[Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
elle
watermusic38 at yahoo.com
Thu Jun 18 21:06:26 EDT 2009
Ben,I meant quick as 'git in & git out' before they can catch us.....!
good luck & fair winds in your transport...a Hans christian is a lovely boat.
elle
Beer is good....people are crazy
1992 Rhodes 22 Recycled '06"Watermusic" {Lady in Red}
--- On Thu, 6/18/09, BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com> wrote:
From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 1:32 PM
Elle;
Your enthusiasm is infectious (I mean that in a good way). Unfortunately,
"Quick" is not possible this summer. I have a number of committments that
will keep my sailing adventures to a few hours here and there 'til a least
Sept. Maybe someday though.
One thing I'm committed to is a fun one. I will help crew a friend's Hans
Christian Ketch from Annapolis to Keyport here in NJ. I'll be the rookie
but maybe not so much by the time we get done.
Fair Winds;
BenCittadino
Lady in Red wrote:
>
> Ben,
> I am ON! ....(but we gotta be quick!)
> Get me a fearless pilot & we've got the shot!
> (Do you think they'll let us have our computers in Gitmo?)
>
> elle
>
> Beer is good....people are crazy
>
> 1992 Rhodes 22 Recycled '06"Watermusic" {Lady in Red}
>
> --- On Sun, 6/14/09, BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Date: Sunday, June 14, 2009, 4:53 PM
>
>
> Frone;
>
> Precisely 12 nautical miles from my slip to the Verrazano Narrows Bridge
> and
> 4.6 NM from there to Lady Liberty herself. Perhaps some day soon with a
> fearless crew...... (it is a bit crowded).
>
> We could even plan a "fly-by" with Elle to take a postcard shot of my
> rhodes
> with the Lady in the background. Can't get too close (security area) but
> pretty close. Can't get in any more trouble than Air Force One, right?
>
> Best,
>
> Ben
>
> FCrawford0707 wrote:
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>>
>> Ben - surely no offense about questioning my name - happens often, as
you
>> can imagine. ? And thanks for your location.? We have not been to that
>> part of the NJ shore, but it must be temptingly close to a trip to NY
>> Harbor.? Regards, Frone
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>> Sent: Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:58 am
>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
>>
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>> Frone;
>>
>> Thanks for the history on your boat and the name. Sorry I questioned your
>> given name; if I had checked the archives I would have seen that you are
>> in
>> fact Frone, and it was not a typo. I once got in a little trouble on this
>> very list in assuming a name to be male when it was female; I ought to
>> just
>> take people at their word.
>>
>> Anyway it sounds like you live near your boat, at least in the summer,
>> which
>> I envy. I live in Princeton year-round and the boat is an hour (or more)
>> away in Highlands. The Marina is Sandy Hook Bay Marina, slip B-43. An LBI
>> sail does sound doable someday. Let's let that percolate.
>>
>> Please let me know if you ever plan to be up this way.
>>
>> BenCittadino
>>
>>
>>
>> FCrawford0707 wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Ben - We purchased Sunday Morning from GB in '94 and spent a lot of
time
>>> chewing over possible names.? (I'm a bird-watcher, so I ran a bunch of
>>> such names up the flagpole ( Osprey, Willet, etc. ) but Andy, my wife,?
>>> wasn't sold.)? We chose Sunday Morning in the end primarily because we
>>> thought it sounded pretty nice out loud - who can account for taste
>>> ?!!??
>>> I see that you are a North Jersey guy - I have from time to time thought
>>> that the NJ Rhodies should work on a Chessie - style rendezvous - maybe
>>> somewhere along LBI, as it is roughly in the middle ( we are in Avalon
>>> and
>>> we sometimes cross paths with a Rhodie from Sea Isle and another from
>>> Stone Harbor - don't know who they are, tho').? Maybe Jay can entice us
>>> to
>>> LBI sometime.?
>>> ?????? Frone (not a typo) Crawford
>>> ?????? s/v Sunday Morning
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BenCittadino <bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>> Sent: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 10:19 am
>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
>>>
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>>>
>>> Thanks Folks;
>>>
>>> I actually think the engine may be flopping around too much back there.
>>> We'll see. Art came up with an idea that I think may help with the
>>> stalling
>>> out issue. The gas cap/vent may be plugged/too tight causing a vacuum to
>>> build up in the tank. I like that explanation as it fits the facts
>>> (smooth
>>> operation, stall, and easy restart), and is CHEAP to fix.
>>>
>>> Frone (is that right, or a typo?) I like your boat name. Is that "Sunday
>>> Morning" as in "Easy like a...", or as in Charles Osgood (my wife works
>>> for
>>> CBS), or something else?
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ron Singerman-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ben,
>>>>
>>>> After you get the cover repaired ( I second Dave's repair method) you
>>>> might
>>>> want to make sure that the tension adjustment for the movement of the
>>>> motor
>>>> is not to tight. It sounds like this might have been the culprit. I
>>>> also
>>>> agree that the only time I use my tiller to motor hook-up is when I am
>>>> backing out of my slip and exiting the marina and when returning, in
>>>> the
>>>> marina.
>>>>
>>>> Fair winds,
>>>>
>>>>>>ron<<
>>>> S/V Serenity
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David Bradley" <dwbrad at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "The Rhodes 22 Email List" <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 10:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] yamaha 9.9 trouble
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ben, unless it's a major crack, I would think it's easier to repair
>>>> the cover (assuming yours is fiberglass like mine) than to buy a new
>>>> cover and mount the bracket for the steering mechanism. I would epoxy
>>>> it from inside, taping the outside to be sure the epoxy doesn't leak
>>>> through. If it's a major crack you could reinforce it with fiberglass
>>>> cloth inside. All available at West Marine or another marine supply
>>>> place, along with free advice on which materials to buy. Others on
>>>> the list can be more prescriptive, I'm sure.
>>>>
>>>> While you're messing with the steering attahment, be sure all the nuts
>>>> and bolts are secure. My mechanishm fell apart one day at a crucial
>>>> moment just from a nut working its way loose. It wasn't pretty.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck,
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:27 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks John and Dave for the really quick and eminently sensible
>>>>> replies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave, I'm afraid the answer to your question is that the cover is
>>>>> cracked
>>>>> and I should probably replace (can I?) or repair (dare I?) it. I'm
>>>>> concerned
>>>>> about whether I can relocate the little attachment "dohicky" on top of
>>>>> a
>>>>> new
>>>>> cover for the bar connecting the tiller to the engine, but also don't
>>>>> know
>>>>> if a repair of the cover is even possible. I like your idea of only
>>>>> using
>>>>> the connection for really tight quarters. If I ever get it fixed
>>>>> that's
>>>>> what
>>>>> I'll do.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> David Bradley wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ben, it sounds like a similar problem I had my first year with my
>>>>>> Yamaha 9.9. I finally had to bite the bullet and have a good mechanic
>>>>>> clean the jets. You might luck out by using fresh gas (one mechanic
>>>>>> told me this year that with the new ethanol mix we should use fresh
>>>>>> gas every week) and just running the motor until the clean gas
>>>>>> dissolves the crud.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I only use the tiller-motor linkage in the marina for tight turns and
>>>>>> damage avoidance. The boat steers much easier with the motor locked -
>>>>>> much less strain on everything.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you saying your engine case has actually cracked, or you're
>>>>>> worried it might?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:36 PM, BenCittadino<bencittadino at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So the S/V Susan Kay (93R-recycled08) is in the water for the next 4
>>>>>>> months
>>>>>>> after a winter in a cradle. She started right up and ran
>>>>>>> magnificently
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> about a half an hour as we motored the few miles out the Shrewsbury
>>>>>>> River
>>>>>>> (NJ) around to Sandy Hook Bay where she has a slip. However, as we
>>>>>>> cruised
>>>>>>> along at medium to low power (fog & rain) the four stroke 9.9 Yamaha
>>>>>>> began
>>>>>>> to die, fought alittle to keep running and quit. Attempt to restart
>>>>>>> (electrical) immediately succeeded, and she ran beautifully for ten
>>>>>>> minutes
>>>>>>> then sputtered and quit again. She restarted on the first push of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> button, but died once more before we got her safely tied up in her
>>>>>>> slip.
>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>> at a loss except to say the gas was from last summer with plenty of
>>>>>>> Stay-bil. The engine had an oil change and was prepped by the marina
>>>>>>> where I
>>>>>>> stored her over the winter. They weren't worried about the gas (I
>>>>>>> asked).
>>>>>>> Why would she start like a champ, purr like a kitten, then sputter
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> die
>>>>>>> only to restart immediately?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm also becoming concerned about the engine cover cracking some as
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> appears the attachment to the tiller is stressing the cover (I'm
>>>>>>> trying
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> be gentle). I'm considering locking the engine along the centerline
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> steering with the rudder alone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As a rookie sailor I must say I get a small charge out of the bridge
>>>>>>> tender
>>>>>>> answering my call on channel 13 by calling me "Captain", but I'm
>>>>>>> told
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> easily entertained. Looking forward to a great summer, but
>>>>>>> considering
>>>>>>> chucking the motor altogether.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BenCittadino
>>>>>>> Highlands, NJ
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>>>>>> +1.206.234.3977
>>>>>> dwbrad at gmail.com
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