[Rhodes22-list] Leland a reply about list content...

Brad Haslett flybrad at gmail.com
Sat Jan 3 10:40:57 EST 2009 

Elle,

Your wish is granted!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-DPJ063Iy8&eurl=http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/01/obama_dont_ask_me_no_questions.asp&feature=player_embedded

Now, don't ask me anymore questions.

Brad

On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:30 AM, elle <watermusic38 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brad,
>
> I know I've missed some stuff in the past two weeks or so, so please keep that in mind that I may be repeating what someone else has already said...but the topics are not the problem....
>
> Keep the political stuff coming..esp the YouTube....can the invective...can't leave the party just because of one turd in the punchbowl.....we'll all be sailing again soon enough
>
> elle
>
> We can't change the angle of the wind....but we can adjust our sails.
>
> 1992 Rhodes 22   Recyc '06  "WaterMusic"   (Lady in Red)
>
>
> --- On Fri, 1/2/09, brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> From: brad haslett <flybrad at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Leland a reply about list content...
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 6:28 PM
>> Herb,
>>
>> I've rather enjoyed this family feud. They always
>> happen near the holidays.  Never mind that all these voices
>> who remind us to "love all, serve all" remain
>> ignorant that many of us in real life have family members
>> who are "red and yellow, black and white, they are
>> precious in his sight", yet they feel compelled to
>> preach the party line about harmony.
>>
>> Rummy started this latest feud.  He's the biggest
>> hypocrite of all. I'd like to see this list survive in
>> whatever form, but, this forum as the last refuge of free
>> speech is under attack - if not already dead.  Stan has
>> weighed-in, he seems to like the free speech forum his boat
>> inspired.  But, never mind, others know better what is best
>> for us.
>>
>> Yes indeed, the delete key is too much trouble.  It's
>> so much better to stifle the first amendment through
>> whatever means rather than defend free speech, especially
>> when searching for unbiased news is so much trouble.  Yeah,
>> yeah, I know - you just want to read about one specific
>> sailboat and sailing in general.  Stan (who is Stan?) is
>> just some guy in the plastics business.  Nothing to see
>> here folks!  Keep moving.
>>
>> Brad
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 1/2/09, Herb Parsons
>> <hparsons at parsonsys.com> wrote:
>> From: Herb Parsons <hparsons at parsonsys.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Leland a reply about list
>> content...
>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List"
>> <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>> Date: Friday, January 2, 2009, 4:58 PM
>>
>> Sorry Mary, I disagree.
>>
>> No one's "time" is being taken if they
>> don't read the
>> message. At least,
>> not much. It takes very little time to hit the delete key.
>> The "voice" would only "permeate the
>> list" when someone
>> reads what they
>> wrote. This is NOT speaking. It's reading, and writing.
>> For something on
>> this list to be heard, someone needs to read it.
>>
>> I suspect that through the loss of Bill, you folks will see
>> a lot fewer
>> posts, and most definitely will see fewer answers of
>> substance about
>> sailing questions.
>>
>>
>> Mary Lou Troy wrote:
>> > Ed,
>> > It is not just the newbies saying the tone of the
>> > list has got to change. It is some of us who have
>> > been around here from close to the beginning.
>> >
>> > Politics were once OK. If you had suggested we
>> > ban politics when we switched off of Sailnet I'd
>> > have said it wasn't necessary. Now it seems
>> > politics can't be discussed with belittling the
>> > beliefs of a lot of people. There has been
>> > ugliness and disrespect from both sides the
>> > political fence and some very nasty things said
>> > by some list members about other list members. I
>> > know we always said "bar" but the bar is in
>> sorry
>> > need a bit of regulation when folks are hitting
>> > each other over the head with their political
>> > beliefs. I don't go to a bar to have my time
>> > taken up by some tiresome evangelist who is
>> > constantly telling me or my friends how stupid
>> > they are. Yes I could relegate them to the trash
>> > bin but their voices were still permeating the
>> > list and affecting everybody. Besides even the
>> > most political of our posters have made real
>> > contributions to other topics (including sailing)
>> > I'm not in favor of banning anyone unless they
>> > can't behave themselves in the bar.
>> >
>> > I disagree with you that the old-timers who have
>> > left have left because they were no longer the
>> > center of attention. If I had left last week or
>> > last month it would have been because I was
>> > thoroughly disgusted with the way people were
>> > attacking each others ideas. I know from meeting
>> > a lot of these folks that they are not that way
>> > in person. I like to see the list more reflective
>> > of that. If it takes a ban or moratorium on
>> > political posts or a revision of the charter so
>> > be it or some sort of moderation so be it. I
>> > don't know what will solve the problem. I
>> don't
>> > know that the list will survive this even with
>> > changes. I just know that if it continued the way
>> > it was going I wouldn't be long in following Fred
>> out the door.
>> >
>> > Ed, if you want a party/meeting in Edenton you
>> > have to find someone who thinks its a great idea
>> > to work on it. I think it's a great idea. I might
>> > be able to come or even help but right now I
>> > can't organize it. All of the get-togethers that
>> > we've had have been serendipitous. It takes a
>> > bunch of people thinking it's a great idea at a
>> > time when someone has the time and energy to make
>> > it happen. New blood is always helpful in that
>> > regard. BTW, I don't seem to have the date - I
>> > tried searching the archives but couldn't find it.
>> >
>> > Happy New Year!
>> >
>> > Mary Lou
>> > 1991 R22 Fretless
>> > Rock Hall, MD
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > At 12:20 PM 1/2/2009, you wrote:
>> >
>> >> Lee, Thena's history of this forum is only
>> half
>> >> complete.  The original group moved off the
>> >> Sailnet list for several reasons to include
>> >> extraneous subjects.  On the old list that was
>> >> limited to sailing topics, it was tiring and
>> >> redundant to see post, âEURoeTest to see if list
>> is
>> >> workingâEUR?.  One of the chief culprits of those
>>
>> >> posts is still making music. The Political stuff
>> >> was instigated by a reader from North
>> >> Carolina.  I suspect that he did so just to
>> >> agitate the congregation.  And he still does it,
>> >> just not as much. We had one member who got to
>> >> using foul language so much that he was
>> >> excommunicated.  What has appeared on the Rhodes
>> >> List for the past few months happened four and
>> >> eight years ago.  The original congregation said
>> >> barroom not living room.  Now we have new
>> >> congregants who bought the house next to the
>> >> airport runway wanting the airplanes to go
>> >> away.  I would suggest that a couple of old
>> >> timers have left because they are no longer the
>> >> center of the party.  No body was stroking their
>> >> egos anymore, but rather confronting them.  Mary
>> >> Lou suggested the Chesapeake Rhodies were due
>> >> for a party.  It has been suggested in the past,
>> >> but nothing ever done about meeting in
>> >> Edenton.  In a few weeks there will be another
>> >> birthday that would be appropriate for a winter
>> >> wingding.  The airport is right across the
>> >> street from General Boats. Those guys with
>> >> airplanes could even fly in!  Mary Lou should
>> >> have the date somewhere? My two cents worth, Ed
>> >> K See if this attachment comes thru...
>> >>
>> http://www.nabble.com/file/p21254293/combo%25235.exe
>> >> combo%235.exe Or this one from 2001:
>> >> http://www.nabble.com/file/p21254293/day_o.mp3
>> >> day_o.mp3 -- View this message in context:
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>> http://www.nabble.com/Leland-a-reply-about-list-content...-tp21254293p21254293.html
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