I would appreciate knowing what you have
used,
and
> any pictures you might have. I anchor often (lunch, overnight)in muddy
> areas and can't imagine leaning over the pulpit dragging up 40 lbs of
sticky
> anchor with chain and then trying to hang it up on the pulpit or the
> forestay. A roller seems more civilized. On my last boat I also had a
wash
> down pump to clean the foredeck and anchor. It was an on-demand 12 v
pump
> that drew raw water from the marine head intake hose via a T
connection. I
> attached a small hose to a connection on the foredeck when I wanted to
use
> it. This may be overkill for a small sailboat, but it is something I
might
> explore. It did draw quite a bit of battery power...
>
> Again, thanks to all for your welcome and suggestions.
>
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Fuller
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank: Let me add my "welcome" to the chorus.
> I also wanted more advanced warning than the centerboard and went for
> overkill with a forward-looking sonar. At $800, it was a ridiculously
> expensive toy, but I have had as much fun with it as any gadget on the
boat
> & it is even sometimes genuinely useful in my shoal waters. Stan
mounted
it
> thru the laz.; so it reads and graphs the depth under the entire boat
and
20
> feet forward of the bow. I don't think West Marine handles it anymore,
but
> you can probably check out newer models @ www.echopilot.com.
> BobF.
> __________________________________________________
> To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/mailman/listinfo/rhodes22-list
>
> For the list Charter and help with using the mailing list and archives
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to
> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:27:13 -0500
From: Gregg MacMillan <gjm at techgra.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tarp for winter storage
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:31 PM, cowie wrote:
> are there any suggestions on
> tarp size, how to tie it down?
I know this isn't what you're planning to do, but this is how I've
always covered mine. Has always worked well.
(hopefully picture attached)
--Gregg
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:45:42 EST
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Chris,
I'm not sure why you are hauling for the winter since the best sailing
weather is usually the winter months. Your climate isn't much different
than
mine in SC and I never haul except for maintenance. I can't see any
benefit
in tarping your cockpit and your tie downs could scratch or damage your
fiberglass when beat around by the wind.
Rummy
In a message dated 12/5/2009 5:32:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ccowie at cowieassociates.com writes:
My boat is scheduled to come out of the water next week and will rest
on
jack
stands at the boat yard until spring. I have taken off the genoa to
store
inside and plan to leave the main sail and rigging in place over the
winter.
Southern Maryland winter weather is not as punishing as might be
encountered
in the more northern climates. I am considering putting a tarp over
the
boom to partially protect the cockpit and cabin top. I do not plan to
lower
the mast and am not intending to try and enclose the entire deck, just
a
simple tarp tent over the boom with some tie downs to the boat, not the
jack
stands. Does anyone else use this method and are there any suggestions
on
tarp size, how to tie it down? I see in the archives a lot of good
ideas
on
pvc frames, entire boat wraps, sunbrella custom covers and discussions
about
tie downs to the trailer. My idea is to leave most of the boat
exposed to
the elements but provide a little protection to the cockpit and cabin
top.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:59:20 EST
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
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Derek,
Welcome to the Rhodes owners list. There is a digital version of the
owners
manual from around the time your hull was built. I'm sure some of the
other members can either send it to you or point you in the direction
where it
can be found..
Three people can easily raise the mast without the crutch and crane that
comes from General boats. I lower and raise my mast towards the bow. I
use
the traveler bar as a trapeze and with two people on the mast it can be
easily raised or lower and kept under control.
That being said, the mast raising system from the factory is the safest
and
easiest method and can be done by one person. You will find that in
many
ways the R22 still handles like a small sail boat, but with many
attributes
only found on larger boats.
Single handing the R22 is a breeze. You will find the hull to be very
forgiving and your learning curve will be very short. If you would tell
us where
you are located or intend to sail, perhaps there is an owner close by
willing to help you out. We have people everywhere.
Rummy
In a message dated 12/5/2009 12:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ddodson at ebcc.com writes:
Hello, I just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed before
except
on a small sail boat and so I
know I have a lot of learning to do about rigging and really everything
in
general. My goal is to set up everything on my boat so it can be set up
and
sailed single handed if needed.
I have read several things on the owners page and everyone seems pretty
helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
I have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
1. I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the hardware
that
I need.
2. My boat does not have the winch or mast support that is built
on
stern of boat that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to attempt
to
build something and would like to hear from others for advice and even
some
pictures.
Looking forward to hearing from everyone.
Derek Dodson
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:29:53 -0500
From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tarp for winter storage
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Rummy,
Not sure if your comment was tongue in cheek but I suspect there is a
big difference between Chesapeake weather and SC weather.
We get winter gales that blow the water out of the bay and then the
approach of the next one brings higher than usual tides. This can
make for a 3 to 4 foot tidal difference and makes it difficult to
secure a boat in a slip when you are only used to a 2 foot
difference. If you live a distance from your slip you can't always be
checking your lines. We get weeks of frost freeze cycles and often a
week or two a couple of times a year where the temperature is well
below freezing. A few days below 10 degrees. The Bay can freeze over
up here in Rock Hall (it did 3 years ago) and small tributaries can
freeze over further south where Chris is. We can also get snowstorms
that bring up to 12 inches of snow. We haven't had one recently but
there was one in the last 10 years or so.
I'm not sure what you gain by tarping just the cockpit unless you can
do it well enough to keep snow out. Generally leaves aren't a problem
by now. By tarping the whole boat with the mast down, we protect the
sail in the mast, can leave the companionway open for ventilation and
keep water and snow out of the cockpit.
Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD
At 05:45 AM 12/6/2009, you wrote:
>Chris,
>I'm not sure why you are hauling for the winter since the best sailing
>weather is usually the winter months. Your climate isn't much different
than
>mine in SC and I never haul except for maintenance. I can't see any
benefit
>in tarping your cockpit and your tie downs could scratch or damage
your
>fiberglass when beat around by the wind.
>
>Rummy
>
>
>In a message dated 12/5/2009 5:32:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>ccowie at cowieassociates.com writes:
>
>
>My boat is scheduled to come out of the water next week and will rest
on
>jack
>stands at the boat yard until spring. I have taken off the genoa to
store
>inside and plan to leave the main sail and rigging in place over the
>winter.
>Southern Maryland winter weather is not as punishing as might be
>encountered
>in the more northern climates. I am considering putting a tarp over
the
>boom to partially protect the cockpit and cabin top. I do not plan to
>lower
>the mast and am not intending to try and enclose the entire deck, just
a
>simple tarp tent over the boom with some tie downs to the boat, not
the
>jack
>stands. Does anyone else use this method and are there any
suggestions on
>tarp size, how to tie it down? I see in the archives a lot of good
ideas
>on
>pvc frames, entire boat wraps, sunbrella custom covers and discussions
>about
>tie downs to the trailer. My idea is to leave most of the boat
exposed to
>the elements but provide a little protection to the cockpit and cabin
top.
>--
>View this message in context:
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:01:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Greg PA <baywindgroup at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
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Derek
Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
summer
working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my rigging
and
learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
website.
I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph winds
with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
the mast so they don't kink.
Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
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Greg PA
s/v Serenity
79 Rhodes 22
North East MD
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:46:10 -0500
From: Gregg MacMillan <gjm at techgra.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22 Manual
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On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Derek Dodson wrote:
> I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the hardware that
> I need.
Hi Derek--
Attached is a pdf of a recent version of the Rhodes22 manual.
Interesting and entertaining reading.
--Gregg
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:24:34 -0500
From: Gregg MacMillan <gjm at techgra.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22 Manual
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I guess that was too large (3.4 MB). Here's a link to it.
http://files.me.com/macmillan/jcolub
--Gregg
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On Dec 6, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Gregg MacMillan wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Derek Dodson wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the hardware that
>> I need.
>
> Hi Derek--
>
> Attached is a pdf of a recent version of the Rhodes22 manual.
> Interesting and entertaining reading.
>
> --Gregg
>
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> 2002 Ford Circle, Milford, OH 45150
> mailto:gjm at techgra.com
> http://www.techgra.com
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