[Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent
Arthur H. Czerwonky
czerwonky at earthlink.net
Sun Jun 28 13:45:18 EDT 2009
Rick,
Maybe a reasonable question would be - Why would a prudent skipper want to anchor the boat in the conditions you describe? I wouldn't choose to get out or stay out if I could potentially have this situation. For certain, one of my base requirements for being out is having enough motor reserve to make headway. I understand that conditions along the Maine coast, given a rocky shoreline and periodic serious storm conditions, can be treacherous and I'd be mighty careful about where and when I'd even go out.
That said, I anchor out of the cockpit, choose conditions in which I can get the anchor to hold, and therefore have no potential contending with a five foot sea standing on the foredeck, trying to deploy the anchor and, wouldn't you know, the rode gets fouled. Instead I am in the cockpit, near motor and rudder controls, drop the anchor over the side, and pull the rode forward using a line strung through the bow cleat. I feel safer and more in control this way.
I do not use the anchor locker for another reason already brought up, the foul odor from the rode. My wife wouldn't find a pleasure in sleeping on the boat with such heavy air, nor would I, and, I like others, want to overnight with her whenever possible
Art
-----Original Message-----
>From: Rick <sloopblueheron at gmail.com>
>Sent: Jun 28, 2009 10:38 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Cowl Vent
>
>Jerry,
>
>That sounds fine for a peaceful inlet. But how would that work when the
>motor is almost full out trying to keep the boat into the wind which, along
>with five foot waves, is pushing you toward the rocks while you and any crew
>have turned green?
>
>Rick
>
>On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:14 AM, <cjlowe at sssnet.com> wrote:
>
>> I like to keep my fortress anchor under the starboard seat in a rubbermaid
>> container and deploy it off the starboard side,let out all but 20 feet of
>> the scope I want out. Then I cleat it and power down on it,let off,and
>> then uncleat it , walk the small coil of rode left,around the outside of
>> the shrouds to the bow,and cleat it off.
>>
>> Jerry Lowe
>>
>>
>>
>> Attached is the best picture I could find that shows how I drape the
>> > anchor
>> > chain. It doesn't make any noise and I prefer handy to classy looking.
>> >
>> > Rummy
>> >
>> > In a message dated 6/27/2009 1:54:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> > sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>> >
>> > OK Rummy, you caught me on one point. I do sometimes lug from the
>> > cockpit
>> > the" smelly rag" used to wipe down tackle that can't be cleaned by
>> > swishing
>> > it around in the water. And if admiral complaints of smell from the
>> > anchor
>> > locker seem likely, I just stuff in a sheet of Bounce (that's not in the
>> > admiral, but in the locker.)
>> >
>> > I've been on a boat that has the anchor chain draped around the anchor.
>> > It
>> > is pretty noisy in the slightest waves and not the classy look I wish
>> to
>> > maintain. My cowl collar is removable and, as you can tell from the
>> > pictures, the vent frame has not been damaged by passing the chain in
>> and
>> > out. (Part of my classy look is to maintain sobriety when handling
>> > anchor
>> > tackle.)
>> >
>> > As for the venturi effect, I've found the scoop effect more effective.
>> > But
>> > whatever works best for you.
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:42 AM, <R22RumRunner at aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Gentleman,
>> >> Leave the chain attached to the anchor and drape it around it so it is
>> >> always handy. Pulling the chain out of the locker is unnecessary and
>> >> creates
>> >> wear and tear on the cowl collar. From a scientific standpoint, the
>> >> cowl
>> > is
>> >> designed to work best with it facing away from the wind direction. This
>> >> eliminates any water from entering and creates more ventilation. It's
>> >> all
>> >> based
>> >> on the venturi effect. Carrying a plastic basket from the cockpit to
>> >> the
>> >> bow and connecting it to the anchor chain is a lot less work than
>> > trying
>> >> to
>> >> pull and stuff crap through the cowl vent. All the water and mess from
>> > the
>> >> anchor line stays in the cockpit and not in the cabin. Many areas
>> >> don't
>> >> have nice sandy bottoms so the anchor line will start to smell just
>> >> like
>> >> the
>> >> bottom conditions. Your admiral will not appreciate that damp muddy
>> > flats
>> >> bottom crap smell being in her cabin.
>> >>
>> >> Rummy
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> In a message dated 6/26/2009 7:33:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> >> sloopblueheron at gmail.com writes:
>> >>
>> >> Lee,
>> >>
>> >> Yes, I use it to store and deploy the rode and chain through the hole.
>> > I
>> >> think taking the locker in and out would be worse than retrieving
>> >> tackle
>> >> from the cockpit.
>> >>
>> >> I disconnect the chain for storage. Since my hand just fits through
>> >> the
>> >> hole, and I'm afraid of breaking my wrist during a rock 'n roll, I use
>> >> a
>> >> messenger line tied to the cap to start pulling stuff out. I'm
>> > re-posting
>> >> pictures from a few months ago of how I do that. You can't see the
>> >> mono-filament messenger line very well, but it is tied to the big loop
>> > in
>> >> the rode.
>> >>
>> >> To dry out the locker, point the scoop into the wind when there is no
>> >> water
>> >> in the wind. I generally use a cap when there is no need to ventilate
>> > the
>> >> locker or v-berth. Also, if you want to ventilate the v-berth when
>> >> the
>> >> wind
>> >> is wet--no problem because the water will just collect in the locker
>> >> and
>> >> dry
>> >> out later.
>> >>
>> >> Rick
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, Leland <LKUHN at cnmc.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Rick,
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you use the anchor rode locker? If so, what technique do you use
>> > to
>> >> get
>> >> > the rode in and out of the locker. I'd prefer to use it as
>> >> designed
>> > if
>> >> > there's some easy way to do it. I even thought about taking the
>> > locker
>> >> in
>> >> > and out with each use but I didn't want to disconnect the anchor
>> >> from
>> >> the
>> >> > rode.
>> >> >
>> >> > I think someone on this list said that the vent scoop is designed to
>> >> face
>> >> > aft away from the wind. Mine has always faced forward. Should I
>> > turn
>> >> it
>> >> > around?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > Lee
>> >> > 1986 Rhodes22 At Ease
>> >> > Kent Island, MD
>> >> >
>> >> > Rick-139 wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Cowie,
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The cowl vent should swivel so you can turn it into the wind. Do
>> > you
>> >> > have
>> >> > > a
>> >> > > nylon screen covering the ring? If not, cutting one to fit will
>> >> tighten
>> >> > > the
>> >> > > vent plus keep out the bugs.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > The vent should ventilate a triangular anchor rode locker under
>> >> the
>> >> deck.
>> >> > > Replacing the cowl vent with a fixed fan would prevent you from
>> > using
>> >> the
>> >> > > locker. However, there are some people on the list who prefer to
>> > lug
>> >> > > their
>> >> > > anchor tackle from the cockpit. If you want to join them, the fan
>> >> vent
>> >> > > will
>> >> > > give you better day time ventilation in the the v-berth.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Rick
>> >> > >
>> >> > > On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:01 PM, cowie
>> >> <ccowie at cowieassociates.com>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I have a 3" cowl vent on the bow and like the functional quality
>> >> of
>> >> it
>> >> > >> but
>> >> > >> have a couple of questions.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> The cowl vent slips onto a plastic ring that slips into a deck
>> >> fitting.
>> >> > >> Looks like the plastic ring and cowl vent are removable and can
>> >> be
>> >> > >> replaced
>> >> > >> with a plastic cover that seals the deck opening while the deck
>> >> fitting
>> >> > >> remains in place. Recently the cowl vent has come loose from
>> >> the
>> >> > plastic
>> >> > >> ring. Is the cowl vent supposed to be able to turn around the
>> > plastic
>> >> > >> ring
>> >> > >> in order to face the prevailing wind or is the cowl vent supposed
>> > to
>> >> be
>> >> > >> glued to the plastic ring and the ring is supposed to turn in the
>> >> deck
>> >> > >> fitting? The cowl vento portion is so loose I worry it might go
>> >> > >> overboard.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I found Nicro makes a 3" solor day/night fan. Has anyone
>> >> installed
>> >> this
>> >> > >> and
>> >> > >> can it be easly replaced with the cowl vent? I like the idea of
>> >> being
>> >> > >> able
>> >> > >> to use both options but don't know if they are easily
>> > interchangable.
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> I also see that Nicro makes a standard 3" screen. Can this be
>> >> insterted
>> >> > >> while the cowl vent is in place?
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >> Thanks
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>
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