[Rhodes22-list] Manasquan Inlet
loumoore at aol.com
loumoore at aol.com
Mon Jul 27 09:37:24 EDT 2009
Dear Rhodies:
Wanted to ask a question about Manasquan Inlet in New Jersey.
Has anyone left the inlet?? I plan on doing so at high tide and ride the current but I have heard it is still a difficult inlet.? Wanted to get your thoughts and advice.
Thanks,
Lou Moore
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1. Transom crutch, Stepping, Camping (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
2. Re: Looking to purchase a used Rhodes 22 (DonKokko Burnaby)
3. Re: Looking to purchase a used Rhodes 22 (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
4. Re: Transom crutch, Stepping, Camping (bill davidge)
5. Re: magazine article about Rhodes 22 (Leland)
6. Re: Boat Tunes! (Lowe, Rob)
7. Check out SolidNav :: The first alternative for everyone
(R22RumRunner at aol.com)
8. Check out SolidNav :: The first alternative for everyone
(Joe Babb)
9. Re: Check out SolidNav :: The first alternative for everyone
(Hank)
10. Re: Check out SolidNav :: The first alternative foreveryone
(Lowe, Rob)
11. Re: Check out SolidNav :: The first alternative for everyone
(Rick)
12. Boom Vang for Mast Stepping (Arthur H. Czerwonky)
13. Re: Check out SolidNav :: The first alternative foreveryone
(Arthur H. Czerwonky)
14. Re: Check out SolidNav :: The first alternativeforeveryone
(Lowe, Rob)
15. Re: Check out SolidNav :: The first alternativeforeveryone
(Arthur H. Czerwonky)
16. Re: Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst alternativeforeveryone
(Ron Singerman)
17. Re: Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst alternativeforeveryone
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18. Re: Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst alternativeforeveryone (Rick)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:27:42 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Transom crutch, Stepping, Camping
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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All,
A few years ago I described my method of using a stern/transom crutch which has
since worked well for me. In view of recent posts about the Rhodes 22 Camper, I
thought I would take a picture to illustrate the concept, which you may be able
to employ in some fashion. It is attached for you to see.
I mount this rig on top of the transom, fastened both to the boat and backup
stability from lashing to the stern rail. Just a little insurance. The bottom
tube can easily be extended so as to match the stub height at the mast step, the
other end of the mast support while camping. Anything to keep it solid and
simple. Even though cradled in the 'V', a few turns of 3/8" line is prudent as
the center urethane wheel torns freely. The free turning wheel is the feature I
use in geriatric stepping, but needs a brake in this application.
I hope this can be of value to some skippers.
Salud,
Art
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:52:23 -0700
From: DonKokko Burnaby <dkburn at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking to purchase a used Rhodes 22
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Hi Rummy,
I am in Seattle, Washington... but I'm open to considering a Rhodes 22
for sale in any location at my price point, as it is pretty hard to find, it
seems! Really glad to see that there is such an active community here...
hoping to be able join the ranks of the Rhodes owners soon! :)
~DK
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:05:52 EDT
From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking to purchase a used Rhodes 22
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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DK,
What part of the country do you call home?
Rummy
In a message dated 7/21/2009 6:01:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dkburn at gmail.com writes:
Hello all,
I just joined this list and hoping that it is still alive and well, as I
have quickly become a fan of the Rhodes 22 and am now hunting for one to
purchase. I'm looking for a used Rhodes 22 under $10k (really targeting
around $6k if possible) with trailer. If anyone knows of one for sale, I'd
really appreciate the contact. You can reach me directly at
dkburn at gmail.com
Thanks!
DK Burnaby
dkburn at gmail.com
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:20:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking to purchase a used Rhodes 22
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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DK,
We will certainly welcome you as a new skipper, when you find a boat, a might
scarce, as you have noticed. You will probably get a reply from Dave Bradley,
who is in the Seattle area also. Not a finer boat on the water. The boats are
reasonably available as recycles from GB, and although more expensive, are
already outfittted and well renewed. Like any investment, no ROI without the
'I'.
Holler at any of us as we can help you get started.
R,
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: DonKokko Burnaby <dkburn at gmail.com>
>Sent: Jul 22, 2009 12:52 PM
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking to purchase a used Rhodes 22
>
>Hi Rummy,
>
> I am in Seattle, Washington... but I'm open to considering a Rhodes 22
>for sale in any location at my price point, as it is pretty hard to find, it
>seems! Really glad to see that there is such an active community here...
>hoping to be able join the ranks of the Rhodes owners soon! :)
>
>~DK
>
>---------------------------
>Message: 7
>Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 08:05:52 EDT
>From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Looking to purchase a used Rhodes 22
>To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>Message-ID: <cd0.45f7d6a6.37985aa0 at aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
>DK,
>What part of the country do you call home?
>
>Rummy
>
>
>In a message dated 7/21/2009 6:01:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>dkburn at gmail.com writes:
>
>Hello all,
>
>I just joined this list and hoping that it is still alive and well, as I
>have quickly become a fan of the Rhodes 22 and am now hunting for one to
>purchase. I'm looking for a used Rhodes 22 under $10k (really targeting
>around $6k if possible) with trailer. If anyone knows of one for sale, I'd
>really appreciate the contact. You can reach me directly at
>dkburn at gmail.com
>
>Thanks!
>DK Burnaby
>dkburn at gmail.com
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:42:49 -0400
From: bill davidge <wpdavidge at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Transom crutch, Stepping, Camping
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Art
What attachment ?
Bill
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 12:27 PM, Arthur H.
Czerwonky<czerwonky at earthlink.net> wrote:
> All,
>
> A few years ago I described my method of using a stern/transom crutch which
has since worked well for me. ?In view of recent posts about the Rhodes 22
Camper, I thought I would take a picture to illustrate the concept, which you
may be able to employ in some fashion. ?It is attached for you to see.
>
> I mount this rig on top of the transom, fastened both to the boat and backup
stability from lashing to the stern rail. ?Just a little insurance. ?The bottom
tube can easily be extended so as to match the stub height at the mast step, the
other end of the mast support while camping. ?Anything to keep it solid and
simple. ?Even though cradled in the 'V', a few turns of 3/8" line is prudent as
the center urethane wheel torns freely. ?The free turning wheel is the feature I
use in geriatric stepping, but needs a brake in this application.
>
> I hope this can be of value to some skippers.
>
> Salud,
>
> Art
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:06:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] magazine article about Rhodes 22
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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Just got this email from a high school friend. He's kind of like Stan in
that he only sells one boat, although with the Euro exchange rate it's now a
little over a million dollars. Nice to hear that a yacht saleman can
appreciate quality no matter what size it comes in.
_____________________________________________________
...You still have your Rhodes? Interesting article on one in this months
SAILING ( not SAIL ) magazine. Always thought it the perfect family day boat
and just big enough for overnight adult?
All the best,
Joel
Joel F. Potter - Cruising Yacht Specialist, LLC
Amel's Sole Associate for the Americas
Mailing Address: 401 East Las Olas Boulevard #130-126
Fort Lauderdale, Florida 33301
Phone: (954) 462-5869 Fax: (954) 462-3923
Email: jfpottercys at att.net
_____________________________________________________
As of Monday, Barnes & Noble and Borders still don't have the August issue
yet. Can't wait to read it.
Lee
1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
Kent Island, MD
jlock wrote:
>
> Just got my issue yesterday and opened it now to read the article.
> Nice article and good photos. It was mostly about the trip with only
> a little about the Rhodes itself. But there were gems like - "a
> perfect daysailing cockpit so roomy it puts many 40-footers to shame"
> and - "...a veritable Swiss army Knife of features... " Stan, you
> done good!
>
> The most curious event was right at the end. Near the end of their
> trip, in calm seas, the tiller broke off in the helmsman hand! How
> does a tiller just break off? That's a pretty stout hunk of wood!
> Must have been some rot in the tiller head for some time.
>
> Cheers!
> John Lock
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> s/v Pandion - '79 Rhodes 22
> Lake Sinclair, GA
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> On Jul 16, 2009, at 08:07, Joe Babb wrote:
>> Check out the August issue of "Sailing" on page 52. There's an
>> article
>> about the Rhodes 22 and some nice pictures.
>> Joe
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:32:50 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tunes!
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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I think our boat tunes will be Jimmy Buffett, Dave Mathews, Springsteen,
and probably some Neil Young. And times for silence, of course. Nice
having them on board. - rob
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Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 11:38 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boat Tunes!
Finally got tunes on the boat! Sure makes a difference. I followed
Rummy's suggestion and mounted the speakers in the front of the laz.
Great place as the sound is dispersed and fills the whole boat with
music. I got a "marine grade" unit with speakers made by Dual that West
Marine was selling early in the spring for $99. Great to jam to some
Dave Mathews and Jimmy Buffett while cruising down the lake. - rob
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:45:32 EDT
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 08:56:45 -0400
From: Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first alternative
for everyone
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Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V and
150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
battery bank to power this thing!!
Joe
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:24:19 -0400
From: Hank <hnw555 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
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To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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And according to their data is equivalaent to a 4-6hp 4-stroke so same
weight for engine, massive battery bank and less power.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net> wrote:
> Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V and
> 150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
> Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
> battery bank to power this thing!!
> Joe
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:06:36 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
alternative foreveryone
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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A guy on our lake has a 16 foot Precision powered by a Torqeedo Travel.
He says he loves it and can get two hours out of a charge. Just carries
the battery pack back and forth from home.
http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/products/travel.html
- Rob
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Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:24 AM
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foreveryone
And according to their data is equivalaent to a 4-6hp 4-stroke so same
weight for engine, massive battery bank and less power.
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net> wrote:
> Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V and
> 150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
> Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
> battery bank to power this thing!!
> Joe
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:19:42 -0400
From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
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Rummy,
With only an equivalent 4-6 hp to a gasoline outboard, I would only trust it
in very protected inland waters without currents.
Rick
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:45 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
> _Click here: SolidNav :: The first alternative for everyone_
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:26:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: [Rhodes22-list] Boom Vang for Mast Stepping
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
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All,
Since long before I could spell Rhodes 22 I have used either a boom vang or main
sheet blocks with a gin pole to step and unstep the mast. It was a heavy task
with a conventional mast, moreso with an IMF, although very do-able. I think Ed
K used and recommended the same setup, not sure. We already have the MA of the
main sheet rig, what about getting better than 3:1 or 4:1 ratio? I am going to
try the Harken recommended vang setup described on www.harken.com/rigtips/vang.php
and report if anyone is interested. The setup is 8:1 Cascaded Fiddle, the
second diagram on the right side. Doesn't really look more complicated, another
block and some additional line. Thoughts?
Some months ago I trialed two triple blocks in order to get 6:1 MA and found it
was no practical advantage over what I use now. I was using 3/8" line, maybe
more friendly with 5/16.
This may be helpful for other poor Rhoadies out there. Post me off-list if you
prefer not being a dart board.
The canvas guy,
Art
s/v Mary Jane
Atlanta/St Pete
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:29:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
alternative foreveryone
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Rob,
Hope you had a good sail yesterday.
How hefty is his battery pack?
The price on these electrics is a mite hefty.
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>Sent: Jul 23, 2009 10:06 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first alternative
foreveryone
>
>A guy on our lake has a 16 foot Precision powered by a Torqeedo Travel.
>He says he loves it and can get two hours out of a charge. Just carries
>the battery pack back and forth from home.
>
>http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/products/travel.html
>
>- Rob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:24 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first alternative
>foreveryone
>
>And according to their data is equivalaent to a 4-6hp 4-stroke so same
>weight for engine, massive battery bank and less power.
>
>On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V and
>> 150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
>> Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
>> battery bank to power this thing!!
>> Joe
>> __________________________________________________
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>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
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>>
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Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:39:21 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
alternativeforeveryone
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Art,
Agreed, price a bit hefty. You know, I'm going to have to check this
out a bit more. I was just speaking to him on the water as we cruised
around last night. I'll discuss this with him next time I see him and
get back with you.
Sailing was weak, no wind. But Wednesday nights is "Beer Can Regatta"
nights (excuse to cruise around in a group, drink some cold barley pop,
and have water fights when appropriate). More of a social event, and
for that, the evening was excellent. - Rob
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H.
Czerwonky
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:29 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
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Rob,
Hope you had a good sail yesterday.
How hefty is his battery pack?
The price on these electrics is a mite hefty.
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>Sent: Jul 23, 2009 10:06 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
alternative foreveryone
>
>A guy on our lake has a 16 foot Precision powered by a Torqeedo Travel.
>He says he loves it and can get two hours out of a charge. Just
carries
>the battery pack back and forth from home.
>
>http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/products/travel.html
>
>- Rob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:24 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
alternative
>foreveryone
>
>And according to their data is equivalaent to a 4-6hp 4-stroke so same
>weight for engine, massive battery bank and less power.
>
>On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V
and
>> 150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
>> Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
>> battery bank to power this thing!!
>> Joe
>> __________________________________________________
>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go
to
>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>> __________________________________________________
>>
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:45:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Arthur H. Czerwonky" <czerwonky at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
alternativeforeveryone
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Rob,
Sounds like good sport to me...
I have started using a water pump for washdowns on the water - marinas are
getting really sensitive about fresh water use. It is also a dependable backup
in a water fight - throws water about 15 feet. Now, that's real ACTION!
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>Sent: Jul 23, 2009 10:39 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
alternativeforeveryone
>
>Art,
>Agreed, price a bit hefty. You know, I'm going to have to check this
>out a bit more. I was just speaking to him on the water as we cruised
>around last night. I'll discuss this with him next time I see him and
>get back with you.
>
>Sailing was weak, no wind. But Wednesday nights is "Beer Can Regatta"
>nights (excuse to cruise around in a group, drink some cold barley pop,
>and have water fights when appropriate). More of a social event, and
>for that, the evening was excellent. - Rob
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H.
>Czerwonky
>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:29 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
>alternativeforeveryone
>
>Rob,
>
>Hope you had a good sail yesterday.
>
>How hefty is his battery pack?
>
>The price on these electrics is a mite hefty.
>
>Art
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>Sent: Jul 23, 2009 10:06 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
>alternative foreveryone
>>
>>A guy on our lake has a 16 foot Precision powered by a Torqeedo Travel.
>>He says he loves it and can get two hours out of a charge. Just
>carries
>>the battery pack back and forth from home.
>>
>>http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/products/travel.html
>>
>>- Rob
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
>>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:24 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
>alternative
>>foreveryone
>>
>>And according to their data is equivalaent to a 4-6hp 4-stroke so same
>>weight for engine, massive battery bank and less power.
>>
>>On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V
>and
>>> 150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
>>> Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
>>> battery bank to power this thing!!
>>> Joe
>>> __________________________________________________
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>to
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:55:19 -0400
From: "Ron Singerman" <sail at tds.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst
alternativeforeveryone
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Message-ID: <CA3622C3E8B6425AB7EF31A06FD72F52 at computer>
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If you want to see a real neat electric motor installation, for sail boats,
check out www.re-e-power.com . IMO the main drawback, other than the
price, is the weight of the batteries. Another Rhodes owner on the site led
me to this and if he wants to jump in, he is much more knowledgeable than I
am.
>>ron<<
S/V Serenity
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst
alternativeforeveryone
> Art,
> Agreed, price a bit hefty. You know, I'm going to have to check this
> out a bit more. I was just speaking to him on the water as we cruised
> around last night. I'll discuss this with him next time I see him and
> get back with you.
>
> Sailing was weak, no wind. But Wednesday nights is "Beer Can Regatta"
> nights (excuse to cruise around in a group, drink some cold barley pop,
> and have water fights when appropriate). More of a social event, and
> for that, the evening was excellent. - Rob
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H.
> Czerwonky
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:29 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> alternativeforeveryone
>
> Rob,
>
> Hope you had a good sail yesterday.
>
> How hefty is his battery pack?
>
> The price on these electrics is a mite hefty.
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>Sent: Jul 23, 2009 10:06 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> alternative foreveryone
>>
>>A guy on our lake has a 16 foot Precision powered by a Torqeedo Travel.
>>He says he loves it and can get two hours out of a charge. Just
> carries
>>the battery pack back and forth from home.
>>
>>http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/products/travel.html
>>
>>- Rob
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
>>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:24 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> alternative
>>foreveryone
>>
>>And according to their data is equivalaent to a 4-6hp 4-stroke so same
>>weight for engine, massive battery bank and less power.
>>
>>On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V
> and
>>> 150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
>>> Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
>>> battery bank to power this thing!!
>>> Joe
>>> __________________________________________________
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> to
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>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:58:51 -0400
From: "Ron Singerman" <sail at tds.net>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst
alternativeforeveryone
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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The model I was referring to is the E-pod 2000, not the outboard model.
>>ron<<
S/V Serenity
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst
alternativeforeveryone
> Art,
> Agreed, price a bit hefty. You know, I'm going to have to check this
> out a bit more. I was just speaking to him on the water as we cruised
> around last night. I'll discuss this with him next time I see him and
> get back with you.
>
> Sailing was weak, no wind. But Wednesday nights is "Beer Can Regatta"
> nights (excuse to cruise around in a group, drink some cold barley pop,
> and have water fights when appropriate). More of a social event, and
> for that, the evening was excellent. - Rob
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H.
> Czerwonky
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:29 AM
> To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> alternativeforeveryone
>
> Rob,
>
> Hope you had a good sail yesterday.
>
> How hefty is his battery pack?
>
> The price on these electrics is a mite hefty.
>
> Art
>
> -----Original Message-----
>>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>>Sent: Jul 23, 2009 10:06 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> alternative foreveryone
>>
>>A guy on our lake has a 16 foot Precision powered by a Torqeedo Travel.
>>He says he loves it and can get two hours out of a charge. Just
> carries
>>the battery pack back and forth from home.
>>
>>http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/products/travel.html
>>
>>- Rob
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
>>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:24 AM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> alternative
>>foreveryone
>>
>>And according to their data is equivalaent to a 4-6hp 4-stroke so same
>>weight for engine, massive battery bank and less power.
>>
>>On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V
> and
>>> 150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
>>> Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
>>> battery bank to power this thing!!
>>> Joe
>>> __________________________________________________
>>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go
> to
>>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
>>> __________________________________________________
>>>
>>__________________________________________________
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Message: 18
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:24:20 -0400
From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst
alternativeforeveryone
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Ron,
Wow, the right power on the right lake! I think the batteries would
actually be an advantage for sailing performance since weight would
transfer from the transom (outboard) forward (batteries).
Rick
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Ron Singerman <sail at tds.net> wrote:
> If you want to see a real neat electric motor installation, for sail boats,
> check out www.re-e-power.com . IMO the main drawback, other than the
> price, is the weight of the batteries. Another Rhodes owner on the site
> led
> me to this and if he wants to jump in, he is much more knowledgeable than I
> am.
>
> >>ron<<
> S/V Serenity
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst
> alternativeforeveryone
>
>
> > Art,
> > Agreed, price a bit hefty. You know, I'm going to have to check this
> > out a bit more. I was just speaking to him on the water as we cruised
> > around last night. I'll discuss this with him next time I see him and
> > get back with you.
> >
> > Sailing was weak, no wind. But Wednesday nights is "Beer Can Regatta"
> > nights (excuse to cruise around in a group, drink some cold barley pop,
> > and have water fights when appropriate). More of a social event, and
> > for that, the evening was excellent. - Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H.
> > Czerwonky
> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:29 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> > alternativeforeveryone
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > Hope you had a good sail yesterday.
> >
> > How hefty is his battery pack?
> >
> > The price on these electrics is a mite hefty.
> >
> > Art
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> >>Sent: Jul 23, 2009 10:06 AM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> > alternative foreveryone
> >>
> >>A guy on our lake has a 16 foot Precision powered by a Torqeedo Travel.
> >>He says he loves it and can get two hours out of a charge. Just
> > carries
> >>the battery pack back and forth from home.
> >>
> >>http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/products/travel.html
> >>
> >>- Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:24 AM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> > alternative
> >>foreveryone
> >>
> >>And according to their data is equivalaent to a 4-6hp 4-stroke so same
> >>weight for engine, massive battery bank and less power.
> >>
> >>On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V
> > and
> >>> 150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
> >>> Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
> >>> battery bank to power this thing!!
> >>> Joe
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go
> > to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>__________________________________________________
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> >>
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Message: 19
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:44:22 -0400
From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav ::
Thefirstalternativeforeveryone
To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
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Don't know if anyone gets Sail Magazine, but they have had a couple of
articles on the trials or repowering a diesel driven boat with electric
hybrid propulsion. Too big for our boats, but it's interesting to see
if things will progress this way.
http://sailmagazine.com/boatworks/engines-and-systems/power_generation_s
torage/
- Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:24 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav ::
Thefirstalternativeforeveryone
Ron,
Wow, the right power on the right lake! I think the batteries would
actually be an advantage for sailing performance since weight would
transfer from the transom (outboard) forward (batteries).
Rick
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Ron Singerman <sail at tds.net> wrote:
> If you want to see a real neat electric motor installation, for sail
boats,
> check out www.re-e-power.com . IMO the main drawback, other than the
> price, is the weight of the batteries. Another Rhodes owner on the
site
> led
> me to this and if he wants to jump in, he is much more knowledgeable
than I
> am.
>
> >>ron<<
> S/V Serenity
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:39 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: Thefirst
> alternativeforeveryone
>
>
> > Art,
> > Agreed, price a bit hefty. You know, I'm going to have to check
this
> > out a bit more. I was just speaking to him on the water as we
cruised
> > around last night. I'll discuss this with him next time I see him
and
> > get back with you.
> >
> > Sailing was weak, no wind. But Wednesday nights is "Beer Can
Regatta"
> > nights (excuse to cruise around in a group, drink some cold barley
pop,
> > and have water fights when appropriate). More of a social event,
and
> > for that, the evening was excellent. - Rob
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> > [mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H.
> > Czerwonky
> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:29 AM
> > To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> > Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> > alternativeforeveryone
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > Hope you had a good sail yesterday.
> >
> > How hefty is his battery pack?
> >
> > The price on these electrics is a mite hefty.
> >
> > Art
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
> >>Sent: Jul 23, 2009 10:06 AM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> > alternative foreveryone
> >>
> >>A guy on our lake has a 16 foot Precision powered by a Torqeedo
Travel.
> >>He says he loves it and can get two hours out of a charge. Just
> > carries
> >>the battery pack back and forth from home.
> >>
> >>http://www.torqeedo.com/us/hn/products/travel.html
> >>
> >>- Rob
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
> >>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Hank
> >>Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:24 AM
> >>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
> >>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Check out SolidNav :: The first
> > alternative
> >>foreveryone
> >>
> >>And according to their data is equivalaent to a 4-6hp 4-stroke so
same
> >>weight for engine, massive battery bank and less power.
> >>
> >>On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Joe Babb <joe.babb at comcast.net>
wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well, it's interesting that somebody came up with this, but at 48V
> > and
> >>> 150A I doubt many will find it an alternative.
> >>> Weighs the same as an 8 or 9.9. You'll have to have one hell of a
> >>> battery bank to power this thing!!
> >>> Joe
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>> To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list
go
> > to
> >>> http://www.rhodes22.org/list
> >>> __________________________________________________
> >>>
> >>__________________________________________________
> >>To subscribe/unsubscribe or for help with using the mailing list go
to
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> >>
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