[Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift

Thu Nov 12 11:50:18 EST 2009

Bob,

The Telstar is one of my favorites.  It's one of the first places I
visit each boat show.  I just wish the cockpit was a little bit larger
and more comfortable.  Tough to beat a Rhodes in that category.

Lee

-----Original Message-----
From: rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org
[mailto:rhodes22-list-bounces at rhodes22.org] On Behalf Of Bob Keller
Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 8:49 PM
To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift

Caesar,

Since my name was invoked, I'll weigh in.  I still harbor some thoughts
of owning a bigger boat.  What is keeping me from that is not money - it
is practicality.  I think a larger boat would be great because you could
go on extended trips - weeks, months - and be very comfortable.  Sounds
great, but I can't get that much time off work to do that until I retire
so all a large boat would do for me is increase my cost of ownership and
tie me to my home waters.  With the R-22 I have a boat that I can go on
one-week trips almost anywhere I want to trailer it and be very
comfortable.  I say one week trips because we have determined that one
week is about the max for us to live on the boat.  After a week, we both
are ready to move ashore.  But for that week, the R-22 is very
comfortable, sails great and we can trailer it with ease.  We can take
it to South Florida for some great sailing trips that would otherwise be
impossible.

I have considered a larger trailerable boat but my conclusion after
looking at all of them is that they are either too difficult and too
large to trailer with ease, or they employ water ballast (which has some
potential issues), or both.  I've considered the MacGregor, the Seaward,
the Hunter Edge and the Telstar 28 Trimaran.  (The Telstar is a pretty
awesome boat, but it is large and heavy.)  These each have their good
points, but they are all much larger and much heavier than the Rhodes
and bring with them many complications with trailering them.  I've got
my trailering with my R-22 down pretty well and it is a simple process
(after 8 years of practice).  These others would be multiple degrees of
complications by comparison.

I would also love to have a larger boat, but again if you don't have
months off work and a willing partner to take months-long trips, it will
probably just sit at the dock.  After I am retired I might get a 35'
Beneteau or Pacific Seacraft or something similar but then again maybe
not.  The cost of ownership would be 3-4 times what I have now, but I
could go off on voyages for months at a time.  Not sure yet but will
have to see when the time comes.  If my wife does not want to go off for
months at a time on sailboat trips then I'll just stay with the R-22. 

Right now I put my sailboat in the water from Oct-Dec and then again
from March-June and in the summer use a powerboat (too hot to sail in
the summer in S. Georgia) for trips to the beach.  If I had a larger
boat I would be paying dockage year-round plus annual bottom jobs.

Last point is regarding the motor - I took Rummy's advice and bought an
8 hp Tohatsu - 2 stroke, electric start with an alternator.  Only weighs
50-something lbs.  The motor is extremely reliable as it starts every
time.  It's loud and uses more fuel but it is dependable.  With 6 gallon
fuel tanks, I can motor for 8 hours on a tank and usually have two tanks
on board.  Not an issue even when I have to motor a lot on occasion.
Also the coast of GA has very strong currents and 8-9 foot tides so it
is a challenge to handle this with a small OB motor.  The 8hp does a
pretty good job with this - I don't believe that a 9.9hp would be any
better at all so this motor is a great choice for this boat.

And that's all I have to say about that...

Bob K

> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2009 16:19:04 -0500
> From: czerwonky at earthlink.net
> To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift
> 
> Caesar,
> 
> Totally agree with Rummy. This boat is a dream to sail and maintain -
it also has alot of additional capability with dollars and effort. You
have the perfect option for best 'real' sailing, even pocket cruising
experience. Ask Bob Keller sometime.
> 
> Art
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: R22RumRunner at aol.com
> >Sent: Nov 11, 2009 11:53 AM
> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift
> >
> >Caesar,
> >Beware of the bigger boat envy. I know many people that have been on
the 
> >list that made the move to bigger boats. Many came back to the Rhodes
and the 
> > others wish they could. Sail with friends if they have bigger boats,
but I 
> > like to single hand whenever possible. Bigger boats require crew and
then 
> > you are stuck sailing on their schedules or not sailing at all.
That's why 
> >you see many bigger boats that stay tied up at the dock year after
year 
> >and never go out.
> > 
> >Rummy
> > 
> > 
> >In a message dated 11/10/2009 5:22:46 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> >caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> >Thanks Rummy.
> >For two more horsepower than you, I'm carrying approximately 50 more
lbs 
> >with electric start. Hmm.
> >
> >My sailing skill and practice presently does not allow me to
recognize the 
> >difference that extra weight makes. Once the boat is moving because
of 
> >the wind I'm happy. If and when I start racing however, it may. 
> >
> >I hope by the time I"m ready for a new motor, I'm also ready for a
much 
> >bigger boat.
> >
> >Caesar
> >Gentle Breeze
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: "R22RumRunner at aol.com" <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> >
> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 1:40:00 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift
> >
> >Caesar,
> >The motor is a 8 BHP Tohatsu, 2 stroke without electric start. It's
easy 
> >to 
> >start with just half of a pull. It's slightly louder than a four
stroke 
> >and burns a little more gas, but I love it. Two thirds throttle will
bring 
> >the boat to hull speed around 6 mph. I have never been at a lack for 
> >power, 
> >even in high winds and heavy waves.
> >
> >Rummy
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 11/9/2009 3:48:09 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> >caesarpaul01 at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> >Rummy,
> >
> >48 lbs! What's the horsepower of that motor, and how well does it
move 
> >Rum Runner? On a lake you don't have current to deal with, but at 48
lbs 
> >you 
> >are making us with 100 lbs plus motor think we are carrying excess
wait 
> >and horsepower.
> >
> >Caesar
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: "R22RumRunner at aol.com" <R22RumRunner at aol.com>
> >To: rhodes22-list at rhodes22.org
> >Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 10:05:01 AM
> >Subject: Re: [Rhodes22-list] Now electric motor lift
> >
> >Lee,
> >>From the photos I don't see anything that looks unusual. You may
have 
> >found 
> >the answer yourself. An electric winch motor draws a lot of amperage.

> >Your 
> >battery needs to be fully charged and fresh for it to provide
sufficient 
> >power to operate the lift. I don't see that 135 lbs would be to much 
> >weight 
> >for the lift motor, but then my Tohatsu weighs in at a hefty 48
pounds. 
> >Try 
> >spraying a little WD40 on the underside of the lift belt.
> >
> >Rummy
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 11/9/2009 10:38:49 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
> >LKUHN at cnmc.org writes:
> >
> >http://old.nabble.com/file/p26268434/At%2BEase%2B10-5-09%2B020.jpg
> >
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