[Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble

BenCittadino bencittadino at gmail.com
Thu Jun 18 13:32:13 EDT 2009


Elle;

Your enthusiasm is infectious (I mean that in a good way). Unfortunately,
"Quick" is not possible this summer. I have a number of committments that
will keep my sailing adventures to a few hours here and there 'til a least
Sept. Maybe someday though.

One thing I'm committed to is a fun one. I will help crew a friend's Hans
Christian Ketch from Annapolis to  Keyport here in NJ. I'll be the rookie
but maybe not so much by the time we get done.

Fair Winds;

BenCittadino

 

Lady in Red wrote:
> 
> Ben,
> I am ON! ....(but we gotta be quick!)
>  Get me a fearless pilot & we've got the shot! 
> (Do you think they'll let us have our computers in Gitmo?)
> 
> elle
> 
> Beer is good....people are crazy
> 
> 1992 Rhodes 22    Recycled '06"Watermusic"  {Lady in Red}
> 
> --- On Sun, 6/14/09, BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 4:53 PM
> 
> 
> Frone;
> 
> Precisely 12 nautical miles from my slip to the Verrazano Narrows Bridge
> and
> 4.6 NM from there to Lady Liberty herself. Perhaps some day soon with a
> fearless crew...... (it is a bit crowded).
> 
> We could even plan a "fly-by" with Elle to take a postcard shot of my
> rhodes
> with the Lady in the background. Can't get too close (security area) but
> pretty close. Can't get in any more trouble than Air Force One, right?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ben
> 
> FCrawford0707 wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  Ben - surely no offense about questioning my name - happens often, as
you
>> can imagine. ? And thanks for your location.? We have not been to that
>> part of the NJ shore, but it must be temptingly close to a trip to NY
>> Harbor.? Regards, Frone
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:58 am
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> Frone;
>> 
>> Thanks for the history on your boat and the name. Sorry I questioned your
>> given name; if I had checked the archives I would have seen that you are
>> in
>> fact Frone, and it was not a typo. I once got in a little trouble on this
>> very list in assuming a name to be male when it was female; I ought to
>> just
>> take people at their word.
>> 
>> Anyway it sounds like you live near your boat, at least in the summer,
>> which
>> I envy. I live in Princeton year-round and the boat is an hour (or more)
>> away in Highlands. The Marina is Sandy Hook Bay Marina, slip B-43. An LBI
>> sail does sound doable someday. Let's let that percolate.
>> 
>> Please let me know if you ever plan to be up this way.
>> 
>> BenCittadino
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> FCrawford0707 wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  Ben - We purchased Sunday Morning from GB in '94 and spent a lot of
time
>>> chewing over possible names.? (I'm a bird-watcher, so I ran a bunch of
>>> such names up the flagpole ( Osprey, Willet, etc. ) but Andy, my wife,?
>>> wasn't sold.)? We chose Sunday Morning in the end primarily because we
>>> thought it sounded pretty nice out loud - who can account for taste
>>> ?!!??
>>> I see that you are a North Jersey guy - I have from time to time thought
>>> that the NJ Rhodies should work on a Chessie - style rendezvous - maybe
>>> somewhere along LBI, as it is roughly in the middle ( we are in Avalon
>>> and
>>> we sometimes cross paths with a Rhodie from Sea Isle and another from
>>> Stone Harbor - don't know who they are, tho').? Maybe Jay can entice us
>>> to
>>> LBI sometime.? 
>>> ?????? Frone (not a typo) Crawford
>>> ?????? s/v Sunday Morning
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:19 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks Folks;
>>> 
>>> I actually think the engine may be flopping around too much back there.
>>> We'll see. Art came up with an idea that I think may help with the
>>> stalling
>>> out issue. The gas cap/vent may be plugged/too tight causing a vacuum to
>>> build up in the tank. I like that explanation as it fits the facts
>>> (smooth
>>> operation, stall, and easy restart), and is CHEAP to fix. 
>>> 
>>> Frone (is that right, or a typo?) I like your boat name. Is that "Sunday
>>> Morning" as in "Easy like a...", or as in Charles Osgood (my wife works
>>> for
>>> CBS), or something else?
>>> 
>>> Ben
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ron Singerman-2 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ben,
>>>> 
>>>> After you get the cover repaired  ( I second Dave's repair method) you
>>>> might 
>>>> want to make sure that the tension adjustment for the movement of the
>>>> motor 
>>>> is not to tight. It sounds like this might have been the culprit.  I
>>>> also 
>>>> agree that the only time I use my tiller to motor hook-up is when I am 
>>>> backing out of my slip and exiting the marina and when returning, in
>>>> the 
>>>> marina.
>>>> 
>>>> Fair winds,
>>>> 
>>>>>>ron<<
>>>> S/V Serenity
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ben, unless it's a major crack, I would think it's easier to repair
>>>> the cover (assuming yours is fiberglass like mine) than to buy a new
>>>> cover and mount the bracket for the steering mechanism.  I would epoxy
>>>> it from inside, taping the outside to be sure the epoxy doesn't leak
>>>> through.  If it's a major crack you could reinforce it with fiberglass
>>>> cloth inside.  All available at West Marine or another marine supply
>>>> place, along with free advice on which materials to buy.  Others on
>>>> the list can be more prescriptive, I'm sure.
>>>> 
>>>> While you're messing with the steering attahment, be sure all the nuts
>>>> and bolts are secure.  My mechanishm fell apart one day at a crucial
>>>> moment just from a nut working its way loose.  It wasn't pretty.
>>>> 
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> 
>>>> Dave
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks John and Dave for the really quick and eminently sensible
>>>>> replies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave, I'm afraid the answer to your question is that the cover is
>>>>> cracked
>>>>> and I should probably replace (can I?) or repair (dare I?) it. I'm 
>>>>> concerned
>>>>> about whether I can relocate the little attachment "dohicky" on top of
>>>>> a 
>>>>> new
>>>>> cover for the bar connecting the tiller to the engine, but also don't
>>>>> know
>>>>> if a repair of the cover is even possible. I like your idea of only
>>>>> using
>>>>> the connection for really tight quarters. If I ever get it fixed
>>>>> that's 
>>>>> what
>>>>> I'll do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David Bradley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben, it sounds like a similar problem I had my first year with my
>>>>>> Yamaha 9.9. I finally had to bite the bullet and have a good mechanic
>>>>>> clean the jets. You might luck out by using fresh gas (one mechanic
>>>>>> told me this year that with the new ethanol mix we should use fresh
>>>>>> gas every week) and just running the motor until the clean gas
>>>>>> dissolves the crud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I only use the tiller-motor linkage in the marina for tight turns and
>>>>>> damage avoidance. The boat steers much easier with the motor locked -
>>>>>> much less strain on everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying your engine case has actually cracked, or you're
>>>>>> worried it might?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the S/V Susan Kay (93R-recycled08) is in the water for the next 4
>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>> after a winter in a cradle. She started right up and ran
>>>>>>> magnificently
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> about a half an hour as we motored the few miles out the Shrewsbury 
>>>>>>> River
>>>>>>> (NJ) around to Sandy Hook Bay where she has a slip. However, as we
>>>>>>> cruised
>>>>>>> along at medium to low power (fog & rain) the four stroke 9.9 Yamaha
>>>>>>> began
>>>>>>> to die, fought alittle to keep running and quit. Attempt to restart
>>>>>>> (electrical) immediately succeeded, and she ran beautifully for ten
>>>>>>> minutes
>>>>>>> then sputtered and quit again. She restarted on the first push of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> button, but died once more before we got her safely tied up in her
>>>>>>> slip.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> at a loss except to say the gas was from last summer with plenty of
>>>>>>> Stay-bil. The engine had an oil change and was prepped by the marina
>>>>>>> where I
>>>>>>> stored her over the winter. They weren't worried about the gas (I 
>>>>>>> asked).
>>>>>>> Why would she start like a champ, purr like a kitten, then sputter
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> die
>>>>>>> only to restart immediately?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also becoming concerned about the engine cover cracking some as
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> appears the attachment to the tiller is stressing the cover (I'm
>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be gentle). I'm considering locking the engine along the centerline
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> steering with the rudder alone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a rookie sailor I must say I get a small charge out of the bridge
>>>>>>> tender
>>>>>>> answering my call on channel 13 by calling me "Captain", but I'm
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> easily entertained. Looking forward to a great summer, but
>>>>>>> considering
>>>>>>> chucking the motor altogether.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BenCittadino
>>>>>>> Highlands, NJ
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>>>>>> +1.206.234.3977
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