[Rhodes22-list] cross over stays

Wed May 27 11:47:17 EDT 2009

Art,
How's sailing!  Don't get me started!  Got so much other @#$#$ going on
the boat is still under tarp.  Hope to tackle this weekend if it ever
stops raining. - rob

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H.
Czerwonky
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:42 AM
To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cross over stays

Thanks, Rob.  I think the same for IMF, as they are threaded onto each
side of the mast with a 3/8' x 4" bolt, I believe.  How's sailing?
Art

-----Original Message-----
>From: "Lowe, Rob" <rlowe at vt.edu>
>Sent: May 27, 2009 8:42 AM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cross over stays
>
>Art,
>Don't recall if you were on the list when we discussed this previously.
>I had to replace my spreader brackets last year and bought them from
>Dwyer.  I have the standard mast and am not sure if the brackets are
the
>same for the IMF mast, but here is what I used.  Part DH 254-2 on this
>page. Some other useful parts also shown here. - rob
>
>http://www.dwyermast.com/items.asp?cat1ID=20&cat1Name=Masts&familyID=40
&
>familyName=DM-6+Mast
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
>[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Arthur H.
>Czerwonky
>Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:28 PM
>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List
>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cross over stays
>
>Andrew,
>
>I approached Stan about using aft lowers for raising the mast a few
>years ago but did not hear back.  The mast spreader bracket can become
>distorted over time with the forward pull of thy shrouds.  I considered
>replacing the brackets from Stan or Dwyer, but have not yet.  Since
that
>time the apparent new norm is use of a bail, mounted on thr mast and
>reachable with a connecting line with heavy duty hook on each end.
>
>Art
>
>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Andrew Collins <sailingvesselcarmen at gmail.com>
>>Sent: May 24, 2009 7:58 PM
>>To: The Rhodes 22 Email List <rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org>
>>Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cross over stays
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>I like Todd's advice. My mast raising crane took a walk a couple of
>weeks
>>ago, so I am going to try and raise my IMF mast tomorrow using the
>trailer
>>winch. I see no reason why using the aft lowers to raise (attached to
>the
>>winch) and having the forward lowers attached to the chain plates with
>8"
>>extensions would not work. This is SOP out the R22 manual. Now all I
>need is
>>a block to put on the bow pulpit rail. I attahced a pdf of the stuff i
>>pulled out of the archives a couple of years ago.
>>Anybody done this before?
>>
>>Andrew
>>sv Carmen
>>
>>On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 7:13 PM, Todd Tavares <sprocket80 at mail.com>
>wrote:
>>
>>> Gary,
>>>
>>>    I think maybe you are overthinking this a bit . If you have a
>standard
>>> mast, it cant weigh more than 50 or 60 lbs empty of sail and boom.
>But
>>> what I have done is attach eyelets to the side of the mast about 6'
>up
>>> from the base. You can attach lines from the eyes to the cabin top
>>> handrails even with the mast (MacGregor style "baby stays") similar
>to
>>> the method outlined in the mast raising instructions on the Rhodes
>owner
>>> page
>http://www.rhodes22.org/doclib/Rhodes22-1988-MastHoist-Raven.pdf.
>>>
>>>   If you want to go one step more, then instead of tying the lines
>off to
>>> the cabin top handrails, run them through a loop it the handrail,
>bring
>>> them foreward and tie them off right near the winch.  That way if
the
>>> mast leans when raising, just put pressure on the opposite line and
>hold
>>> the mast vertical.
>>>
>>> Todd T.
>>>
>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>  From: foredeckguy
>>>  To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
>>>  Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] cross over stays
>>>  Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 15:45:53 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Stan,
>>>  I am appealing to you for details about cross over stays, in
>>>  particular the
>>>  chain length and which side of the mast to cross the forward inner
>>>  stays.
>>>  This is a conventional mast using the the trailer winch thru a
>pulley
>>>  to
>>>  lift the mast but doing this short handed, keeping the mast
vertical
>>>  is
>>>  really important (and I don't want to guess and either loosing the
>>>  mast or
>>>  damaging stay. I saw your post from last year but no one responded
>on
>>>  da
>>>  list with details.
>>>  Thanks, and good Memorial Day
>>>  Gary s/v Coquina
>>>
>>>
>>>  foredeckguy wrote:
>>>  >
>>>  > My '79 Rhodes Continental has a conventional mast and is raised
>>>  with the
>>>  > boat on the trailer using the winch, extender pole and pulley to
>>>  lift the
>>>  > mast from the stern. I am usually short handed to launch and
>>>  retrieve.
>>>  > While searching the the archive saw a reference from Stan about
to
>>>  using
>>>  > cross over stays to stabilize the mast during raising. I have
been
>>>  all
>>>  > over the archive and can not find any additional info about cross
>>>  over
>>>  > stays. Gary
>>>  > s/v Coquina
>>>  > Snow Hill, MD (soon to be in the water at Public Landing, MD)
>>>  >
>>>  >
>>>  >
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