[Rhodes22-list] welcome Derek
Captainpy
captainpy at verizon.net
Tue Dec 8 15:48:28 EST 2009
Welcome Derek,
My husband and I own a Rhodes which we sail here in Virginia.
We both took the boater's safety course offered by the US Coast Guard.
It was a great course we learned a lot, and got to meet other
boaters/sailors. It is well worth it and not expensive. At the time
We took it we also got a free l year membership to Boat US and a discount
Voucher to use at west marine.
Deena
Aka Captain Py
www.militarymarinia.com
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Frank, you and I have similar experiences since I now own a Rhodes 22
and I owned a Schucker motorsailer for 20 years. The stock boat came
with a 35' mast and I substituted a 50' mast in its place. I also had an
enormous genoa. This made it into a good sailer and it would point to 45
degrees (it had a centerboard but seemed to sail close to the wind with
it up or down, much like a Rhodes 22). For example I sailed it up the
Detroit river against the current and single handed it on a single
handed Mackinac race up Lake Huron (took a second place in class). My
boat was named Amazing Grace and that was because it would sail so well
even though it was 14' feet wide, weighed 30,000 pounds and only had a
3' draft with board up. I always believed Jim Schucker stretched the
lines of a Cal 25 and changed the keel shape to a long shallow rather
than a fin keel. On one club race I started 15 minutes late and beat a
43' William Garden designed Taiwan Ketch to the windward mark. Of course
it wouldn't compete with the light displacement racers. I sold it and I
understand it is in the Toledo area now. Good luck with your new Rhodes.
It is a thoroughbred sailer and is much easier to reef than your
Schucker.
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5. Mast raising system: was Hello, from new member (Todd Tavares)
6. Re: Hello, from new member (Derek Dodson)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:12:07 -0500
From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice
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Stan,
Sometimes old? How does that work? Sounds like a worthy objective for
us
who have become always old.
You're not evolutionary, you're revolutionary!
Rick
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:12 AM, stan <stan at rhodes22.com> wrote:
> and don' believe everything this group says about stan - he is not
that
> good and sometimes old, senile and grumpy.
>
> but do understand that many owners have boats much older than the one
you
> are getting so some of the down sides they refer to are not available
on
> the
> newer models with their evolution improvements.
>
> ss
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice
>
>
> > Frank,
> >
> > Don't believe everything Stan says about this group. He is old and
senile
> > and sometimes grumpy.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/3/2009 6:06:54 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > ftugwell at cox.net writes:
> >
> > Thanks for the welcome, Elle. Great group. Is your boat red? I
have
> > been
> > wondering about color. Stan thinks blue. I am thinking a wine-dark
red.
> > Advice appreciated.
> >
> > Frank Tugwell
> >
> > Contact Details:
> > http://www.franktugwell.tel
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of elle
> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 5:46 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice
> >
> > Ya 'done good', Frank.
> > You've just learned the first lesson as an R22 owner: Stan knows it
all.
> > Listen to him..(and Rummy & lotsa other guys here know stuff ,
too.)
> > :^0
> >
> > Welcome to 'da list.'
> > elle
> >
> > Beer is good....people are crazy
> >
> > 1992 Rhodes 22 Recycled '06"Watermusic" {Lady in Red}
> >
> > --- On Thu, 12/3/09, Frank Tugwell <ftugwell at cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > From: Frank Tugwell <ftugwell at cox.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice
> > To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> > Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 5:30 PM
> >
> > Thanks, Dave.
> >
> > Many thanks for the quick response. Stan is very high on the
owners
> > group,
> > and often says "ask the owners."
> >
> > Background: I have sailed many years, going from small (I built and
> > sailed
> > a
> > Snipe-class boat when I was in my teens, owned a 30' Soverel--like
a
> > Tartan--and most recently owned a 43' Schucker motor sailer). I
> received
> > an
> > offer on my boat a couple of months ago and, acknowledging that I
have
> > not
> > been going on cruises lately, decided to radically downsize. This
led
> me
> > to
> > the Annapolis boat show and the Rhodes 22. I will be sailing at
first
> in
> > the Potomac, with weekend cruises/overnights downriver, and then
maybe
> > moving to the Bay. I work in Crystal City, VA, which is a very
short
> > bike
> > ride to the Washington Sailing Marina, so that is my first choice.
I
> may
> > consider using the boat for the races held by the club that sails
out of
> > the
> > marina. I am 67 and relatively vigorous, hoping to teach my
grandkids
> > how
> > to sail. But the in-mast furling is a real attraction, as Stan
> > suggests.
> > I
> > have visited General Boats twice, and most recently commissioned
Stan to
> > build a new Rhodes 22 (expensive, but covered by what I received
for my
> > Shucker). I have had "project" boats for 20 years, and decided
that a
> > new
> > boat would be right this time. Hope I am correct.
> >
> > I am planning to have Stan install any instruments.
> >
> >
> > Frank Tugwell
> >
> > Contact Details:
> > 6406 Waterway Drive
> > Falls Church, VA. 22044
> > 703-658-9162
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of David
Bradley
> > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 3:47 PM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice
> >
> > Hello Frank. Welcome to the Rhodes list. If you tell us a little
more
> > about yourself, the waters you will sail in and the types of
sailing you
> > will do the folks here will be able to provide better advice. For
> > example,
> > if you are sailing in coastal areas with narrow cuts and strong
> currents,
> > you will be advised to get a larger motor than you might need on a
lake
> > or
> > open bay. Also, if you spend some time searching the archives you
will
> > see
> > that there have been many discussions on these topics.
> >
> > On your question on a depth finder, you can buy an in-hull type
that
> > shoots
> > through the hull, but you need to be sure not to mount it over the
keel.
> > Are you planning to have Stan install it, or do it yourself after
the
> > fact?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Frank Tugwell <ftugwell at cox.net>
> wrote:
> >
> >> This is my first post to the Rhodes list and Stan has suggested
that I
> > turn
> >> to the owner for advice. I am buying a new Rhodes 22 from Stan
> > (probably
> >> delivery in April, 2010) and have a number of questions about
options.
> >> I
> >> would appreciate any advice that other owners may offer. A couple
of
> >> questions, to begin with:
> >>
> >> a) What engine should I buy-what size and what kind? Note
that
> >> the
> >> detachable throttle and gear shift that appear on the boat-show
boat
> are
> > no
> >> longer offered by the manufacturer. I am particularly interested
in
> >> getting
> >> an engine that is strong enough to easily reach hull speed while
> pulling
> > a
> >> very small dinghy. I am also concerned that the engine allow easy
> > control
> >> when entering and leaving a marina. Any suggestions appreciated.
> >> b) What instruments do I need? At this point I am planning to
use
> > my
> >> handheld Garmin Oregon 400C for charts and compass. The one
instrument
> >> that
> >> I really would like is a large-screen, fixed, depth sounder that I
can
> > put
> >> on the cabin and see from the stern of the cockpit. I would like
to
> >> have
> >> one that is "in-hull" mounted, rather than "through-hull." If
anyone
> >> has
> >> experience with the options, I would appreciate help.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance.
> >>
> >> Frank Tugwell
> >>
> >> Contact Details:
> >> 6406 Waterway Drive,
> >> Falls Church, VA 22044
> >> 703-658-9162
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 12:40:32 -0500
From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
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Derek,
I agree w Rummy on all but the mast commentary. After several years of
manual raising, which can be done by 2 stout men, I had trouble
finding a mast raising crew when my son left for college 2 years ago.
While 2 can physically raise the mast, there is a moment of
uncertainty as you step up onto the cabin top from the foredeck when
you have minimal control from side to side movement and possible
disaster if it starts to go over sideways.
2 years ago I bought the mast system from Stan and I can now raise the
mast safely by myself. I think it is a mandatory purchase for anyone
who intends to trailer their Rhodes or store it annually with the mast
down.
Good sailing,
Stephen Staum, '87 R22, Carol Lee
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:59 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> Derek,
> Welcome to the Rhodes owners list. There is a digital version of the
> owners
> manual from around the time your hull was built. I'm sure some of the
> other members can either send it to you or point you in the
> direction where it
> can be found..
> Three people can easily raise the mast without the crutch and crane
> that
> comes from General boats. I lower and raise my mast towards the bow.
> I use
> the traveler bar as a trapeze and with two people on the mast it
> can be
> easily raised or lower and kept under control.
> That being said, the mast raising system from the factory is the
> safest and
> easiest method and can be done by one person. You will find that in
> many
> ways the R22 still handles like a small sail boat, but with many
> attributes
> only found on larger boats.
> Single handing the R22 is a breeze. You will find the hull to be very
> forgiving and your learning curve will be very short. If you would
> tell us where
> you are located or intend to sail, perhaps there is an owner close by
> willing to help you out. We have people everywhere.
>
> Rummy
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/5/2009 12:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ddodson at ebcc.com writes:
>
> Hello, I just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed before
> except
> on a small sail boat and so I
>
> know I have a lot of learning to do about rigging and really
> everything in
> general. My goal is to set up everything on my boat so it can be
> set up and
> sailed single handed if needed.
>
> I have read several things on the owners page and everyone seems
> pretty
> helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
>
>
>
> I have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
>
> 1. I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the
> hardware that
> I need.
>
> 2. My boat does not have the winch or mast support that is
> built on
> stern of boat that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to
> attempt to
> build something and would like to hear from others for advice and
> even
> some
> pictures.
>
>
>
> Looking forward to hearing from everyone.
>
>
>
> Derek Dodson
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:52:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
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Frank,
Sounds good--just give me a day's notice. I consider "reasonably warm"
above 50 degrees, and with global warming and El Nino I'm sure we'll
have a
few of those days.
I normally don't go out unless it's above 40 degrees but with today's
sunshine and forecast for 9 mph winds I may need to make an exception.
I
was out Friday when it was in the upper 40s but the wind was very
disappointing. The best part about sailing this time of year is that
you
don't need to keep your beer on ice.
Lee
1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
Kent Island, MD
Frank Tugwell wrote:
>
> Thanks, Alice and Lee. I am going to be travelling most of the next
> month,
> but if we have a reasonably warm weekend day early in January, I will
be
> in
> contact to drop by.
>
> Frank Tugwell
>
> Contact Details:
> http://www.franktugwell.tel
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of ALICE WEISZ
> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:10 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
>
> Frank,
>
>
>
> I'm the other Kent Island resident with the Rhodes and control on the
> tiller. "BEATS PROZAC" is dry-docked at Lippincott and you're more
than
> welcomed to stop over there and take a look. Good luck!
>
>
> Alice Weisz
>
>
>
>
>> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:04:48 -0500
>> From: LKUHN at cnmc.org
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>>
>> Frank,
>>
>> We have two Rhodes on Kent Island; one with and one without motor
>> controls
> on the tiller. Mine doesn't have the controls mounted on the tiller
and
> you're more than welcome to stop buy and give it a try. The Rhodes
with
> the
> tiller-mounted controls is on the hard but I'm sure the owner won't
mind
> if
> you look at the set-up.
>>
>> Lee
>> 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
>> Kent Island, MD
>>
>> ________________________________
>>
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Frank Tugwell
>> Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 9:02 PM
>> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>>
>>
>>
>> Many thanks to those of you who responded to my call for advice. I
will
>> explore the archives with some care and see what else I can learn.
For
> now,
>> I think the 8 hp 4-stroke motor type that Stan recommended seems
right.
>> As
>> does the blue color. And the bimini and the pop-top cover. I also
think I
>> can use a depth sounder (beyond the centerboard solution suggested by
> Stan).
>> I am still concerned about motor controls, and guess I should check
with
> the
>> manufacturers about these--since I have no experience with outboards.
>>
>> The other matter I have been considering is the ground tackle issue.
I
>> saw
>> a picture of a Rhodes with an anchor roller on the bow and have
contacted
>> the owner but have no response yet. If any list members have added a
bow
>> roller to hold an anchor, I would appreciate knowing what you have
used,
> and
>> any pictures you might have. I anchor often (lunch, overnight)in
muddy
>> areas and can't imagine leaning over the pulpit dragging up 40 lbs of
> sticky
>> anchor with chain and then trying to hang it up on the pulpit or the
>> forestay. A roller seems more civilized. On my last boat I also had a
>> wash
>> down pump to clean the foredeck and anchor. It was an on-demand 12 v
pump
>> that drew raw water from the marine head intake hose via a T
connection.
>> I
>> attached a small hose to a connection on the foredeck when I wanted
to
>> use
>> it. This may be overkill for a small sailboat, but it is something I
>> might
>> explore. It did draw quite a bit of battery power...
>>
>> Again, thanks to all for your welcome and suggestions.
>>
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert
Fuller
>> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:37 PM
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>>
>> Frank: Let me add my "welcome" to the chorus.
>> I also wanted more advanced warning than the centerboard and went for
>> overkill with a forward-looking sonar. At $800, it was a ridiculously
>> expensive toy, but I have had as much fun with it as any gadget on
the
> boat
>> & it is even sometimes genuinely useful in my shoal waters. Stan
mounted
> it
>> thru the laz.; so it reads and graphs the depth under the entire boat
and
> 20
>> feet forward of the bow. I don't think West Marine handles it
anymore,
>> but
>> you can probably check out newer models @ www.echopilot.com.
>> BobF.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 14:40:02 -0500
From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising Re: Hello, from new member
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I agree with Stephen on mast raising but I think it is important to
make it clear if we are talking about the IMF rig or not. The in-mast
furling system makes the mast considerably heavier than a
conventional mast. You are raising the weight of the main, the boom
and perhaps the jib in addition to the weight of the mast. If Derek's
boat is conventionally rigged (I think Greg PA's is a conventional
rig) doing it manually becomes much more feasible.
There are numerous designs for mast raising equipment on the Internet
but if Derek's boat already has the block on the cabin for the
General Boats crane he might want investigate the cost of a system
from Stan. It's a proven system.
Mary Lou
At 12:40 PM 12/6/2009, you wrote:
>Derek,
>I agree w Rummy on all but the mast commentary. After several years of
>manual raising, which can be done by 2 stout men, I had trouble
>finding a mast raising crew when my son left for college 2 years ago.
>While 2 can physically raise the mast, there is a moment of
>uncertainty as you step up onto the cabin top from the foredeck when
>you have minimal control from side to side movement and possible
>disaster if it starts to go over sideways.
>2 years ago I bought the mast system from Stan and I can now raise the
>mast safely by myself. I think it is a mandatory purchase for anyone
>who intends to trailer their Rhodes or store it annually with the mast
>down.
>Good sailing,
>
>Stephen Staum, '87 R22, Carol Lee
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:59 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
>
> > Derek,
> > Welcome to the Rhodes owners list. There is a digital version of the
> > owners
> > manual from around the time your hull was built. I'm sure some of
the
> > other members can either send it to you or point you in the
> > direction where it
> > can be found..
> > Three people can easily raise the mast without the crutch and crane
> > that
> > comes from General boats. I lower and raise my mast towards the bow.
> > I use
> > the traveler bar as a trapeze and with two people on the mast it
> > can be
> > easily raised or lower and kept under control.
> > That being said, the mast raising system from the factory is the
> > safest and
> > easiest method and can be done by one person. You will find that in
> > many
> > ways the R22 still handles like a small sail boat, but with many
> > attributes
> > only found on larger boats.
> > Single handing the R22 is a breeze. You will find the hull to be
very
> > forgiving and your learning curve will be very short. If you would
> > tell us where
> > you are located or intend to sail, perhaps there is an owner close
by
> > willing to help you out. We have people everywhere.
> >
> > Rummy
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/5/2009 12:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> > ddodson at ebcc.com writes:
> >
> > Hello, I just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed
before
> > except
> > on a small sail boat and so I
> >
> > know I have a lot of learning to do about rigging and really
> > everything in
> > general. My goal is to set up everything on my boat so it can be
> > set up and
> > sailed single handed if needed.
> >
> > I have read several things on the owners page and everyone seems
> > pretty
> > helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
> >
> > 1. I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the
> > hardware that
> > I need.
> >
> > 2. My boat does not have the winch or mast support that is
> > built on
> > stern of boat that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to
> > attempt to
> > build something and would like to hear from others for advice and
> > even
> > some
> > pictures.
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking forward to hearing from everyone.
> >
> >
> >
> > Derek Dodson
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:21:37 -0500
From: Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Mast raising system: was Hello, from new
member
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Derek,
There are a couple of videos on the web showing the GB system in use.
http://www.sailingtexas.com/Movies/Rhodes22c/srhodes22c.html
There are pics as well as an explanation of the setup and operation on
the Rhodes22 owners site (with permission of General Boats) and many
pics and discussion in the list archives.
http://www.rhodes22.org/rhodes/pics/GBMAST.jpg
http://www.rhodes22.org/doclib/Rhodes22-1988-MastHoist-Raven.pdf
GB has made several changes to their system over the years, mostly
improving how the mast is kept from leaning sideways and how the "crane
pole attaches to the mast. If you arehandy with tools, you can easily
make your own mast raising systemequal to or better than the General
Boats setup for under $200 in parts, supplies, and hardware. Having
never seen the GB system in use or in person, nor having read the
manual, I made my own. In about 3 hours, I made a system (using the
trailer winch) and had the mast down by myself with no trouble.
Do you homework so you get an understanding of how the GB mast hoist
system works first. I can help you with pics, explanations, material
lists etc. when you are ready to start building you own.
Todd Tavares
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Staum <staum at earthlink.net>
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Sun, Dec 6, 2009 12:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
Derek,
I agree w Rummy on all but the mast commentary. After several years of
manual raising, which can be done by 2 stout men, I had trouble
finding a mast raising crew when my son left for college 2 years ago.
While 2 can physically raise the mast, there is a moment of
uncertainty as you step up onto the cabin top from the foredeck when
you have minimal control from side to side movement and possible
disaster if it starts to go over sideways.
2 years ago I bought the mast system from Stan and I can now raise the
mast safely by myself. I think it is a mandatory purchase for anyone
who intends to trailer their Rhodes or store it annually with the mast
down.
Good sailing,
Stephen Staum, '87 R22, Carol Lee
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 6, 2009, at 5:59 AM, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> Derek,
> Welcome to the Rhodes owners list. There is a digital version of the
> owners
> manual from around the time your hull was built. I'm sure some of the
> other members can either send it to you or point you in the
> direction where it
> can be found..
> Three people can easily raise the mast without the crutch and crane
> that
> comes from General boats. I lower and raise my mast towards the bow.
> I use
> the traveler bar as a trapeze and with two people on the mast it
> can be
> easily raised or lower and kept under control.
> That being said, the mast raising system from the factory is the
> safest and
> easiest method and can be done by one person. You will find that in
> many
> ways the R22 still handles like a small sail boat, but with many
> attributes
> only found on larger boats.
> Single handing the R22 is a breeze. You will find the hull to be very
> forgiving and your learning curve will be very short. If you would
> tell us where
> you are located or intend to sail, perhaps there is an owner close by
> willing to help you out. We have people everywhere.
>
> Rummy
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/5/2009 12:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> ddodson at ebcc.com writes:
>
> Hello, I just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed before
> except
> on a small sail boat and so I
>
> know I have a lot of learning to do about rigging and really
> everything in
> general. My goal is to set up everything on my boat so it can be
> set up and
> sailed single handed if needed.
>
> I have read several things on the owners page and everyone seems
> pretty
> helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
>
>
>
> I have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
>
> 1. I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the
> hardware that
> I need.
>
> 2. My boat does not have the winch or mast support that is
> built on
> stern of boat that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to
> attempt to
> build something and would like to hear from others for advice and
> even
> some
> pictures.
>
>
>
> Looking forward to hearing from everyone.
>
>
>
> Derek Dodson
>
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
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>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:00:48 -0600
From: "Derek Dodson" <ddodson at ebcc.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Thanks Greg,
I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
are
some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
pretty
sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some things
in
a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
Thanks for the advice
Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
Derek
Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
summer
working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my rigging
and
learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
website.
I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph winds
with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
the mast so they don't kink.
Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
-----
Greg PA
s/v Serenity
79 Rhodes 22
North East MD
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:04:33 -0500
From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Derek,
There are no ropes on a boat. There is running rigging and standing
rigging. Running rigging consists of the lines, such as halyards and
sheets, that are used to control the sails. The standing rigging on a
rhodes 22 consists of stainless steel stranded wire to support the mast
such
as the forestay, side upper and lower stays and the aft stays. Gotta
keep
up with the terminology. :-)
Hank
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Derek Dodson <ddodson at ebcc.com> wrote:
> Thanks Greg,
> I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
> bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
are
> some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
> pretty
> sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some
things in
> a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
> Thanks for the advice
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
>
> Derek
> Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
> this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
> summer
> working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my
rigging
> and
> learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
>
> I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
> website.
>
> I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
> I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph
winds
> with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
> the mast so they don't kink.
>
> Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
> rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
> seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
>
> Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
>
>
> -----
> Greg PA
> s/v Serenity
> 79 Rhodes 22
> North East MD
>
> --
> View this message in context:
>
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>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 19:10:28 -0600
From: "Derek Dodson" <ddodson at ebcc.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Thanks Hank,
I am very new to sailing and this is my first real sail boat. I am
learning
some of the terminology. However what do you call the rope you tie to
the
anchor chain, and the rope you tie to the dock?
Derek
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:05 PM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
Derek,
There are no ropes on a boat. There is running rigging and standing
rigging. Running rigging consists of the lines, such as halyards and
sheets, that are used to control the sails. The standing rigging on a
rhodes 22 consists of stainless steel stranded wire to support the mast
such
as the forestay, side upper and lower stays and the aft stays. Gotta
keep
up with the terminology. :-)
Hank
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Derek Dodson <ddodson at ebcc.com> wrote:
> Thanks Greg,
> I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
> bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
are
> some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
> pretty
> sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some
things
in
> a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
> Thanks for the advice
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
>
> Derek
> Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
> this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
> summer
> working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my
rigging
> and
> learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
>
> I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
> website.
>
> I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
> I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph
winds
> with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
> the mast so they don't kink.
>
> Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
> rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
> seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
>
> Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
>
>
> -----
> Greg PA
> s/v Serenity
> 79 Rhodes 22
> North East MD
>
> --
> View this message in context:
>
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>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 20:14:01 -0500
From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
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Anchor rode and dock lines.
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Derek Dodson <ddodson at ebcc.com> wrote:
> Thanks Hank,
> I am very new to sailing and this is my first real sail boat. I am
learning
> some of the terminology. However what do you call the rope you tie to
the
> anchor chain, and the rope you tie to the dock?
>
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 7:05 PM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
> Derek,
>
> There are no ropes on a boat. There is running rigging and standing
> rigging. Running rigging consists of the lines, such as halyards and
> sheets, that are used to control the sails. The standing rigging on a
> rhodes 22 consists of stainless steel stranded wire to support the
mast
> such
> as the forestay, side upper and lower stays and the aft stays. Gotta
keep
> up with the terminology. :-)
>
> Hank
>
> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 8:00 PM, Derek Dodson <ddodson at ebcc.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Greg,
> > I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
> > bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However
there
> are
> > some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I
am
> > pretty
> > sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some
things
> in
> > a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
> > Thanks for the advice
> > Derek
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
> > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
> > To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
> >
> >
> > Derek
> > Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The
people on
> > this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by
the
> > summer
> > working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my
rigging
> > and
> > learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
> >
> > I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
> > website.
> >
> > I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
> easily,
> > I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph
winds
> > with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the
stays to
> > the mast so they don't kink.
> >
> > Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
> running
> > rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine
I
> have
> > seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
> >
> > Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want
to
> talk.
> >
> >
> > -----
> > Greg PA
> > s/v Serenity
> > 79 Rhodes 22
> > North East MD
> >
> > --
> > View this message in context:
> >
http://old.nabble.com/Hello%2C-from-new-member-tp26657439p26665265.html
> > Sent from the Rhodes 22 mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > To subscribe/unsubscribe go to
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Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Word to PDF
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FYI -
Open Office is free, runs on Windows, LINUX, Mac, etc.
It has all the important functions of MS Office.
It also puts out PDF files from spread sheets, documents, etc.
Sincerely,
Blanche DeFord
--- On Tue, 12/1/09, Ben Schultz <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
wrote:
From: Ben Schultz <benonvelvetelvis at theskinnyonbenny.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Word to PDF
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 1, 2009, 8:49 AM
In case Rummy or anyone else is interested:? Microsoft has a free add-in
for
Office 2007 that will allow you to publish word docs, spreadsheets, and
access reports to PDF.? I don't know why they make you hunt for it
online
and install it separately.? I didn't bookmark the page where you get it;
hopefully it's not hard to find.
That's probably too big a PITA to worry with just for an occasional post
to
this list, but if you ever send docs to clients or vendors and have
version
problems, then this can be quite helpful.
Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of John Lock
Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 10:39
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Condensation
Yeah I'm guessing Word docs are getting stripped.? Can you save it as?
a PDF?? More useful that way anyway.? If you can't convert it, send it?
to me and I'll do it for you.
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
On Dec 1, 2009, at 05:54, R22RumRunner at aol.com wrote:
> Well, I see the attachment (word document) was stripped. John, any?
> help
> here? If anyone wants the drawing I will send it directly.
>
> Rummy
>
>
> In a message dated 12/1/2009 5:52:10 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> R22RumRunner at aol.com writes:
>
> Many? years ago I was having condensation problems in Rum Runner. I?
> wasn't
>
> satisfied with the amount of air the Nicro vent moved so I made my own
> using
> a? 12 volt case fan from a computer. Attached is the drawing I? made?
> at the
> time to? explain to the list what I had made. It worked? very?
> efficiently
> and
> eliminated? my condensation/mildew problem? completely.
>
> Rummy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 07:14:34 -0500
From: "KUHN, LELAND" <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
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Greg,
"I priced some things in
a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced." Welcome to boating!
Cleaning, cruising, safety, and fishing supplies you can pick up at your
local K-Mart. I bought some cheap dock lines there that aren't very
pretty but work just fine.
West Marine prices are high but they usually carry most of the sailing
supplies you'll need. Browse the store and write down everything you
need and then go online and find the best prices. West Marine will
match the online prices of their competitors.
Good luck!
Lee
1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
Kent Island, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dodson
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:01 PM
To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
Thanks Greg,
I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
have
bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
are
some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
pretty
sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some things
in
a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
Thanks for the advice
Derek
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
Derek
Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
summer
working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my rigging
and
learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
website.
I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph winds
with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
the mast so they don't kink.
Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
-----
Greg PA
s/v Serenity
79 Rhodes 22
North East MD
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 08:44:37 -0500
From: "Michael D. Weisner" <mweisner at ebsmed.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
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Can you say http://www.defender.com/?
Mike
s/v Shanghai'd Summer ('81)
Nissequogue River, NY
From: "KUHN, LELAND" Monday, December 07, 2009 7:14 AM
> Greg,
>
> "I priced some things in
> a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced." Welcome to
boating!
>
> Cleaning, cruising, safety, and fishing supplies you can pick up at
your
> local K-Mart. I bought some cheap dock lines there that aren't very
> pretty but work just fine.
>
> West Marine prices are high but they usually carry most of the sailing
> supplies you'll need. Browse the store and write down everything you
> need and then go online and find the best prices. West Marine will
> match the online prices of their competitors.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Derek Dodson
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:01 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
> Thanks Greg,
> I also have wondered if there was a way to buy some cheaper items. I
> have
> bought my boat and am told by buyer it is ready to sail. However there
> are
> some things I would like to do to it before I make first launch. I am
> pretty
> sure there are some things I need to get like rope. I priced some
things
> in
> a sail shop and it seems they are way over priced.
> Thanks for the advice
> Derek
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Greg PA
> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 8:02 AM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
>
>
> Derek
> Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
> on
> this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
> summer
> working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my
rigging
> and
> learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
>
> I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
> website.
>
> I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
> easily,
> I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph
winds
> with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
> to
> the mast so they don't kink.
>
> Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
> running
> rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
> have
> seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
>
> Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
> talk.
>
>
> -----
> Greg PA
> s/v Serenity
> 79 Rhodes 22
> North East MD
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:14:04 -0500
From: "Richard MacArthur" <Richard at MacArthurLawFirm.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22-list Digest, Vol 2057, Issue 1
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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You can't lift the mast by attaching a line from the mast to a winch on
the stern without using some kind of a gin pole to raise the lifting
point higher than the deck. The strain is too much since the force is
purely horizontal. You can get two strong men to lift the mast or you
can spring for the factory crane device which works very well.
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3. Re: Call for Advice; depth sounder (ALICE WEISZ)
4. Re: Call for Advice; depth sounder (cowie)
5. Re: Call for Advice; depth sounder (cjlowe at sssnet.com)
6. tarp for winter storage (cowie)
7. Re: Call for Advice; depth sounder (Frank Tugwell)
8. Re: tarp for winter storage (Gregg MacMillan)
9. Re: tarp for winter storage (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
10. Re: Hello, from new member (R22RumRunner at aol.com)
11. Re: tarp for winter storage (Mary Lou Troy)
12. Re: Hello, from new member (Greg PA)
13. Re: Rhodes22 Manual (Gregg MacMillan)
14. Re: Rhodes22 Manual (Gregg MacMillan)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 11:15:56 -0600
From: "Derek Dodson" <ddodson at ebcc.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
To: <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Hello, I just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed before
except
on a small sail boat and so I
know I have a lot of learning to do about rigging and really everything
in
general. My goal is to set up everything on my boat so it can be set up
and
sailed single handed if needed.
I have read several things on the owners page and everyone seems pretty
helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
I have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
1. I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the hardware
that
I need.
2. My boat does not have the winch or mast support that is built
on
stern of boat that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to attempt to
build something and would like to hear from others for advice and even
some
pictures.
Looking forward to hearing from everyone.
Derek Dodson
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:04:26 -0500
From: John Lock <jlock at relevantarts.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Random thoughts for the day...
To: Rhodes 22 <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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1. I think part of a best friend's job should be to immediately clear
your computer history if you die.
2. Nothing sucks more than that moment during an argument when you
realize you're wrong.
3. I totally take back all those times I didn't want to nap when I was
younger.
4. There is great need for a sarcasm font.
5. How the hell are you supposed to fold a fitted sheet? (or a
standard mainsail? - JL)
6. Was learning cursive really necessary?
7. Map Quest really needs to start their directions on #5. I'm pretty
sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.
8. Obituaries would be a lot more interesting if they told you how the
person died.
9. I can't remember the last time I wasn't at least kind of tired.
10. Bad decisions make good stories. (Bad decisions at sea are even
better - JL)
11. You never know when it will strike, but there comes a moment at
work when you know that you just aren't going to do anything
productive for the rest of the day. (Go sailing immediately - JL)
12. Can we all just agree to ignore whatever comes after Blue Ray? I
don't want to have to restart my collection... again.
13. I'm always slightly terrified when I exit out of Word and it asks
me if I want to save any changes to my ten-page research paper that I
swear I did not make any changes to.
14. "Do not machine wash or tumble dry" means I will never wash this
-- ever.
15. I hate when I just miss a call by the last ring (Hello? Hello?
Damn it!), but when I immediately call back, it rings nine times and
goes to voicemail. What'd you do after I didn't answer? Drop the
phone and run away?
16. I hate leaving my house confident and looking good and then not
seeing anyone of importance the entire day. What a waste.
17. I keep some people's phone numbers in my phone just so I know not
to answer when they call.
18 My 4-year old son asked me in the car the other day "Dad what would
happen if you ran over a ninja?" How the hell do I respond to that?
19. I think the freezer deserves a light as well.
20. I disagree with Kay Jewelers. I would bet on any given Friday or
Saturday night more kisses begin with Budweiser than Kay.
Cheers!
John Lock
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
Lake Sinclair, GA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:09:48 -0500
From: ALICE WEISZ <amicw5 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
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Frank,
I'm the other Kent Island resident with the Rhodes and control on the
tiller. "BEATS PROZAC" is dry-docked at Lippincott and you're more than
welcomed to stop over there and take a look. Good luck!
Alice Weisz
> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:04:48 -0500
> From: LKUHN at cnmc.org
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank,
>
> We have two Rhodes on Kent Island; one with and one without motor
controls on the tiller. Mine doesn't have the controls mounted on the
tiller and you're more than welcome to stop buy and give it a try. The
Rhodes with the tiller-mounted controls is on the hard but I'm sure the
owner won't mind if you look at the set-up.
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Frank Tugwell
> Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 9:02 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
>
>
> Many thanks to those of you who responded to my call for advice. I
will
> explore the archives with some care and see what else I can learn. For
now,
> I think the 8 hp 4-stroke motor type that Stan recommended seems
right. As
> does the blue color. And the bimini and the pop-top cover. I also
think I
> can use a depth sounder (beyond the centerboard solution suggested by
Stan).
> I am still concerned about motor controls, and guess I should check
with the
> manufacturers about these--since I have no experience with outboards.
>
> The other matter I have been considering is the ground tackle issue. I
saw
> a picture of a Rhodes with an anchor roller on the bow and have
contacted
> the owner but have no response yet. If any list members have added a
bow
> roller to hold an anchor, I would appreciate knowing what you have
used, and
> any pictures you might have. I anchor often (lunch, overnight)in muddy
> areas and can't imagine leaning over the pulpit dragging up 40 lbs of
sticky
> anchor with chain and then trying to hang it up on the pulpit or the
> forestay. A roller seems more civilized. On my last boat I also had a
wash
> down pump to clean the foredeck and anchor. It was an on-demand 12 v
pump
> that drew raw water from the marine head intake hose via a T
connection. I
> attached a small hose to a connection on the foredeck when I wanted to
use
> it. This may be overkill for a small sailboat, but it is something I
might
> explore. It did draw quite a bit of battery power...
>
> Again, thanks to all for your welcome and suggestions.
>
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Fuller
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank: Let me add my "welcome" to the chorus.
> I also wanted more advanced warning than the centerboard and went for
> overkill with a forward-looking sonar. At $800, it was a ridiculously
> expensive toy, but I have had as much fun with it as any gadget on the
boat
> & it is even sometimes genuinely useful in my shoal waters. Stan
mounted it
> thru the laz.; so it reads and graphs the depth under the entire boat
and 20
> feet forward of the bow. I don't think West Marine handles it anymore,
but
> you can probably check out newer models @ www.echopilot.com.
> BobF.
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 10:28:32 -0800 (PST)
From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
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Frank:
You will see a lot of different ideas and preferences for how to anchor
your
Rhodes from the list. Some like to deploy the anchor from the stern,
some
keep the anchor in the lazaret and some keep the anchor on the bow
pulpit.
I like the standard bow pulpit and keep my 150' of rode and 8' of chain
in a
rode bag that is stored in a plastic crate in the lazaret. I walk the
rode
bag to the bow, attach the chain to the anchor and deploy. I find the
weight and size of the rode bag to be manageable however I agree with
you
that having a device that would make raising and cleaning of the anchor
and
chain would be a nice feature and would avoid having to lug the rode up
and
down. It is also appealing not to have to lean over the bow dunking the
mud
off the anchor and chain. For now I am happy with my current set up
however
I will be interested to see if others have implemented the kind of
roller
idea you are thinking about. I kept the original cowl vent installed
thinking I might try using it to stow my anchor rode but replaced it
yesterday with a nicro solar vent.
Frank Tugwell wrote:
>
> Many thanks to those of you who responded to my call for advice. I
will
> explore the archives with some care and see what else I can learn.
For
> now,
> I think the 8 hp 4-stroke motor type that Stan recommended seems
right.
> As
> does the blue color. And the bimini and the pop-top cover. I also
think I
> can use a depth sounder (beyond the centerboard solution suggested by
> Stan).
> I am still concerned about motor controls, and guess I should check
with
> the
> manufacturers about these--since I have no experience with outboards.
>
> The other matter I have been considering is the ground tackle issue.
I
> saw
> a picture of a Rhodes with an anchor roller on the bow and have
contacted
> the owner but have no response yet. If any list members have added a
bow
> roller to hold an anchor, I would appreciate knowing what you have
used,
> and
> any pictures you might have. I anchor often (lunch, overnight)in
muddy
> areas and can't imagine leaning over the pulpit dragging up 40 lbs of
> sticky
> anchor with chain and then trying to hang it up on the pulpit or the
> forestay. A roller seems more civilized. On my last boat I also had a
> wash
> down pump to clean the foredeck and anchor. It was an on-demand 12 v
pump
> that drew raw water from the marine head intake hose via a T
connection.
> I
> attached a small hose to a connection on the foredeck when I wanted to
use
> it. This may be overkill for a small sailboat, but it is something I
might
> explore. It did draw quite a bit of battery power...
>
> Again, thanks to all for your welcome and suggestions.
>
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Fuller
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank: Let me add my "welcome" to the chorus.
> I also wanted more advanced warning than the centerboard and went for
> overkill with a forward-looking sonar. At $800, it was a ridiculously
> expensive toy, but I have had as much fun with it as any gadget on the
> boat
> & it is even sometimes genuinely useful in my shoal waters. Stan
mounted
> it
> thru the laz.; so it reads and graphs the depth under the entire boat
and
> 20
> feet forward of the bow. I don't think West Marine handles it
anymore,
> but
> you can probably check out newer models @ www.echopilot.com.
> BobF.
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 13:33:25 -0500 (EST)
From: cjlowe at sssnet.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
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Frank,
Since nobody else is worried about spending your money,I might as well
help you empty your wallet. The pop-top is a must for a overnight,as far
as I'm concerned.The bimini is also very nice,there are atleast two ways
to mount it,one is to permently mount it to the gunnels,like on most
boats. The other way mounts it on sliders that slide on the jib sheet
block "T" track, making it moveable fore and aft the length of the T
track. Mine is on the T track and I enjoy the options it provides.
On the anchoring issue,keep in mind I sail on a small,well protected
lake
with a 10 HP limit,so waves ,wakes and tides aren't an issue. For a
lunch
hook,I use a 8lb folding grapnel,with 100' of rode in a bucket,that I
store in the lazz.For overnight,I use a fortress with 150' of rode,that
is
kept in a Rubbermaid storage container,under the starboard seat,aft.I
almost always throw the anchor over the starboard gunnel just forward of
the stern rail,letting out the wanted scope,but saving at least 30' of
rode,in case I want to walk the rest of the rode forward to attach to
the
bow cleat. On the Rhodes,with the pop -top up,you can coil the rest of
the
rode and walk into the cabin,threading the rode around the shrouds and
lay
the rest of the coil in front of the mast.Then ,if you want to anchor
from
the bow,you can walk forward,with both hands free to hang on to the
shrouds for balence,and then cleat off the rode on the bow. To remove
the
hook,I grab the rubbermaid container from under the seat,walk it thru
the
cabin and set it in front of the mast from inside the cabin then walk
forward around the side of the boat and flake the rode in the container
as
I pull it in.
Jerry Lowe
S/V Country Rhodes '86
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:31:55 -0800 (PST)
From: cowie <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] tarp for winter storage
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My boat is scheduled to come out of the water next week and will rest on
jack
stands at the boat yard until spring. I have taken off the genoa to
store
inside and plan to leave the main sail and rigging in place over the
winter.
Southern Maryland winter weather is not as punishing as might be
encountered
in the more northern climates. I am considering putting a tarp over the
boom to partially protect the cockpit and cabin top. I do not plan to
lower
the mast and am not intending to try and enclose the entire deck, just a
simple tarp tent over the boom with some tie downs to the boat, not the
jack
stands. Does anyone else use this method and are there any suggestions
on
tarp size, how to tie it down? I see in the archives a lot of good
ideas on
pvc frames, entire boat wraps, sunbrella custom covers and discussions
about
tie downs to the trailer. My idea is to leave most of the boat exposed
to
the elements but provide a little protection to the cockpit and cabin
top.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:01:18 -0500
From: "Frank Tugwell" <ftugwell at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
To: "'The Rhodes 22 Email List'" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Thanks, Alice and Lee. I am going to be travelling most of the next
month,
but if we have a reasonably warm weekend day early in January, I will be
in
contact to drop by.
Frank Tugwell
Contact Details:
http://www.franktugwell.tel
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of ALICE WEISZ
Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2009 1:10 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
Frank,
I'm the other Kent Island resident with the Rhodes and control on the
tiller. "BEATS PROZAC" is dry-docked at Lippincott and you're more than
welcomed to stop over there and take a look. Good luck!
Alice Weisz
> Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 09:04:48 -0500
> From: LKUHN at cnmc.org
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank,
>
> We have two Rhodes on Kent Island; one with and one without motor
controls
on the tiller. Mine doesn't have the controls mounted on the tiller and
you're more than welcome to stop buy and give it a try. The Rhodes with
the
tiller-mounted controls is on the hard but I'm sure the owner won't mind
if
you look at the set-up.
>
> Lee
> 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
> Kent Island, MD
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org on behalf of Frank Tugwell
> Sent: Fri 12/4/2009 9:02 PM
> To: 'The Rhodes 22 Email List'
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
>
>
> Many thanks to those of you who responded to my call for advice. I
will
> explore the archives with some care and see what else I can learn. For
now,
> I think the 8 hp 4-stroke motor type that Stan recommended seems
right. As
> does the blue color. And the bimini and the pop-top cover. I also
think I
> can use a depth sounder (beyond the centerboard solution suggested by
Stan).
> I am still concerned about motor controls, and guess I should check
with
the
> manufacturers about these--since I have no experience with outboards.
>
> The other matter I have been considering is the ground tackle issue. I
saw
> a picture of a Rhodes with an anchor roller on the bow and have
contacted
> the owner but have no response yet. If any list members have added a
bow
> roller to hold an anchor, I would appreciate knowing what you have
used,
and
> any pictures you might have. I anchor often (lunch, overnight)in muddy
> areas and can't imagine leaning over the pulpit dragging up 40 lbs of
sticky
> anchor with chain and then trying to hang it up on the pulpit or the
> forestay. A roller seems more civilized. On my last boat I also had a
wash
> down pump to clean the foredeck and anchor. It was an on-demand 12 v
pump
> that drew raw water from the marine head intake hose via a T
connection. I
> attached a small hose to a connection on the foredeck when I wanted to
use
> it. This may be overkill for a small sailboat, but it is something I
might
> explore. It did draw quite a bit of battery power...
>
> Again, thanks to all for your welcome and suggestions.
>
> Frank
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Robert Fuller
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Call for Advice; depth sounder
>
> Frank: Let me add my "welcome" to the chorus.
> I also wanted more advanced warning than the centerboard and went for
> overkill with a forward-looking sonar. At $800, it was a ridiculously
> expensive toy, but I have had as much fun with it as any gadget on the
boat
> & it is even sometimes genuinely useful in my shoal waters. Stan
mounted
it
> thru the laz.; so it reads and graphs the depth under the entire boat
and
20
> feet forward of the bow. I don't think West Marine handles it anymore,
but
> you can probably check out newer models @ www.echopilot.com.
> BobF.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2009 20:27:13 -0500
From: Gregg MacMillan <gjm at techgra.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tarp for winter storage
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On Dec 5, 2009, at 5:31 PM, cowie wrote:
> are there any suggestions on
> tarp size, how to tie it down?
I know this isn't what you're planning to do, but this is how I've
always covered mine. Has always worked well.
(hopefully picture attached)
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:45:42 EST
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
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Chris,
I'm not sure why you are hauling for the winter since the best sailing
weather is usually the winter months. Your climate isn't much different
than
mine in SC and I never haul except for maintenance. I can't see any
benefit
in tarping your cockpit and your tie downs could scratch or damage your
fiberglass when beat around by the wind.
Rummy
In a message dated 12/5/2009 5:32:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ccowie at cowieassociates.com writes:
My boat is scheduled to come out of the water next week and will rest
on
jack
stands at the boat yard until spring. I have taken off the genoa to
store
inside and plan to leave the main sail and rigging in place over the
winter.
Southern Maryland winter weather is not as punishing as might be
encountered
in the more northern climates. I am considering putting a tarp over
the
boom to partially protect the cockpit and cabin top. I do not plan to
lower
the mast and am not intending to try and enclose the entire deck, just
a
simple tarp tent over the boom with some tie downs to the boat, not the
jack
stands. Does anyone else use this method and are there any suggestions
on
tarp size, how to tie it down? I see in the archives a lot of good
ideas
on
pvc frames, entire boat wraps, sunbrella custom covers and discussions
about
tie downs to the trailer. My idea is to leave most of the boat
exposed to
the elements but provide a little protection to the cockpit and cabin
top.
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 05:59:20 EST
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
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Derek,
Welcome to the Rhodes owners list. There is a digital version of the
owners
manual from around the time your hull was built. I'm sure some of the
other members can either send it to you or point you in the direction
where it
can be found..
Three people can easily raise the mast without the crutch and crane that
comes from General boats. I lower and raise my mast towards the bow. I
use
the traveler bar as a trapeze and with two people on the mast it can be
easily raised or lower and kept under control.
That being said, the mast raising system from the factory is the safest
and
easiest method and can be done by one person. You will find that in
many
ways the R22 still handles like a small sail boat, but with many
attributes
only found on larger boats.
Single handing the R22 is a breeze. You will find the hull to be very
forgiving and your learning curve will be very short. If you would tell
us where
you are located or intend to sail, perhaps there is an owner close by
willing to help you out. We have people everywhere.
Rummy
In a message dated 12/5/2009 12:16:37 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ddodson at ebcc.com writes:
Hello, I just purchased a 1985 Rhodes22. I have never sailed before
except
on a small sail boat and so I
know I have a lot of learning to do about rigging and really everything
in
general. My goal is to set up everything on my boat so it can be set up
and
sailed single handed if needed.
I have read several things on the owners page and everyone seems pretty
helpful and has a lot of input and ideas.
I have a few questions that perhaps I could find some help with.
1. I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the hardware
that
I need.
2. My boat does not have the winch or mast support that is built
on
stern of boat that is needed to raise the mast, I am going to attempt
to
build something and would like to hear from others for advice and even
some
pictures.
Looking forward to hearing from everyone.
Derek Dodson
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2009 08:29:53 -0500
From: Mary Lou Troy <mtroy at atlanticbb.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] tarp for winter storage
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Rummy,
Not sure if your comment was tongue in cheek but I suspect there is a
big difference between Chesapeake weather and SC weather.
We get winter gales that blow the water out of the bay and then the
approach of the next one brings higher than usual tides. This can
make for a 3 to 4 foot tidal difference and makes it difficult to
secure a boat in a slip when you are only used to a 2 foot
difference. If you live a distance from your slip you can't always be
checking your lines. We get weeks of frost freeze cycles and often a
week or two a couple of times a year where the temperature is well
below freezing. A few days below 10 degrees. The Bay can freeze over
up here in Rock Hall (it did 3 years ago) and small tributaries can
freeze over further south where Chris is. We can also get snowstorms
that bring up to 12 inches of snow. We haven't had one recently but
there was one in the last 10 years or so.
I'm not sure what you gain by tarping just the cockpit unless you can
do it well enough to keep snow out. Generally leaves aren't a problem
by now. By tarping the whole boat with the mast down, we protect the
sail in the mast, can leave the companionway open for ventilation and
keep water and snow out of the cockpit.
Mary Lou
1991 R22 Fretless
Rock Hall, MD
At 05:45 AM 12/6/2009, you wrote:
>Chris,
>I'm not sure why you are hauling for the winter since the best sailing
>weather is usually the winter months. Your climate isn't much different
than
>mine in SC and I never haul except for maintenance. I can't see any
benefit
>in tarping your cockpit and your tie downs could scratch or damage
your
>fiberglass when beat around by the wind.
>
>Rummy
>
>
>In a message dated 12/5/2009 5:32:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>ccowie at cowieassociates.com writes:
>
>
>My boat is scheduled to come out of the water next week and will rest
on
>jack
>stands at the boat yard until spring. I have taken off the genoa to
store
>inside and plan to leave the main sail and rigging in place over the
>winter.
>Southern Maryland winter weather is not as punishing as might be
>encountered
>in the more northern climates. I am considering putting a tarp over
the
>boom to partially protect the cockpit and cabin top. I do not plan to
>lower
>the mast and am not intending to try and enclose the entire deck, just
a
>simple tarp tent over the boom with some tie downs to the boat, not
the
>jack
>stands. Does anyone else use this method and are there any
suggestions on
>tarp size, how to tie it down? I see in the archives a lot of good
ideas
>on
>pvc frames, entire boat wraps, sunbrella custom covers and discussions
>about
>tie downs to the trailer. My idea is to leave most of the boat
exposed to
>the elements but provide a little protection to the cockpit and cabin
top.
>--
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 06:01:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Greg PA <baywindgroup at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Hello, from new member
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Derek
Congratulations! I was in your same position last February. The people
on
this forum helped me a lot and I got an abandoned 1979 sailing by the
summer
working on her mostly just Saturdays. I have had to re-do all my rigging
and
learned a few hard lessons I would be happy to pass on.
I have the manual, but I believe it is in the FAQ section of the GBI
website.
I have raised my mast several times with just one other person very
easily,
I do not have the winch. We also took it down last month in 18 mph winds
with little difficulty. There are a couple tricks, like tape the stays
to
the mast so they don't kink.
Another trick I learned from doing all this on a budget is I buy my
running
rigging at REI and EMS. Their climbing rope is as good as any marine I
have
seen and is 1/3 the cost. Nicer colors too.
Good Luck, send me an email and I will forward my cell if you want to
talk.
-----
Greg PA
s/v Serenity
79 Rhodes 22
North East MD
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 09:46:10 -0500
From: Gregg MacMillan <gjm at techgra.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22 Manual
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Derek Dodson wrote:
> I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the hardware that
> I need.
Hi Derek--
Attached is a pdf of a recent version of the Rhodes22 manual.
Interesting and entertaining reading.
--Gregg
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T e c h n e G r a p h i c s, I n c.
1 . 8 0 0 . 7 7 1 . 3 1 7 1
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Message: 14
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 2009 10:24:34 -0500
From: Gregg MacMillan <gjm at techgra.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Rhodes22 Manual
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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I guess that was too large (3.4 MB). Here's a link to it.
http://files.me.com/macmillan/jcolub
--Gregg
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On Dec 6, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Gregg MacMillan wrote:
> On Dec 5, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Derek Dodson wrote:
>
>> I am looking for a owner's manual with a list of the hardware that
>> I need.
>
> Hi Derek--
>
> Attached is a pdf of a recent version of the Rhodes22 manual.
> Interesting and entertaining reading.
>
> --Gregg
>
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Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 20:41:22 -0500
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I think I have just about recovered from spending four days a the St Pete
show with Elton. It is doubtful that Elton has yet recovered from sharing
time with me. The team of Spitzer, Quinn and Singerman hopefully inspired
others to join our group of R-22 owners.
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Fair winds,
>>ron<<
S/V Serenity
Gulfport, FL
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 08:05:42 -0500
From: "stan" <stan at rhodes22.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] St Petersburg Boat Show
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my mother thanks you, my father thanks you (both deceased) and most
important, my brother thanks you.
ss
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>I think I have just about recovered from spending four days a the St Pete
> show with Elton. It is doubtful that Elton has yet recovered from sharing
> time with me. The team of Spitzer, Quinn and Singerman hopefully inspired
> others to join our group of R-22 owners.
>
> --
> Fair winds,
>
>>>ron<<
> S/V Serenity
> Gulfport, FL
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Date: Tue, 8 Dec 2009 11:50:40 -0500
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] St Petersburg Boat Show
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Ron,
When you are fully recovered, gives a report on the show if you would
please. Had to be warmer that the 30 degrees it is here! - Rob
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I think I have just about recovered from spending four days a the St Pete
show with Elton. It is doubtful that Elton has yet recovered from sharing
time with me. The team of Spitzer, Quinn and Singerman hopefully inspired
others to join our group of R-22 owners.
--
Fair winds,
>>ron<<
S/V Serenity
Gulfport, FL
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