[Rhodes22-list] Re design of Rhodes Interior and elimination of compressi...

[michael meltzer]

My advice would be hand tight only, i.e. use a tool to keep the wire from
turning but only tighten the turn buckle by hand, when you go out, going to
windward retighten the lee side to lose but not floppy, after a couple of
tacks you are all set(if a low wind day might have to be redone on a higher
wind day), with the nine stay you CAN drive the mast thought the roof.

-mjm

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Having no experience with the loos gauge puts me at a disadvantage. I can  
tell you that my method of testing is done by touch. My stays are taught, 
but  not tight. I test each of them until I think they are all about the
same, 
being  careful not to over tighten. I start with each turn buckle at the 
same point and  then I and another person count rotations making sure they
are 
the same. I  repeat this with each one. My leeward stays are always loose 
when the sails are  filled. That's the way they are supposed to be.
Roger was a wonderful resource on this list, but please keep in mind that  
he is an engineer. My experience with engineers, including Roger, is that 
they  have an extreme tendency to over think things and make them much more 
difficult  than they need be. 
I would be concerned about the crack that has widened. The crack tells me  
that at one time the stays were to tight otherwise the crack never would 
have  appeared. Keep in mind the geometry of the deck and hull and how they
all 
work  together. 
Good luck and I'm envious that you are out sailing and I'm waiting for  
paint to dry. 
 
Rummy
 
 
In a message dated 6/2/2009 9:57:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
jsbudda at verizon.net writes:


Rummy,

Glad to see you have a lake with water and a  shinny new boat to play with
(nice color) hope the weather cooperates.  
The loos gauge applies a transverse tension on the wire being tested.  The
wire is pulled with a set amount of force and the amount of deflection  is
measured on a scale which translates to lbs of force. I take the  accuracy 
of
those numbers with a teaspoon of salt but to obtain the same  number on all
four baby stays and the 2 side stays indicate balanced  tension throughout
the rigging system. I order to get a consistent reading  you must try to
measure each wire at the same point on its length as close  to the center
point as can be safely reached by standing on the  deck.

John Shulick



R22RumRunner wrote:
> 
>  John,
> Your numbers from the loos gauge mean absolutely nothing to me,  but your 
 
> comment about a 1000 pounds of pressure on the mast  support troubles me. 
> Anyone  else have any thoughts or  experience with the loos gauge?
>  
> Rummy
>   
>  
> In a message dated 6/1/2009 11:01:33 P.M. Eastern  Daylight Time,  
> jsbudda at verizon.net writes:
> 
>  
> Hi  all,
> 
> The boat has been in the water for  three weeks now and the rigging  has
> bin
> tightened  gradually to what I consider normal. In that time the  boat has
>  been hit by several cold fronts sweeping through the area with  winds  of
> 30
> mph with gusts to 50. I've been out sailing (10 to 15  with  gusts) 
trying 
> out
> my new mainsail from sailcare.  and can report no problems  aside from 
> getting
> used to  some squeaks and groans as the 34 year old cabin  adjusts to the
>  new
> load. The interior picture shows the arch under a mast  load  of approx
> 1000
> lbs.   
> 120 on the baby stays  and 240 on  the side stays as measured on the loos
> gage.
>  
> John  Shulick
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